Jamie, last thread you said: “the Bernie Bros and Warren Crowd are being so viscious to anyone who supports anyone else, that they are turning off groups of voters.”
I understand the bern bros charge, but am unaware that the “warren crowd” have been committing the same sins. what have they been doing that has turned you so far off? anything said here on the trail that was viscious (other than what’s said about you-know-who of course)?
that charge against lizzie brings back unhappy memories of when fearless leader said the same kind of thing against Hillary’s supporters.
The attacks have come from basically the same crowd and they aren’t doing their chosen candidate any good. I sometimes refer to them as the Purity Police. Anyone suggesting even a hint of alteration in the Medicare For All plan, moderation or cooperation to get things done on any issue should probably not mention it unless they are dressed in fire retardant overalls.
Warren herself has remained positive other than a couple of quips and I would still vote for her in a heart beat, but if anyone else goes into the convention than their beloved, they can expect the identical demonstrations and threats of 3rd party defection
not that she is one of those offending staffers Jamie was referring to, but this is an example of warren hiring on Clinton campaign people:
A Columbia native who led Hillary Clinton’s S.C. campaign during the 2016 election now is working on another national Democrat’s 2020 campaign in the Palmetto State.
Alycia Albergottie has been hired as the state director for U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s run in the first-in-the-South primary, the Warren campaign announced on Monday.
Albergottie was named Clinton’s S.C. director in the run-up to the 2016 general election. She also worked on President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign here.
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New Gallup Poll on Trump: Approve his job performance? 39% yes, 57% no Want Congress to impeach/remove Trump from office? 52% yes, 46% no
too bad lizzie and pete aren’t more precise or clearer in their arguments with each other over taxes going/not going up due to medicare for all plan. sure taxes (if one considers socsec medicare fee charged a tax) will go up, but not as much as the average individual pays now for basic health insurance which will be eliminated.
The Nationals are going to the World Series — and a city’s baseball scars have healed
Screech, the mascot.
[from the way DC works, a gnat as a mascot would have been more representative]
this just might be helpful to the rest of the dem candidates
NPR: Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar To Endorse Bernie Sanders For President
Everyone knows I bleed Dodger Blue, but of the newer teams, The Nats are my second choice. This is going to be a great World Series.
Had a band once in the 70’s called the Gnasty Gnats……course later it was just referred to as the Gnats
Watched most of the candidate interviews after, in some ways more interesting than the debate itself. The panel tried every way imaginable to get Warren to say she’d raise taxes for Medicare, but she is obviously not going to hand over that clip to Trump ad makers.
“There were 12 candidates onstage — an all-time record, which is a little weird. I mean, candidates aren’t supposed to multiply as the debates go on. So, please, America, remember to have your candidate spayed or neutered! We can’t handle any more.” — TREVOR NOAH
“Why are there 12 candidates? In the last debate, there were 10. You can’t subtract candidates and then add some back. Have you ever watched a reality show or sports? You don’t go to the Final Four, then suddenly you’re back to the Elite Eight. It’s not the way it works!” — JIMMY KIMMEL
“If you ask me, I think the Democratic Party is just too nice. That’s how this happened. Like, the G.O.P. would never do this. They’re literally canceling entire primaries right now to lock out other candidates. Meanwhile, the Democrats are like a nightclub on a Tuesday: everyone gets in. It’s just like, you know, yeah, it’s just like: ‘Six guys in sandals? Come on in!’” — TREVOR NOAH
“Amy Klobuchar is still — she’s eight laps behind and stopped to have lunch, she’s still in the race!” — JIMMY KIMMEL
“And what’s especially difficult is that most of these candidates won’t even become president, so they’re abandoning their families for nothing. That’s got to be a hard talk to have with your kids. Just like: ‘Hey, buddy — of course, Daddy wants to see you grow up, but he’s got to spend the next two years interrupting people in diners, you know, and — and kissing other people’s kids.’” — TREVOR NOAH
The Punchiest Punchlines (Cheesecake Factory Edition)
“It’s like the menu at the Cheesecake Factory — there’s too much to choose from. Let’s go through the Cheesecake Factory menu and the candidates. Joe Biden is the old-fashioned burger. Elizabeth Warren is the super antioxidant salad, because it seems kind of good, but also like it’s trying a little bit too hard. Bernie is the chicken salad sandwich, all over your chin. Mayor Pete is the children’s brunch. Beto O’Rourke and Andrew Yang are the roadside sliders — they’re always falling off their skateboards. Cory Booker is shrimp with angel hair, hold the angel hair. Amy Klobuchar — Amy Klobuchar is Renee’s special, because nobody knows who Renee is either. Tulsi Gabbard is the luau salad — Hawaiian and mostly nuts. Kamala Harris, avocado toast — from California, and toast. Julián Castro is the Baja chicken tacos. Because he’s mildly spicy, and he’s a twin so you get two. And Tom Steyer is the Impossible burger, because those are his chances of winning. And they’re all trying to defeat the world-famous pumpkin cheesecake.” — JIMMY KIMMEL
The panel tried every way imaginable to get Warren to say she’d raise taxes for Medicare, but she is obviously not going to hand over that clip to Trump ad makers.
Craig…. exactly!
I grew tired of this debate after 2 hours… turned on some local stuff and then went to bed. Too many people on the stage… don’t think I’ll bother watching another until it whittles down to 6 or less. From what I did see…good night for Klobuchar (but will it affect her poll #s). Bad night for Biden (he really sounds old and confused). Attacking Warren might have been a strategy for some… but the moderators let her answer every attack and she got the bulk of the debate time.
And as someone who soundly criticized CNN in their last debate…. I want to laud them for obviously learning their lesson. They did a very good job last night, IMO.
I agree with craig & renee about best that lizzie avoided being GOPer ad fodder; however, don’t be surprised that those attacks won’t end up as cameos in said ads endlessly spouting their question followed by dumb photo of whatever dem candidate is the object d jour.
[dem campaign ad, jazzed up “whistle while you work” playing in background]
Warren-Klobuchar
WorKed their whole life and know what WorK is.
WorKs for you.
WorKing for America.
PatD
Warren/Klobuchar or Harris/Klobuchar would be dream tickets for me, but I doubt a two woman ticket even if we have had two men tickets for centuries.
One nice thing about Twitter this year compared to 2016 is that I’m getting fewer direct attacks from the terminally stupid. I think the word is out that I bite back complete with history lessons and grammar corrections. I only have to read them while resisting the urge to turn them into lunch.
patd… I disagree with your comment under that cartoon. Warren is now the perceived frontrunner. Just like they did to Biden, she is being attacked as such. If anyone thinks she isn’t suppose to be attacked because she’s female… that is the definition of special treatment based on her gender.
Besides… Rick and I were talking about the wry little smiles she gave every time someone tried to punch her. She seemed to be enjoying the fight.
🙂
Not since Hubert Humphrey have we seen a Happy Warrior like Warren.
Wow Biden spent 2 million dollars more than he raised last quarter. Not a good sign – – Guardian
Too bad the Founders didn’t add “incompetence” to the articles of impeachment.
WAPO’s Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) tweeted at 11:20 AM:
“It’s not our problem,” Trump says in Oval Office of Turkey’s invasion into Syria. He adds that the Kurds are “not angels.” Also, he says this: “They’ve got a lot of sand over there…. There’s a lot of sand they can play with.”
A lot of sand to play with …based on tht alone he should be run out of office
O I see Bob Corker has crawled out from under a rock to mildly rebuke SFB…
Once again I missed the event, and the Nationals winning. But, waking up at two am allowed me to review the reviews early so I could get on with other things in life. From what I read the Dems are back to self-destructing on several paths. Next time maybe someone with brass gonads is going to say there is the big kids debate (a real debate (at least a pretend debate)) and the rest are sent packing. The big kids should not include the non-Dem.
Jamie – I don’t get the same all-or-nothing feeling as in the last election when looking at Bernie or Warren.
That said, Amy is trying to pull hard to the middle and she would probably have the toughest time within the party.
I would almost swear that half of the state of California has moved to North TX this year. I think many counties will be true blue, some merely purple.
The point about only having a public option is just this: Will folks be able to afford it? Will there actually be enough providers to help folks? If employers see this as a way out of paying for a healthcare benefit, will single payer implode under the weight of those high numbers it has to cover?
Why are insurance companies allowed to price gouge enrollees every year? My plan year started October 1st. My premiums went up, my deductible went up. My company is small and is pooled with other companies, so the fact that we have a healthy group of folks in this office, well, are others in the pool really costing that much or is this just a money-grab for the insurance company?
I don’t mind paying taxes if I get a tangible benefit. However, I also wonder if YANG was into something when he mentioned VAT to force Amazon, FB, etc., to kick in more? Might Warren work that idea into her plan???
SFB disgusting as usual can’t get off his Obama obsession Michele Obama should run she would kick his butt
I don’t know what this means but I think Mr C is pretty representative of the far left of the Democratic party
He is really still is a Bernie guy but lately has been leaning to Elizabeth Warren. Today he announced his current preference is AMY
Craig
“Maladministration” was one of the considered charges in the Federalist Papers. It’s a shame they didn’t keep that one.
In Federalist 65, Hamilton made an extended argument for the states to ratify a Constitution with an Impeachment Clause. The Founders and some of Hamilton’s audience were familiar with the concept from English law and several state constitutions had impeachment provisions for “maladministration,” a term Madison objected to and which caused Mason to add “high crimes and misdemeanors” to the clause as its replacement.
BiD
Those premiums went up because the GOP deleted the mandate and the Supremes held that the mandate was a tax. Since everyone isn’t in the pool, the costs aren’t reduced. This is why Universal Healthcare in other developed nations have some sort of mandate and a combination of public/private insurance in order to get everyone covered.
When people hear “Medicare For All”, they think it is free. People on Medicare even after years of contributions still have payments from their Social Security plus co-pays.
Biden, Warren, and Sanders still leaders. The Senior Citizen community doing well.
Klobuchar and Mayor Pete got major bumps
Sanders still high numbers but barely any movement
I like Mayor Pete less and less. He is very bratty
Popcorn Overdose !
I’m ready for the gawddamm Minnesota Primary. Let’s get ‘er dun an go home.
Oh, my por tummy . . . .
I’m with you on Mayor Pete, Ms Cracker. He’s the circular firing squad Mr Jack writes about. gabbard’s in on the assassinations, too.
Tulsi ugh cult member
Latest poll averages at RCP after poll releases this week and last have Biden (29.4) 6 points ahead of Warren (23.4) and Bernie! 8 points behind her at (15.4). Be interesting to see what the “debate” does to those numbers.
Although there were a few moments that were worth watching, the Dem debate format needs to be changed. It doesn’t much lend itself to putting much info about each candidate out there, and some get extremely short shrift. Asking a question about a complex topic and giving the candidate only a minute or two to try and answer it on the fly is simply stupid.
WASHINGTON — The House on Wednesday delivered a bipartisan condemnation of President Trump’s decision to withdraw American forces just inside Syria’s border, registering broad opposition in Congress to a move that has thrown the region into bloody chaos and unraveled Middle East policy.
Republicans and Democrats banded together toapprove a resolution opposing Mr. Trump’s acquiescence to the Turkish assault against the Kurds, who have been crucial American allies in the fight against ISIS. The measure passed, 354-60, not long before a bipartisan group of congressional leaders was slated to meet with Mr. Trump to discuss the incursion, and hours before Vice President Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state, were to travel to Ankara to call for a cease-fire in a battle the president appears to have greenlit.
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If that Trump Press conference is any indication, SFB is one of two things
Traitorous Psychotic or Psychotic Traitor.
Apparently the folks in Turkey don’t want to talk to either Mike but are happy to host Vlad
Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway and a frequent critic of the president, did not mince his words Wednesday afternoon, calling Trump a “sociopath” and a “con man.”
“He lies because he’s a sociopath, a con man—to deceive others,” George Conway tweeted.
“But he also lies because he’s a pathological narcissist—to deceive himself, to protect his fragile ego from narcissistic injury,” he added.
The post was part of a series of tweets that Conway made concerning the president. Several of his subsequent tweets played on his “sociopath” comment.
Trump, Conway asserted, “isn’t up to the task” of being president and “acts incompetently, and irrationally.”
In another tweet, Conway brought up Trump’s press conference with Finnish President Sauli Niinistö earlier this month, describing it as a “meltdown.”
This isn’t the first time Conway has attacked the president’s mental health.
According to Federal Election Commission filings, Conway donated $5,600 to GOP primary long shot former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) on Aug. 30.
Conway is informally advising Walsh’s campaign.
Have Biden, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg and (ugh)Bernie! ‘debate’. Give the rest an eight year rest.
Instead of a fakebate, try having the candidates chat or demonstrate for about three hours on how to mow a lawn or grow a tomato, scrub a pan or wash a window, take a math or a history test, teach a dog to do a trick or teach a parrot to talk, fill in the income tax or hospital bill forms. unReality tv ! Then the eventual winner can claim that he/she had a higher rating than that boring old loser, trump. “In fact, all five of us had a higher rating than you did, loser ! You’re FIRED !”
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putin wins the Middle East !
trump ignores the advice of his fellow rapers, his Mid East advisors, and even his only friend in the region, bribey netanyahu. That should show netty and muhammed who trump’s REAL friend is.
bribe so perfect
White House (@WhiteHouse) tweeted at 1:55 PM on Wed, Oct 16, 2019:
President @realDonaldTrump just wrapped up a joint press conference with President Mattarella of Italy.
“The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome.” 🇺🇸🇮🇹 https://t.co/10Ib2h4O4e
Yep Ancient Rome and American Indians were great allies
Poobah, I almost pissed myself over that one. I guess the Romans helped American Indians build the well known American aqueducts.
…and hours before Vice President Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state, were to travel to Ankara to call for a cease-fire in a battle the president appears to have greenlit.
Turkey rebuffed U.S. calls for a cease-fire in northeastern Syria as it pressed ahead Wednesday with an offensive targeting Syrian Kurdish militants and demanded that the fighters lay down their arms.
What a president we have. Master of negotiation. (aka Dumbass).
Startled Italian interpreter looks up from her notes when Trump says Kurds are safe because “they’ve got a lot of sand to play with.”
At their first meeting since the impeachment inquiry began, President Trump called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) a “third-rate politician,” Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday.
Trump had also lashed out at Pelosi earlier Wednesday, saying she has “done this country a tremendous disservice.”
The president’s comments came as Trump’s Republican allies escalated their attacks on the proceedings — accusing Democrats of “Soviet-style tactics” — as another witness testified behind closed doors on Capitol Hill.
He thinks this kind of idiocy turns out better for him exactly how?
Like trump, nero thought he was a great singer : “mi, mi, mi, mi, mi.”
Both could belt out a whiney, O, Solo Mio.
Sand : It’s the secret to all of Field Marshal Bone Spurs’ greatest victories.
Sand, lime, water, and the building inspector’s feet.
This has been a most depressing week; I sure am glad today is Friday. Semicolon personally approved by F.O.
Poobah, while that was one of the childish things he said, there was this:
President Trump has often said things he perhaps shouldn’t have and has repeatedly disclosed sensitive information. On Wednesday, he did so again, appearing to confirm the United States has nuclear weapons in Turkey.
Trump was asked about the security of those weapons, now that Turkey has gone against U.S. wishes by invading northern Syria after Trump ordered a withdrawal of U.S. troops from the region. He didn’t explicitly confirm the weapons were there, but he went along with the premise, saying “we’re confident” they’ll be safe “and we have a great air base there — a very powerful air base.”
Wharton was it? Jesus H. Christ.
O, Solo Mio – is that an American Indian tribal song? Cherokee, perhaps?
Trump is so out of his league, but we knew that. This letter is nuts.
Musta been Jasper Wartin’s School for Mental and Moral Defectives
Jamie – They’ve gone up every year since ACA came on the scene. That’s also when they started barricading benefits like physical therapy behind the deductible. Basically, you have to have surgery and meet the deductible before you can have physical therapy. I suppose I should be happy it wasn’t more of an increase…but of course, the deductible is higher so..
That’s one fucking dipsomatic letter. No wonder even his best friends want to scoop out his liver with their bare hands, and give him a dynamite suppository.
Uh, wuzzat word diplonasty ?
Bid
I have no way of knowing what the TX options are like. Here is WA there are some amazing plans.
I think Donny just told Er-doggone the Romper Room Rule: Do be a doo-bee. Don’t be a don’t-bee.
If the Repugz had any sense or balls, they would admit Trump has got to go.
FL has the same kind of problems, from what I’ve heard.
Sounds like SFB is getting close to the edge of whatever reality he is living in. And, it is not good for the world. We have to rely on many in the Pentagon who have taken their oath of duty seriously; “against all enemies, foreign and domestic”.
So, who is Field Marshal Bone Spurs going to nuke ? Massachusetts ? The Big Rez ? Acapulco ?
Flatus, what are the rules for disobeying a commanding officer’s illegal commands? Might be pertinent going forward. Because his next whim of an order to the military might be worse.
I believe the burden is on the person receiving the illegal order to disobey it at his/her own peril.
Craig
Flatus is correct. My son had to do it once. He was right so positive outcome. But if a serviceman or woman to do it, they better be sure of the law involved and/or there are other lives to consider.
The adult in the room!
My conflict simulation suggests that the object of the trump Syria Fiasco is to muck things up until Turks and Yanks shoot each. Then Turkey, with the 2d largest army in Europe, leaves NATO for putin’s Neo-Soviet Block. The Saudis, the ayatollah and the Israelis shiver in the shadow of the ascendant Kremlin. So do the Baltic States, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Rumania and Finland.
putin’s decapitation of the US government is the most spectacular black ops coup of all times. Lecarre’s baddies never contemplated anything so audacious. hitler’s takeovers of Austria, Czechoslovakia and Norway don’t even compare. Only the Hapsburgs’ takeover by marriage of Spain, Portugal, and their empires in the Americas and the East Indies can compare to putin’s victory over the USA.
Christians have to wonder if trump is the Beast and putin is the anti-Christ of the Apocalypse. Not being a Christian, I’m not quite an authority on the matter.
X=R, your 1:20 in the wee hours nailed it. the putie plan personified in prez SFB.
Jamie, last thread you said: “the Bernie Bros and Warren Crowd are being so viscious to anyone who supports anyone else, that they are turning off groups of voters.”
I understand the bern bros charge, but am unaware that the “warren crowd” have been committing the same sins. what have they been doing that has turned you so far off? anything said here on the trail that was viscious (other than what’s said about you-know-who of course)?
that charge against lizzie brings back unhappy memories of when fearless leader said the same kind of thing against Hillary’s supporters.
the guardian’s take on the debate:
Warren under attack as Democrats spar in largest primary debate in US history
When Doctors without Borders pulls out – that’s when you know things have gotten REALLY bad.
Northeastern Syria: MSF Forces Evacuate
Patd
The attacks have come from basically the same crowd and they aren’t doing their chosen candidate any good. I sometimes refer to them as the Purity Police. Anyone suggesting even a hint of alteration in the Medicare For All plan, moderation or cooperation to get things done on any issue should probably not mention it unless they are dressed in fire retardant overalls.
Warren herself has remained positive other than a couple of quips and I would still vote for her in a heart beat, but if anyone else goes into the convention than their beloved, they can expect the identical demonstrations and threats of 3rd party defection
not that she is one of those offending staffers Jamie was referring to, but this is an example of warren hiring on Clinton campaign people:
the state:
A Columbia native who led Hillary Clinton’s S.C. campaign during the 2016 election now is working on another national Democrat’s 2020 campaign in the Palmetto State.
Alycia Albergottie has been hired as the state director for U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s run in the first-in-the-South primary, the Warren campaign announced on Monday.
Albergottie was named Clinton’s S.C. director in the run-up to the 2016 general election. She also worked on President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign here.
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New Gallup Poll on Trump: Approve his job performance? 39% yes, 57% no Want Congress to impeach/remove Trump from office? 52% yes, 46% no
too bad lizzie and pete aren’t more precise or clearer in their arguments with each other over taxes going/not going up due to medicare for all plan. sure taxes (if one considers socsec medicare fee charged a tax) will go up, but not as much as the average individual pays now for basic health insurance which will be eliminated.
according to ehealth:
Premiums for individual coverage averaged $440 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $1,168 per month.
let’s hear it for the gnats!
wapo:
The Nationals are going to the World Series — and a city’s baseball scars have healed
Screech, the mascot.
[from the way DC works, a gnat as a mascot would have been more representative]
this just might be helpful to the rest of the dem candidates
NPR: Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar To Endorse Bernie Sanders For President
Everyone knows I bleed Dodger Blue, but of the newer teams, The Nats are my second choice. This is going to be a great World Series.
Had a band once in the 70’s called the Gnasty Gnats……course later it was just referred to as the Gnats
Watched most of the candidate interviews after, in some ways more interesting than the debate itself. The panel tried every way imaginable to get Warren to say she’d raise taxes for Medicare, but she is obviously not going to hand over that clip to Trump ad makers.
NYTimes best of late night:
“There were 12 candidates onstage — an all-time record, which is a little weird. I mean, candidates aren’t supposed to multiply as the debates go on. So, please, America, remember to have your candidate spayed or neutered! We can’t handle any more.” — TREVOR NOAH
“Why are there 12 candidates? In the last debate, there were 10. You can’t subtract candidates and then add some back. Have you ever watched a reality show or sports? You don’t go to the Final Four, then suddenly you’re back to the Elite Eight. It’s not the way it works!” — JIMMY KIMMEL
“If you ask me, I think the Democratic Party is just too nice. That’s how this happened. Like, the G.O.P. would never do this. They’re literally canceling entire primaries right now to lock out other candidates. Meanwhile, the Democrats are like a nightclub on a Tuesday: everyone gets in. It’s just like, you know, yeah, it’s just like: ‘Six guys in sandals? Come on in!’” — TREVOR NOAH
“Amy Klobuchar is still — she’s eight laps behind and stopped to have lunch, she’s still in the race!” — JIMMY KIMMEL
“And what’s especially difficult is that most of these candidates won’t even become president, so they’re abandoning their families for nothing. That’s got to be a hard talk to have with your kids. Just like: ‘Hey, buddy — of course, Daddy wants to see you grow up, but he’s got to spend the next two years interrupting people in diners, you know, and — and kissing other people’s kids.’” — TREVOR NOAH
The Punchiest Punchlines (Cheesecake Factory Edition)
“It’s like the menu at the Cheesecake Factory — there’s too much to choose from. Let’s go through the Cheesecake Factory menu and the candidates. Joe Biden is the old-fashioned burger. Elizabeth Warren is the super antioxidant salad, because it seems kind of good, but also like it’s trying a little bit too hard. Bernie is the chicken salad sandwich, all over your chin. Mayor Pete is the children’s brunch. Beto O’Rourke and Andrew Yang are the roadside sliders — they’re always falling off their skateboards. Cory Booker is shrimp with angel hair, hold the angel hair. Amy Klobuchar — Amy Klobuchar is Renee’s special, because nobody knows who Renee is either. Tulsi Gabbard is the luau salad — Hawaiian and mostly nuts. Kamala Harris, avocado toast — from California, and toast. Julián Castro is the Baja chicken tacos. Because he’s mildly spicy, and he’s a twin so you get two. And Tom Steyer is the Impossible burger, because those are his chances of winning. And they’re all trying to defeat the world-famous pumpkin cheesecake.” — JIMMY KIMMEL
The panel tried every way imaginable to get Warren to say she’d raise taxes for Medicare, but she is obviously not going to hand over that clip to Trump ad makers.
Craig…. exactly!
I grew tired of this debate after 2 hours… turned on some local stuff and then went to bed. Too many people on the stage… don’t think I’ll bother watching another until it whittles down to 6 or less. From what I did see…good night for Klobuchar (but will it affect her poll #s). Bad night for Biden (he really sounds old and confused). Attacking Warren might have been a strategy for some… but the moderators let her answer every attack and she got the bulk of the debate time.
And as someone who soundly criticized CNN in their last debate…. I want to laud them for obviously learning their lesson. They did a very good job last night, IMO.
I agree with craig & renee about best that lizzie avoided being GOPer ad fodder; however, don’t be surprised that those attacks won’t end up as cameos in said ads endlessly spouting their question followed by dumb photo of whatever dem candidate is the object d jour.
[dem campaign ad, jazzed up “whistle while you work” playing in background]
Warren-Klobuchar
WorKed their whole life and know what WorK is.
WorKs for you.
WorKing for America.
PatD
Warren/Klobuchar or Harris/Klobuchar would be dream tickets for me, but I doubt a two woman ticket even if we have had two men tickets for centuries.
One nice thing about Twitter this year compared to 2016 is that I’m getting fewer direct attacks from the terminally stupid. I think the word is out that I bite back complete with history lessons and grammar corrections. I only have to read them while resisting the urge to turn them into lunch.
patd… I disagree with your comment under that cartoon. Warren is now the perceived frontrunner. Just like they did to Biden, she is being attacked as such. If anyone thinks she isn’t suppose to be attacked because she’s female… that is the definition of special treatment based on her gender.
Besides… Rick and I were talking about the wry little smiles she gave every time someone tried to punch her. She seemed to be enjoying the fight.
🙂
Not since Hubert Humphrey have we seen a Happy Warrior like Warren.
Wow Biden spent 2 million dollars more than he raised last quarter. Not a good sign – – Guardian
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/16/sanders-warren-biden-fundraising-cash-2020-election?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
Happy Warrior v Jabba the Hutt.
Works for me.
Too bad the Founders didn’t add “incompetence” to the articles of impeachment.
WAPO’s Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) tweeted at 11:20 AM:
“It’s not our problem,” Trump says in Oval Office of Turkey’s invasion into Syria. He adds that the Kurds are “not angels.” Also, he says this: “They’ve got a lot of sand over there…. There’s a lot of sand they can play with.”
(https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1184489293315751938?s=02)
A lot of sand to play with …based on tht alone he should be run out of office
O I see Bob Corker has crawled out from under a rock to mildly rebuke SFB…
Once again I missed the event, and the Nationals winning. But, waking up at two am allowed me to review the reviews early so I could get on with other things in life. From what I read the Dems are back to self-destructing on several paths. Next time maybe someone with brass gonads is going to say there is the big kids debate (a real debate (at least a pretend debate)) and the rest are sent packing. The big kids should not include the non-Dem.
Jamie – I don’t get the same all-or-nothing feeling as in the last election when looking at Bernie or Warren.
That said, Amy is trying to pull hard to the middle and she would probably have the toughest time within the party.
I would almost swear that half of the state of California has moved to North TX this year. I think many counties will be true blue, some merely purple.
The point about only having a public option is just this: Will folks be able to afford it? Will there actually be enough providers to help folks? If employers see this as a way out of paying for a healthcare benefit, will single payer implode under the weight of those high numbers it has to cover?
Why are insurance companies allowed to price gouge enrollees every year? My plan year started October 1st. My premiums went up, my deductible went up. My company is small and is pooled with other companies, so the fact that we have a healthy group of folks in this office, well, are others in the pool really costing that much or is this just a money-grab for the insurance company?
I don’t mind paying taxes if I get a tangible benefit. However, I also wonder if YANG was into something when he mentioned VAT to force Amazon, FB, etc., to kick in more? Might Warren work that idea into her plan???
SFB disgusting as usual can’t get off his Obama obsession Michele Obama should run she would kick his butt
I don’t know what this means but I think Mr C is pretty representative of the far left of the Democratic party
He is really still is a Bernie guy but lately has been leaning to Elizabeth Warren. Today he announced his current preference is AMY
Craig
“Maladministration” was one of the considered charges in the Federalist Papers. It’s a shame they didn’t keep that one.
BiD
Those premiums went up because the GOP deleted the mandate and the Supremes held that the mandate was a tax. Since everyone isn’t in the pool, the costs aren’t reduced. This is why Universal Healthcare in other developed nations have some sort of mandate and a combination of public/private insurance in order to get everyone covered.
When people hear “Medicare For All”, they think it is free. People on Medicare even after years of contributions still have payments from their Social Security plus co-pays.
Out of the 33 developed countries, 32 have universal health care. They adopt one of the following three models.
Five Thirty Eight numbers on 4th debate are out.
Biden, Warren, and Sanders still leaders. The Senior Citizen community doing well.
Klobuchar and Mayor Pete got major bumps
Sanders still high numbers but barely any movement
I like Mayor Pete less and less. He is very bratty
Popcorn Overdose !
I’m ready for the gawddamm Minnesota Primary. Let’s get ‘er dun an go home.
Oh, my por tummy . . . .
I’m with you on Mayor Pete, Ms Cracker. He’s the circular firing squad Mr Jack writes about. gabbard’s in on the assassinations, too.
Tulsi ugh cult member
Latest poll averages at RCP after poll releases this week and last have Biden (29.4) 6 points ahead of Warren (23.4) and Bernie! 8 points behind her at (15.4). Be interesting to see what the “debate” does to those numbers.
Although there were a few moments that were worth watching, the Dem debate format needs to be changed. It doesn’t much lend itself to putting much info about each candidate out there, and some get extremely short shrift. Asking a question about a complex topic and giving the candidate only a minute or two to try and answer it on the fly is simply stupid.
NYTimes
WASHINGTON — The House on Wednesday delivered a bipartisan condemnation of President Trump’s decision to withdraw American forces just inside Syria’s border, registering broad opposition in Congress to a move that has thrown the region into bloody chaos and unraveled Middle East policy.
Republicans and Democrats banded together to approve a resolution opposing Mr. Trump’s acquiescence to the Turkish assault against the Kurds, who have been crucial American allies in the fight against ISIS. The measure passed, 354-60, not long before a bipartisan group of congressional leaders was slated to meet with Mr. Trump to discuss the incursion, and hours before Vice President Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state, were to travel to Ankara to call for a cease-fire in a battle the president appears to have greenlit.
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If that Trump Press conference is any indication, SFB is one of two things
Traitorous Psychotic or Psychotic Traitor.
Apparently the folks in Turkey don’t want to talk to either Mike but are happy to host Vlad
by George from the hill:
Conservative lawyer George Conway on Wednesday lit up President Trump on Twitter, calling him a “sociopath.”
Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway and a frequent critic of the president, did not mince his words Wednesday afternoon, calling Trump a “sociopath” and a “con man.”
“He lies because he’s a sociopath, a con man—to deceive others,” George Conway tweeted.
“But he also lies because he’s a pathological narcissist—to deceive himself, to protect his fragile ego from narcissistic injury,” he added.
The post was part of a series of tweets that Conway made concerning the president. Several of his subsequent tweets played on his “sociopath” comment.
Trump, Conway asserted, “isn’t up to the task” of being president and “acts incompetently, and irrationally.”
In another tweet, Conway brought up Trump’s press conference with Finnish President Sauli Niinistö earlier this month, describing it as a “meltdown.”
This isn’t the first time Conway has attacked the president’s mental health.
In March, through another series of tweets, he suggested that Trump had at least two diagnosable personality disorders.
According to Federal Election Commission filings, Conway donated $5,600 to GOP primary long shot former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) on Aug. 30.
Conway is informally advising Walsh’s campaign.
Have Biden, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg and (ugh)Bernie! ‘debate’. Give the rest an eight year rest.
Instead of a fakebate, try having the candidates chat or demonstrate for about three hours on how to mow a lawn or grow a tomato, scrub a pan or wash a window, take a math or a history test, teach a dog to do a trick or teach a parrot to talk, fill in the income tax or hospital bill forms. unReality tv ! Then the eventual winner can claim that he/she had a higher rating than that boring old loser, trump. “In fact, all five of us had a higher rating than you did, loser ! You’re FIRED !”
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putin wins the Middle East !
trump ignores the advice of his fellow rapers, his Mid East advisors, and even his only friend in the region, bribey netanyahu. That should show netty and muhammed who trump’s REAL friend is.
bribe so perfect
White House (@WhiteHouse) tweeted at 1:55 PM on Wed, Oct 16, 2019:
President @realDonaldTrump just wrapped up a joint press conference with President Mattarella of Italy.
“The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome.” 🇺🇸🇮🇹 https://t.co/10Ib2h4O4e
Yep Ancient Rome and American Indians were great allies
Poobah, I almost pissed myself over that one. I guess the Romans helped American Indians build the well known American aqueducts.
They might as well phone that one in since Erdogan said he isn’t meeting with them. And said FU, according to WaPo.
What a president we have. Master of negotiation. (aka Dumbass).
Startled Italian interpreter looks up from her notes when Trump says Kurds are safe because “they’ve got a lot of sand to play with.”
Is it POSSIBLE for SFB to do things even more stupid than his blow up/melt down today?
He thinks this kind of idiocy turns out better for him exactly how?
Like trump, nero thought he was a great singer : “mi, mi, mi, mi, mi.”
Both could belt out a whiney, O, Solo Mio.
Sand : It’s the secret to all of Field Marshal Bone Spurs’ greatest victories.
Sand, lime, water, and the building inspector’s feet.
This has been a most depressing week; I sure am glad today is Friday. Semicolon personally approved by F.O.
Poobah, while that was one of the childish things he said, there was this:
Wharton was it? Jesus H. Christ.
O, Solo Mio – is that an American Indian tribal song? Cherokee, perhaps?
Trump is so out of his league, but we knew that. This letter is nuts.
Musta been Jasper Wartin’s School for Mental and Moral Defectives
Jamie – They’ve gone up every year since ACA came on the scene. That’s also when they started barricading benefits like physical therapy behind the deductible. Basically, you have to have surgery and meet the deductible before you can have physical therapy. I suppose I should be happy it wasn’t more of an increase…but of course, the deductible is higher so..
That’s one fucking dipsomatic letter. No wonder even his best friends want to scoop out his liver with their bare hands, and give him a dynamite suppository.
Uh, wuzzat word diplonasty ?
Bid
I have no way of knowing what the TX options are like. Here is WA there are some amazing plans.
I think Donny just told Er-doggone the Romper Room Rule: Do be a doo-bee. Don’t be a don’t-bee.
If the Repugz had any sense or balls, they would admit Trump has got to go.
FL has the same kind of problems, from what I’ve heard.
Sounds like SFB is getting close to the edge of whatever reality he is living in. And, it is not good for the world. We have to rely on many in the Pentagon who have taken their oath of duty seriously; “against all enemies, foreign and domestic”.
So, who is Field Marshal Bone Spurs going to nuke ? Massachusetts ? The Big Rez ? Acapulco ?
Flatus, what are the rules for disobeying a commanding officer’s illegal commands? Might be pertinent going forward. Because his next whim of an order to the military might be worse.
I believe the burden is on the person receiving the illegal order to disobey it at his/her own peril.
Craig
Flatus is correct. My son had to do it once. He was right so positive outcome. But if a serviceman or woman to do it, they better be sure of the law involved and/or there are other lives to consider.
The adult in the room!
My conflict simulation suggests that the object of the trump Syria Fiasco is to muck things up until Turks and Yanks shoot each. Then Turkey, with the 2d largest army in Europe, leaves NATO for putin’s Neo-Soviet Block. The Saudis, the ayatollah and the Israelis shiver in the shadow of the ascendant Kremlin. So do the Baltic States, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Rumania and Finland.
putin’s decapitation of the US government is the most spectacular black ops coup of all times. Lecarre’s baddies never contemplated anything so audacious. hitler’s takeovers of Austria, Czechoslovakia and Norway don’t even compare. Only the Hapsburgs’ takeover by marriage of Spain, Portugal, and their empires in the Americas and the East Indies can compare to putin’s victory over the USA.
Christians have to wonder if trump is the Beast and putin is the anti-Christ of the Apocalypse. Not being a Christian, I’m not quite an authority on the matter.
X=R, your 1:20 in the wee hours nailed it. the putie plan personified in prez SFB.
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