At another point in the conversation, Trump appeared to threaten Raffensperger and Ryan Germany, the secretary of state’s legal counsel, by suggesting both could be criminally liable if they failed to find that thousands of ballots in Fulton County had been illegally destroyed. There is no evidence to support Trump’s claim.
“That’s a criminal offense,” Trump says. “And you can’t let that happen.”
Others on the call included Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, and attorneys assisting Trump, including Washington lawyer Cleta Mitchell.
David Shafer, chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was quick to respond after the Washington Post released excerpts from the recording. In two separate tweets, he wrote:
“President @realDonaldTrump has filed two lawsuits – federal and state – against @GaSecofState. The telephone conference call @GaSecofState secretly recorded was a “confidential settlement discussion” of that litigation, which is still pending.”
“The audio published by @TheWashingtonPost is heavily edited and omits the stipulation that all discussions were for the purpose of settling litigation and confidential under federal and state law.”
FOX 5 Atlanta is waiting for clarification from Shafer on if he was referring to previously filed lawsuits about the election or new lawsuits stemming from the leaked phone call. At no point in the conversation does the talk appear to turn towards a settlement and a search of state and federal databases show no current pending litigation against the secretary of state. The search also revealed no new legal actions filed as of Sunday evening.
There are also reports a Georgia State Election Board has also sent a letter to Raffensperger asking him to open an investigation into criminal or civil wrongdoing involving the phone call.
According to Georgia law, only one party has to consent to have a phone conversation legally recorded outside of obtaining a warrant.
craig, yesterday you suggested (because the recording sound was better of D’ump voice compared to GA participants) the leak came from the white house. could have been any of these folk mentioned in above article:
“Others on the call included Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, and attorneys assisting Trump, including Washington lawyer Cleta Mitchell.”
OR and more likely it was D’ump himself who leaked/ordered it leaked knowing it would get 24/7 national coverage for all the conspiracies he talked about to be spread thru mainstream media. also he never misses an opportunity to ensure publicity for himself and haul in more contributions from his outraged cultists.
Not only an inside job but, I believe, at the direction of tRUMPsky. He needs to reinforce his lie about a rigged election with his base.
After The Washington Post on Sunday published an extraordinary phone call between President Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R), many observers shared one question: Did Trump break the law?
[…]
On social media, much of the conversation among legal observers and Trump critics revolved around a federal statute, 52 U.S. Code 20511, that makes it a crime to “knowingly and willfully” deprive or defraud a state’s residents of a free or fair election — or to attempt to do so.
Eric Holder, the former attorney general under President Barack Obama, shared the text of that statute on Twitter on Sunday. “As you listen to the tape consider this federal criminal statute,” Holder wrote.
The question, according to Justin Levitt, a law professor at Loyola Marymount University, is whether Trump was “knowingly and willfully” pressuring Raffensperger to count nonexistent votes when he told the GOP official, “I just want to find 11,780 votes.”
In other words: Does Trump actually believe that 11,780 ballots in his favor were cast but not counted?
Considering that two recounts, an audit and several judges have upheld President-elect Joe Biden’s win in Georgia, Levitt said it is clear Trump was not actually pushing for an “honest tally” of the votes.
“Either the president was engaged in the commission of a felony,” he said, “or he has lost his hold on reality such that he can no longer distinguish fact from the fictions he has been fed.”
Michael R. Bromwich, a former Justice Department inspector general, put it more bluntly on Twitter: “His best defense would be insanity.”
[…]
Other legal scholars said that Trump possibly violated 18 U.S. Code 241, which makes it illegal to participate in a conspiracy against people exercising their civil rights. That longstanding statute has been used frequently to prosecute acts of voter intimidation, especially those committed by the Ku Klux Klan against Black voters.
But charging Trump under that code would require prosecutors to show that someone else on the phone call was also aiding and abetting a scheme, Levitt said.
Additionally, Trump’s apparent threat of criminal consequences if Raffensperger failed to act could be seen as an attempt at extortion, The Post reported.
On the state level, Trump’s call could also have violated a Georgia statute.
Leigh Ann Webster, a criminal defense attorney in Atlanta, told The Post that in Georgia, Trump could run afoul of a state law that makes it illegal to cause someone else to partake in election fraud — by soliciting, requesting, or commanding it.
That’s the same statute cited on Sunday by David J. Worley, the Georgia election board member who asked Raffensperger to investigate Trump. In his email to the GOP official, Worley said that “probable cause” may exist to find violations of that law.
[continues]
George Conway offered insight into why he believes President Donald Trump is acting increasingly “delusional and desperate” after a recording of a phone call leaked Sunday, in which the commander in chief clearly pressured the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to find enough votes to overturn the results of the general election from November 3rd.
[…]
“It’s shocking, but not surprising,” Conway called the phone call question Monday morning, appearing on Morning Joe. “The real question that pops up here and pops up, again and again, is how delusional is he? Is he that delusional or is this — or is he just desperate, and I think it’s a little bit of both.”
“He is absolutely desperate to avoid leaving office on January 20th, and he’s delusional in the sense that he thinks this is the way to do it,” Conway added. “And the reason why he’s desperate, frankly, is because something more than him having to leave the grounds of the White House happens on January 20th. Something more important. He loses his immunity from criminal liability on January 20th.”
Conway then cited recent reports, most notably in The New York Times, that ongoing investigations in the Manhattan’s D.A. office into his finances are ramping up. “He’s obsessed with the fact that he loses his immunity on January 20th and that I think more — as much as anything else explains his desperation here,” Conway added.
Plane sightings fuel rumors Trump is planning to escape to Scotland on the day before Biden’s inauguration https://t.co/KP3FxpPrAh
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger stood by his debunking of President Donald Trump’s conspiracy theories as he reflected on their explosive phone call during a Monday appearance on Good Morning America.
ABC’s George Stephanopoulos expressed his shock as he spoke to Raffensperger about his conversation with Trump, who pushed numerous falsehoods on top of his claim that he won Georgia in the 2020 election. When asked what he was thinking, Raffensperger said “for the last two months, we’ve been fighting a rumor whack-a-mole. It was pretty obvious very early on that we debunked every one of those theories that have been out there, but President Trump continues to believe them.”
Stephanopoulos also asked Raffensperger if he felt “pressure” at the moment when Trump asked him to “find 11,780 votes” and help him overturn Joe Biden’s victory in the state.
“No,” Raffenperger answered. While he spoke of how the coronavirus pandemic posed complications for the election process, he also said “everything we’ve done for the last 12 months follows the constitution of the state of Georgia, follows the United States Constitution, follows state law.”
Trump totally devalues the value of the Presidential Medal of Honor
Georgia elections board member says Trump could be charged for soliciting election fraud https://t.co/oBvk2YrPGd
The drama over Georgia is better than any soap opera.
sipping my coffee and enjoying the show…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH. Repugs are tripping over each other while those who will challenge the certified votes in select states are tripping over their d*cks and even senators who are bartshit crazy (e.g. Tom Cotton) are pointing that out. Wapo:
The back-and-forth spread throughout the party on Sunday as lawmakers returned to the Capitol for the swearing-in. Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.), among the challengers, argued the effort was no different from Democratic objections to the 1969 and 2005 counts. In those instances, however, the losing candidate had long since conceded, and the dissent was marginal.
“Our democracy is strong enough to handle conversations about electoral integrity issues,” Lankford said.
Should the challenges be rejected Wednesday, Lankford said he would “absolutely” accept Biden as the rightful president. “Our goal is obviously to try to get the facts out, more than to be able to vote against the electors,” he added.
Both Lankford and Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.), a former House member who was sworn in Sunday as a senator, said they were signing on to the challenge as a response to concerns from constituents worried about electoral improprieties.
“I think the people of Kansas feel disenfranchised,” Marshall said. “They want us to follow through on the many irregularities that they saw in this particular election.”
He brushed off the near-unanimous finding of courts and state officials, including Republicans, that the election was fair. “I don’t think that the courts have heard all the facts,” Marshall said. “And I think that my responsibility is to fulfill my duty to the Constitution, the oath that we just took.”
But many Republicans appeared distraught that the move would put party members on record as fighting the clear outcome of a democratic election.
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said lawmakers had “a solemn responsibility to accept these electoral college votes that have been certified” by state officials. Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) added, “I think the overwhelming weight of the evidence is that Joe Biden defeated my candidate, Donald Trump, and I have to live with it.”
Late Sunday, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) issued a statement saying that he shares the “concerns of many Arkansans about irregularities in the presidential election,” but that the Founders “entrusted our elections chiefly to the states—not Congress,” and that he therefore will not oppose the counting of certified electoral votes.
When the hell does Tom Cotton sound like the sane guy in the room? Oh, and Mr. Lankford, Kansas’s votes are counted in favor of Trump – disenfranchisement would mean they were not counted. Get it? and ““I don’t think that the courts have heard all the facts,” Marshall said. ” Ummmm, exactly what facts does Congress have that the lawyers who brought the suits on behalf of Dumbass don’t? Wednesday should prove interesting if nothing else.
The WH made 18 attempts to call GA sec of state Raffensperger before Trump’s attempted shakedown over the phone Saturday, a GA state official confirms to CNN.
Democrats ask FBI Director Wray to open criminal probe into Trump after leaked phone call https://t.co/ce81qGFJx1
My guess is Trump ends up at his hotel in Istanbul where bro Erdogan protects him from extradition.
Right now Trump is terrifying the hell out of me. It isn’t so much about what he might do alone other than the Medal of Freedom nonsense and any possible pardons, but because of what his violent followers might do.
I truly believe both Biden and Harris are in danger of assassination and the government of the US is under threat by those such as those voting with Trump on 1/6 are willing to encourage his cult for the sake of their own greed and lust for power.
“bro Erdogan protects him from”
He insulted and tried to bully Erdogan, publicly, a few years, ago
Drudge
we can stop pretending doofus is smart, now- he committed a crime for which he can be impeached and lose immunity two weeks before he was set to leave office, duhhhhh
When fringe provocateurs like Massie and Cotton abandon you, you know you’re fucked.
Bye, bitch
I must have pandemic rage because I’m GDed sick & tired of the dictator breaking the law and NOTHING being done about it. Great, Wray and dems are gonna do something but will it amount to anything? I suspect not. He fiddles on the gold course while the country is dying. I hope he goes to Scotland or hell, which ever comes first, and stays there!! I’m SICK of it!
I know I have pandemic ennui!
if mitch really is worried about the upcoming “debate” debacle by cruz & fellow seditionists, he could make sure CSPAN won’t be functioning that day (due to maintenance/tech breakdown etc of course) and therefore take away the incentive to bloviate for the camera by the 2024 prez hopefuls
“Trump is out there now tweeting stuff like, ‘It’s gonna be wild on January 6th,’” Conway said. “He’s inviting, and retweeting tweets about people coming to Washington to do Lord knows what. And you know it’s going to be groups like the Proud Boys … and QAnon, and all of the crazies. He’s encouraging them to come to Washington on January 6th. And on the message boards apparently, there are basically threats of violence. That people are going to go, and go up to Capitol Hill, and Lord knows what. And this is a scary thing.”
Regional Leaders Urge Residents To Avoid DC Jan. 6 Protest
[…]
“MPD and HSEMA are coordinating among District agencies and with federal authorities to ensure our residents and businesses remain safe,” said Bowser in a statement. “I am asking Washingtonians and those who live in the region to stay out of the downtown area on Tuesday and Wednesday and not to engage with demonstrators who come to our city seeking confrontation, and we will do what we must to ensure all who attend remain peaceful.”
[…]
Bowser noted DC’s gun restrictions for members of the public attending protests. DC law prohibits anyone from carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of any First Amendment activity, and it is illegal under federal law to possess firearms on the US Capitol grounds and on National Park Service areas like Freedom Plaza, the Ellipse, and the National Mall. Concealed carry is not permitted in DC unless an individual has been issued a concealed pistol license by the District of Columbia. Open carry is not permitted in DC.
Regional residents should also be aware of DC street closures on Jan. 5 and 6.
FYI:
Economic Impact Payments
My status has changed from employed to retired this year. I qualify for this. I’m not usually money grubbing, but this time I am because I’m pissed. IRS on the phone – got to website. Website –
“Please Wait
Due to high demand, you may have to wait longer than usual to access this site. We appreciate your patience.” And then – Keeps reloading and then, too bad so sad, try later.
Fortunately, it looks like I can do this on my 2020 income taxes.
The government strikes again.
interesting, considering this might be where D’ump flees to on jan 19th. also, it’s just a hop skip and jump from there to a certain bff’s protectorates.
Donald Trump’s Scottish golf courses have again reported significant losses, totalling £3.4m, despite the first signs of profitability at his flagship Turnberry resort.
[…]
Despite its headline losses, Turnberry reported its first operating profit under Trump’s ownership, of £321,000, and also began paying off £115m in outstanding loans from the US president for the first time.
[…]
Turnberry said 2019 was a boom year, after investing heavily in its two golf courses, spa and events businesses. Its turnover grew 6.4% to £19.7m and staffing increased by 13% to 541 employees, many of whom were on fixed-term or seasonal contracts.
[…]
His sons and lawyers say the Scottish golf courses were bought using the family’s wealth without any external financing. However, the New York Times reported that in 2016, during the presidential campaign, Trump sought a further loan from Deutsche Bank to fund his refurbishment of Turnberry, using his Miami resort as collateral.
The “Dirty Dozen” or the “Sedition Caucus,” as the senators who declared their plan to challenge the electoral college votes have been tagged on social media, has been attempting an anti-democratic putsch.
[…]
Those who are lawyers — such as Cruz and Hawley, who both clerked for Supreme Court chief justices — should know better. Their actions should result in serious professional sanctions up to and including disbarment. Section 8.04 of Texas bar’s ethics rules says a lawyer shall not “engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation.” Deceiving the public about the outcome of an election and attempting to overthrow the duly elected president surely would qualify. Likewise, in Missouri, the ethics rules state, “A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous, which includes a good faith argument for an extension, modification, or reversal of existing law.” That perfectly describes the utterly unmeritorious challenge to the electoral college.
hmmm, so why did she tweet such a thing at this particular time when D.C. is about to be invaded by people planning to set up armed encampments on the mall? is it to give them her blessing?
Let me tell you why I WILL carry my Glock to Congress.
Government does NOT get to tell me or my constituents how we are allowed to keep our families safe.
Where is Carmen Sandiego? A fun game for young and old, it was a great game in the early development of computers, playable on 286, 386 and 486 processors. And, it was in full color. We are now playing the ‘where in the hell is the orange idiot and imbecile?’ I am still making up my mind. I do not think the idiot would enjoy a sand trap, and I have a hard time believing he cares for Scottish weather. Would he hide out in the Asia-Europe crossroad? Perhaps.
A note about the “Q” follower fruitcake from Colorado. The state can be crazy too, there are a lot of districts which have more cows and prairie dogs than people. I am waiting for the fool to do something stupid and end up in jail for a night.
Remember SFB is off his rocker. He is in a different world, and if he were the crazy fool in the dining room he would be shipped off to a padded assistive living home, ie locked up and unable to hurt himself or others. But, as he is useful to the ‘vangical white racists, he is not.
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”[2]
Wiki
Note the text , never dreamed of a female Vice President paired with the oldest white guy we could find.
As for Wed.
Let them march , don’t take the bait .
This will drive every suburban mother out of the GOP forever.
Jamie – What do think they’d do to tRUMPsky in Scotland?
And to think we owe much of this to a disk jockey , who’s formula was to preach petty grievances on AM radio for nearly 30 years. . How’s that cancer coming along Rush ?
You rotting fat bastard.
My railroad soap opera has taken a new turn. The elephants are still fighting.
An old Africa proverb –
” When elephants fight ………….. only the grass suffers”
I am organizing the towns along the route. From Minturn to Canon City , if they get together they become an elephant.
So the lovely Loeffler says she’ll vote to contest the Biden election results Wednesday. Wow, there’s a newsflash, kind of the magnitude of “This just in – it’s raining in Seattle.” But can she? What’s her status in the Senate right now?
Dallas County Health Dept. should start getting 2,000 doses of vaccine per day…starting next Monday.
It will either be a bigger refund OR you’ll owe less to the IRS. How F-ed up is that? It’s not stimulating the economy. It’s not putting food on the table or paying bills now. Absolute BS, courtesy of Moscow Mitch McConnell because of the delay. If payments had gone out earlier, folks would’ve had actual money in their pockets.
How many have been unemployed since March? How many are still underemployed? They are now offered help in the form of tax relief.
I hope Georgians will come through for us tomorrow. January 20th can’t come soon enough.
pogo, loeffler’s and perdue’s terms ended sunday didn’t they? if so, she & he won’t be voting wednesday if they don’t win the runoff.
Not much they could do to Trump in Scotland except for proceed with the various suits against his golf course there. Those are mostly civil actions.
The other Social Security recipients like myself who are getting shafted are those who are carried as dependents on the return of another. Originally the $600 was to go to the filer and any other adult dependent in the house and that changed to just the filer. So I didn’t get the earlier $1200 and now I’m not getting the $600.
Perdue’s term has ended; he can’t vote.
However, Loeffler remains (and could possibly vote) until the vote in Georgia is certified, because she’s just filling a seat to which she was not elected.
My check just bought two new tires for my 22 year old car. A $160 collar .
That is about 10% of the entire value of the car, but changing flat tires at 71 .
It is a real value.
My real hate about being old .
So many things I follow , I will never know.
God Bless you all , and don’t believe in Gods.
Ok, got the Loeffler story. Hers is a special election so her term did not end on 12/31. It runs until 2022 unless she loses 🤞. But she’s demonstrably stupid. wiki.
In late February 2020, Loeffler stated that “Democrats have dangerously and intentionally misled the American people on #Coronavirus readiness”. She went on to say that regarding COVID-19, “Americans are in good hands with” the Trump administration. In mid-March 2020, Loeffler addressed those who were “concerned” about COVID-19, stating that the country is “in the best economic position” to handle COVID-19. She again criticized Democrats, writing that they “continue to play politics with” COVID-19.
In October 2020, shortly after Trump and First Lady Melania Trump were diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending events where they closely interacted with other individuals while maskless, Loeffler, who often appeared at rallies and gatherings without wearing a mask, blamed their contraction of the disease on the People’s Republic of China, tweeting, “China gave this virus to our President @realDonaldTrump and First Lady @FLOTUS. WE MUST HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.”
Since becoming a senator, Loeffler has sponsored 42 bills and cosponsored 187. Loeffler has donated portions of her Senate salary to anti-abortion pregnancy centers and an anti-LGBTQ adoption agency.
Dumbass II.
The bigger picture is the split occurring in the Republican Party. Loeffler, Cruz, and the rest who are still propping up SFB are staking their claim. Sadly, millions of our fellow citizens are willing to stick with them.
It remains to be seen as to whether they claim the tarnished, brand name, or, if the Republican label is left for use by Romney, Sasse, and, the rats who jumped ship earlier.
At any rate, we will be dealing with a huge, third-party voting block going forward.
Pogo – She’s not dumb. She’s mercenary. Loeffler is heartless and racist, but she knows what she says and why. She would love to be Ivanker, too.
Guess who will be popping up to chose which side of the Republican split to grace with her presence. The ex-half-governor of Alaska, of course.
BiD, I stand on my assessment. Knowing what one says and why does not mean one is not stupid. It’s stupid to bet on a lame horse that has lost its last 60 races hoping the other suckers who bet on that horse will miraculously cure the horse and approve of your bet.
What weird thing will happen tomorrow?
We won’t know for days. So Dumbass. Hopes Mike Pence “will come through for “us”…? Stupidmuthuhfugger.
bid & pogo, thanks for the info on loeffler term status and correcting my bad. at least for now we’re rid of perdue. let’s hope we’re rid of both by the time the ballots are counted (& recounted & audited) in a few days/months.
which brings the question quo vadis senatus? if she is still a senator but election is in limbo, is mitch still in charge?
from fox5 (yeah, fox of all folk) in atlanta:
craig, yesterday you suggested (because the recording sound was better of D’ump voice compared to GA participants) the leak came from the white house. could have been any of these folk mentioned in above article:
“Others on the call included Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, and attorneys assisting Trump, including Washington lawyer Cleta Mitchell.”
OR and more likely it was D’ump himself who leaked/ordered it leaked knowing it would get 24/7 national coverage for all the conspiracies he talked about to be spread thru mainstream media. also he never misses an opportunity to ensure publicity for himself and haul in more contributions from his outraged cultists.
Not only an inside job but, I believe, at the direction of tRUMPsky. He needs to reinforce his lie about a rigged election with his base.
wapo via msn:
mediaite:
Plane sightings fuel rumors Trump is planning to escape to Scotland on the day before Biden’s inauguration https://t.co/KP3FxpPrAh
also at mediaite this morning:
Trump totally devalues the value of the Presidential Medal of Honor
Trump to give to Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes
Georgia elections board member says Trump could be charged for soliciting election fraud https://t.co/oBvk2YrPGd
The drama over Georgia is better than any soap opera.
sipping my coffee and enjoying the show…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH. Repugs are tripping over each other while those who will challenge the certified votes in select states are tripping over their d*cks and even senators who are bartshit crazy (e.g. Tom Cotton) are pointing that out. Wapo:
When the hell does Tom Cotton sound like the sane guy in the room? Oh, and Mr. Lankford, Kansas’s votes are counted in favor of Trump – disenfranchisement would mean they were not counted. Get it? and ““I don’t think that the courts have heard all the facts,” Marshall said. ” Ummmm, exactly what facts does Congress have that the lawyers who brought the suits on behalf of Dumbass don’t? Wednesday should prove interesting if nothing else.
The WH made 18 attempts to call GA sec of state Raffensperger before Trump’s attempted shakedown over the phone Saturday, a GA state official confirms to CNN.
Democrats ask FBI Director Wray to open criminal probe into Trump after leaked phone call https://t.co/ce81qGFJx1
Raffensperger: Trump could face investigation over election call https://t.co/8Rs4vAc2UK
My guess is Trump ends up at his hotel in Istanbul where bro Erdogan protects him from extradition.
Right now Trump is terrifying the hell out of me. It isn’t so much about what he might do alone other than the Medal of Freedom nonsense and any possible pardons, but because of what his violent followers might do.
I truly believe both Biden and Harris are in danger of assassination and the government of the US is under threat by those such as those voting with Trump on 1/6 are willing to encourage his cult for the sake of their own greed and lust for power.
“bro Erdogan protects him from”
He insulted and tried to bully Erdogan, publicly, a few years, ago
Drudge
we can stop pretending doofus is smart, now- he committed a crime for which he can be impeached and lose immunity two weeks before he was set to leave office, duhhhhh
When fringe provocateurs like Massie and Cotton abandon you, you know you’re fucked.
Bye, bitch
I must have pandemic rage because I’m GDed sick & tired of the dictator breaking the law and NOTHING being done about it. Great, Wray and dems are gonna do something but will it amount to anything? I suspect not. He fiddles on the gold course while the country is dying. I hope he goes to Scotland or hell, which ever comes first, and stays there!! I’m SICK of it!
I know I have pandemic ennui!
if mitch really is worried about the upcoming “debate” debacle by cruz & fellow seditionists, he could make sure CSPAN won’t be functioning that day (due to maintenance/tech breakdown etc of course) and therefore take away the incentive to bloviate for the camera by the 2024 prez hopefuls
more from george on mojo:
“Trump is out there now tweeting stuff like, ‘It’s gonna be wild on January 6th,’” Conway said. “He’s inviting, and retweeting tweets about people coming to Washington to do Lord knows what. And you know it’s going to be groups like the Proud Boys … and QAnon, and all of the crazies. He’s encouraging them to come to Washington on January 6th. And on the message boards apparently, there are basically threats of violence. That people are going to go, and go up to Capitol Hill, and Lord knows what. And this is a scary thing.”
patch:
FYI:
Economic Impact Payments
My status has changed from employed to retired this year. I qualify for this. I’m not usually money grubbing, but this time I am because I’m pissed. IRS on the phone – got to website. Website –
“Please Wait
Due to high demand, you may have to wait longer than usual to access this site. We appreciate your patience.” And then – Keeps reloading and then, too bad so sad, try later.
Fortunately, it looks like I can do this on my 2020 income taxes.
The government strikes again.
interesting, considering this might be where D’ump flees to on jan 19th. also, it’s just a hop skip and jump from there to a certain bff’s protectorates.
the guardian:
from wapo oped by rubin this morning:
hmmm, so why did she tweet such a thing at this particular time when D.C. is about to be invaded by people planning to set up armed encampments on the mall? is it to give them her blessing?
I had to make this one.
Uncle Joe coming up live in Georgia https://youtu.be/HKHfHgbTanI
Where is Carmen Sandiego? A fun game for young and old, it was a great game in the early development of computers, playable on 286, 386 and 486 processors. And, it was in full color. We are now playing the ‘where in the hell is the orange idiot and imbecile?’ I am still making up my mind. I do not think the idiot would enjoy a sand trap, and I have a hard time believing he cares for Scottish weather. Would he hide out in the Asia-Europe crossroad? Perhaps.
A note about the “Q” follower fruitcake from Colorado. The state can be crazy too, there are a lot of districts which have more cows and prairie dogs than people. I am waiting for the fool to do something stupid and end up in jail for a night.
Remember SFB is off his rocker. He is in a different world, and if he were the crazy fool in the dining room he would be shipped off to a padded assistive living home, ie locked up and unable to hurt himself or others. But, as he is useful to the ‘vangical white racists, he is not.
Just brushing up.
Wiki
Note the text , never dreamed of a female Vice President paired with the oldest white guy we could find.
As for Wed.
Let them march , don’t take the bait .
This will drive every suburban mother out of the GOP forever.
Jamie – What do think they’d do to tRUMPsky in Scotland?
And to think we owe much of this to a disk jockey , who’s formula was to preach petty grievances on AM radio for nearly 30 years. . How’s that cancer coming along Rush ?
You rotting fat bastard.
My railroad soap opera has taken a new turn. The elephants are still fighting.
An old Africa proverb –
” When elephants fight ………….. only the grass suffers”
I am organizing the towns along the route. From Minturn to Canon City , if they get together they become an elephant.
So the lovely Loeffler says she’ll vote to contest the Biden election results Wednesday. Wow, there’s a newsflash, kind of the magnitude of “This just in – it’s raining in Seattle.” But can she? What’s her status in the Senate right now?
Dallas County Health Dept. should start getting 2,000 doses of vaccine per day…starting next Monday.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/kelly-loeffler-david-perdue-electoral-college-certification/index.html
Loeffler, Purdue, tRUMPsky, they are all cut from the same cloth. You know, the kind they use to make klan hoods.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/business/business-leaders-letter-election/index.html
Maybe Repugz will listen to corporate America, if not to American voters.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/stimulus-check-payment-second-round/index.html
This is what TT was talking about. The $600 won’t show up to help some folks until they file their taxes. No immediate relief for some in need.
It will either be a bigger refund OR you’ll owe less to the IRS. How F-ed up is that? It’s not stimulating the economy. It’s not putting food on the table or paying bills now. Absolute BS, courtesy of Moscow Mitch McConnell because of the delay. If payments had gone out earlier, folks would’ve had actual money in their pockets.
How many have been unemployed since March? How many are still underemployed? They are now offered help in the form of tax relief.
I hope Georgians will come through for us tomorrow. January 20th can’t come soon enough.
pogo, loeffler’s and perdue’s terms ended sunday didn’t they? if so, she & he won’t be voting wednesday if they don’t win the runoff.
https://reasonstobecheerful.world/free-cash-homeless-low-income/ This is what actual stimulus funds can do to help folks get ahead.
Bid
Not much they could do to Trump in Scotland except for proceed with the various suits against his golf course there. Those are mostly civil actions.
The other Social Security recipients like myself who are getting shafted are those who are carried as dependents on the return of another. Originally the $600 was to go to the filer and any other adult dependent in the house and that changed to just the filer. So I didn’t get the earlier $1200 and now I’m not getting the $600.
Perdue’s term has ended; he can’t vote.
However, Loeffler remains (and could possibly vote) until the vote in Georgia is certified, because she’s just filling a seat to which she was not elected.
My check just bought two new tires for my 22 year old car. A $160 collar .
That is about 10% of the entire value of the car, but changing flat tires at 71 .
It is a real value.
My real hate about being old .
So many things I follow , I will never know.
God Bless you all , and don’t believe in Gods.
Ok, got the Loeffler story. Hers is a special election so her term did not end on 12/31. It runs until 2022 unless she loses 🤞. But she’s demonstrably stupid. wiki.
Dumbass II.
The bigger picture is the split occurring in the Republican Party. Loeffler, Cruz, and the rest who are still propping up SFB are staking their claim. Sadly, millions of our fellow citizens are willing to stick with them.
It remains to be seen as to whether they claim the tarnished, brand name, or, if the Republican label is left for use by Romney, Sasse, and, the rats who jumped ship earlier.
At any rate, we will be dealing with a huge, third-party voting block going forward.
Pogo – She’s not dumb. She’s mercenary. Loeffler is heartless and racist, but she knows what she says and why. She would love to be Ivanker, too.
Guess who will be popping up to chose which side of the Republican split to grace with her presence. The ex-half-governor of Alaska, of course.
BiD, I stand on my assessment. Knowing what one says and why does not mean one is not stupid. It’s stupid to bet on a lame horse that has lost its last 60 races hoping the other suckers who bet on that horse will miraculously cure the horse and approve of your bet.
What weird thing will happen tomorrow?
We won’t know for days. So Dumbass. Hopes Mike Pence “will come through for “us”…? Stupidmuthuhfugger.
bid & pogo, thanks for the info on loeffler term status and correcting my bad. at least for now we’re rid of perdue. let’s hope we’re rid of both by the time the ballots are counted (& recounted & audited) in a few days/months.
which brings the question quo vadis senatus? if she is still a senator but election is in limbo, is mitch still in charge?
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