David Gergen on CNN last night: “Trump has a whole lot of voters turning out who are dissatisfied, angry and feel betrayed by the establishment. And now the leaders of the establishment are coming out and saying we don’t give a damn what you think, we really don’t care. We are going to put our own person in there”
“This was an establishment that insisted Donald Trump take a loyalty oath, that you must be loyal to the person who emerges in the party, that’s what we expect of you. But is there any loyalty being shown to Trump now that he has emerged?”
“I do think he has the possibility of morphing into something. I think he could be housebroken before this is over.”
looks like le figaro agrees with you and gergen:
“In his own way, Trump is a whistleblower,” French daily Le Figaro said in a front-page editorial.
“He has reminded European political elites that it is dangerous to forget the language of those who vote for them,” the newspaper said on Tuesday.
“‘Populist’ leaders can rally those beyond their political base and it is dangerous to reduce them to their caricature,” it said, adding: “We have entered a time when we must be wary of the ‘impossible’.”
however bloomberg news writes:The French newspaper Libération called him “the American Nightmare.” The German newsweekly Der Spiegel slapped his face on its cover in front of flames crawling up an American flag. (Online, the fire was animated.) Wherever one looks in the continent, there’s rising alarm in the media about the possibility that Trump could become president of the U.S.
europeans grappling with the rise of drumpf
The European press has been full of apocalyptic foreboding.
“Madness,” screamed the cover of Germany’s Der Speigel.
and they should know…. been there, done that
I have contacted Tony. Says he’s not mad at anyone here… just saddened by the change in tone. He thinks this is a wonderful community and he wishes everyone well. But he does need to move on. I will miss him here.
Craig… just because someone is enjoying watching the take down of the Republican Party does not necessarily mean they don’t take the possibility of Trump becoming president seriously. If you don’t choose to join some of us with our popcorn… so be it. I’m gonna pop a really big bowl for tonight’s debate…
The Anxiety Closet is now safer than what is going on in the outside world:
Berkely Breathed Bloom County
Good morning.
RebelliousRenee,
Thanks for the update on tony. Hopefully he will return, when ready. Good man.
Both parties are being confronted with a sad truth: When you are afraid of the things that we think should scare you and vote the way we want you to because of it, that is good. When you aren’t afraid of the things that scare us, that is bad and must be changed.
I absolutely loath Donald Trump and did long before he ever even vaguely considered running for political office. It scares the beejesus out of me that a large percentage of my fellow Americans can’t see how ugly and dangerous the man has been and even worse, could be. I don’t think those people are stupid, but they have been sold a bill of goods for decades and now when the bill is coming due for the results of that bill, they are scared and willing to follow someone like Trump right over the cliff.
Can the GOP stop Trump without destroying themselves because they have been caught with their hand in the money & power cookie jar? Unfortunately, the answer may be yes. (Just to get my plug in: I’m counting on Hillary to stop both of them).
Eagerly awaiting Mitt’s ‘Don’t vote for Don like you didn’t vote for me!!‘ speech.
jamie, unfortunately there are many (even some of our fellow trail travelers) that believe the same thing and feel the same way about Hillary as you note about the drumpf. no matter what logical, rational, diplomatic, civil or compassionate language she uses or actions she takes they only see lies and distrust and evil. love (and hate) is blind.
I turned-on MSNBC at about 0700 this morning. It was absolutely terrible–I couldn’t watch it. I had watched Imus for years; until it became a shell of its former self. NPR can fit part of the bill, but…
excerpt from a Kansan’s personal pov on How Dixiecrats Became Republicans (worth reading entire article):
We’re in Kansas, so you might not think that’s important, but surely most of you do know that the base of the Republican Party today is in the south. That’s why you lost the last election. Your party tried to put a man in office who is everything the southern Democrat hates. Romney tried, twisting in the wind with one lie today and another lie tomorrow, to appeal to both the southern Democrat (who absolutely represents a huge bloc of the Republican votes today) – while trying not to turn the deep pocket Republicans off. It was a Herculean task. It was like Sysiphus pushing that rock up the hill, only to see it slide back down every time. I don’t like Romney because he’s more Libertarian than a moderate Republican. He wants a corporatocracy to rule America. He’s like Brownback on that.
But that’s not why he lost. He lost because too many old Dixiecrats in the south who now belong to the Republican Party refused to go vote for him.
That’s a matter of record.
As long as your party harbors and gives sustenance to the old Dixiecrats (and they are, by far, no longer just in the south – Kansas is full of them) – your party is not going to win a presidential race, again. The Hispanics and the African Americans and the Asians have woken up. They know now how important a single vote can be.
Will there be shifts in the future between parties, again? Hell, forget the future. It’s happening right now. You’ve got moderate Republicans all over this country dumping the GOP and registering as Independents.
Well, looks like the email investigation is getting down to the last phase. The FBI has granted immunity to the Clinton staffer who set up the email. So what’s that mean? Hard to say, but this nugget from the article gives a bit of context to this.
“Current and former officials said the conviction of retired four-star general and CIA director David H. Petraeus for mishandling classified information is casting a shadow over the email investigation.
“The officials said they think that Petraeus’s actions were more egregious than those of Clinton and her aides because he lied to the FBI, and classified information he shared with his biographer contained top secret code words, identities of covert officers, war strategy and intelligence capabilities. Prosecutors initially threatened to charge him with three felonies, including conspiracy, violating the Espionage Act and lying to the FBI. But after negotiations, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information.”
IMHO there is a world of difference between sending and receiving emails through a private server (which, mark my words, sent the data encrypted) and sharing documents with a lover.
I think at this point the fact that it’s the FBI granting immunity, rather than a U.S. Attorney, says that after what, 4 years in office and 3 years since, the FBI has not found enough to go to the Justice Department and convene a grand jury to investigate.
So what can the staffer tell them? Maybe he can tell them why Clinton decided to set up the server rather than use a government email server – but he wouldn’t be able to testify to that in a trial unless she told him why, which strikes me as unlikely. I am going to have to see if I can identify the statute that would be used to prosecute if there was a case.
The one thing that keeps coming back around in my mind is that Clinton was exchanging emails with highly placed government officials, likely the heads of all the major security and privacy divisions of the US Gov’t for 4 years, up to and including the USAG and even POTUS, and no one apparently thought there was a problem with that when it was occurring. At a minimum if the practice was a problem the State Dept IG should have been looking into it – betcha a million doughnuts that he (she?) exchanged emails from Clinton.
Dixiecrat, also called States’ Rights Democrat, Thurmond, Strom: States’ Rights Democratic Party Convention, 1948Stock footage courtesy The WPA Film Library member of a right-wing Democratic splinter group in the 1948 U.S. presidential election organized by Southerners who objected to the civil rights program of the Democratic Party. It met at Birmingham, Ala., and on July 17, 1948, nominated Gov. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina for president and Gov. Fielding L. Wright of Mississippi for vice president. The Dixiecrats, who opposed federal regulations they considered to interfere with states’ rights, carried South Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama, to receive 39 electoral votes; their popular vote totalled over 1,000,000
above from encyclopedia Britannica … but then what do they know
Flatus, I concur. Understand that Mika has a hard on against Hillary. She and Andrea Mitchell must go to Bouchon between their shows and discuss Hillary and how to slam her.
Pogo, if Petraeus had not been Petraeus, he would have been reduced to 2nd lieutenant and sent to the military prison at Ft Leavenworth for life. That he received such favorable treatment while others have suffered for a minuscule fraction of what he did is shameful. Misdemeanor my ass.
I could never go to a Bouchon-style establishment; I abhor pâté 🙂
Flatus, I’m not certain about the classification system (in fact I know very little) but I’m guessing that the first inquiry (such as in Petraeus’ case) is whether classified information was shared with someone who did not have security clearance at a level to handle that information. You’d know more about this than I.
flatus, but i bet you like liverwurst, just not that snooty french stuff. altho’ the tho’t of what suffering they put the goose thru to produce a good foie gras does give me pause.
pogo & flatus, remember the ruckus over sandy berger’s unauthorized removal of classified records?
at drumpf rally
“They were pushing and shoving at me, cursing at me, yelling at me, called me every name in the book. They were disgusting and dangerous.”
pogo & pat
Need-to-know is the over-arching factor in disseminating any sensitive/classified information. A security clearance indicates that an investigation into a person’s background and/or character has been made and it has been determined that, at the time of investigation, the person is believed trustworthy to receive classified information up to and including a specific level such as secret or top-secret. Special access programs require separate decisions and are not made on a blanket basis.
In certain situations I have taken selected individuals and have sworn them to silence under penalty of incarceration should they reveal the information that I was about to give them. This is where there need to know was paramount and they were otherwise trusted. Afterwards, the information was formally erased from their minds.
Now, wurst. My mother tried sending me off to school with goose liver sandwiches. I loathed them. I begged her to send them to the starving children overseas. Finally, she relented and I was put on peanut butter&jelly. The wurst was over.
Trump is going to be on the ballot in November. Be it as a republican or as an independent. Publicity stunts like Romney’s speech today simply help ensure that outcome. Trump has the republican party by the short hairs and he knows it. He also honestly has come to believe that he is presidential timber. A fawning mediaa has helped reinforce that belief.
OK, according to one article I read the applicable statutes are 18 USC §793, 44 USC §3106 and Executive Order 13526. I’ll have to read them to see if the facts as we know them (although admittedly incomplete) look like a prima facie case could be made under any of them, and if so, against whom.
RR, I’ll be watching the debate for sure, might even pick up some popcorn.
9 p.m. Eastern on Fox News and will stream live on FoxNews.com
Pogo
Hillary already told us why she set up the private server. Just because the GOP, minions, and conspiracy theorists don’t want to believe it, doesn’t make it any less true: It made her life easier & more convenient for communication with husband, daughter, Foundation, and state department. As with most people in their 60s or over in relation to technology, it was a case of “just make this work” so I can get my job done. She knew Powell & Rice had private servers. Her’s was different slightly in location & use, but not to her knowledge, illegal.
She has apologized as this was a lapse in judgement. Again … NOT ILLEGAL. As far as anyone, anywhere can determine. No classified material whether marked or unmarked at the time did not go anywhere it was not supposed to go. Only possible problem with this, was that server hacked or compromised in any way by some other entity. This is what the FBI has been investigating. So far to date, no evidence of hacking. During the same time, various government agencies including State have had their computers compromised. The case could be made that Hillary’s server was actually safer.
Since I hold this view and think it is totally backed by existing evidence, you can understand why I get all pissy and bent out of shape when anyone calls her a criminal.
I don’t think there’s any legs to a violation of the Executive order. It’s got too much discretion built in and relies upon the “original classification authority” to make the determination whether to classify, and if there’s significant doubt” about the need to classify, it shouldn’t be classified.
If HRC destroyed emails that were official, that could be a problem under 44 USC §3106. There’s an argument that putting them on her server was a removal under the statute, but that would have to be evaluated under case precedent since 1950.
Hard to say about 18 USC §793. It is a broad statute that has lots of twists and turns, but as I suspected, the meat of the statute is transmitting information that the person sending it to a person not authorized to receive it has reason to believe sending it would harm the US, or not turning over to the US documents, etc. that should be protected, that would be a problem BTW, it looks to me like 793 likely served as the basis for the Petraeus prosecution.
Oh and just for additional input, I spent several years handling Classified material up to Top Secret and have discussed with my son who has also dealt with such materials. Over classification is a major problem particularly when one Department gets in a male member waving contest with another.
Things that are in no way confidential when once included in a document that does have a higher security clearance, can then become tainted with that level to the extent that if you remove it from the document and publish it again separately you can be gigged for mishandling & security violations.
You can end up with things publicly available on the net or in magazines that might send you to jail if you reveal them once they have been placed within another document. It’s insane and you probably won’t be incarcerated, but anyone can accuse you of anything if it becomes political.
Pogo, I think the general policy (government-wide) is that information should not be placed under the classified umbrella without an overriding public-interest reason for so doing. Candidates for classification should be identified by approved classification guides or referral to original classification authorities. Generally, the person who writes something doesn’t make the classification decision unless that decision is derived from a guide or granted by an authority. By virtue of her office, I think an SoS, probably has authority, in title, to take virtually any action relating to classifications. In reality, that authority is delegated to expert functionaries.
Jamie, I don’t think they will go after her if at all for setting up the email server. I think the potential area of exposure is that there were emails sent to Sidney Blumenthal that were captured by a Romanian hacker that the RW claims violated one of the statutes. I’m not sure they are correct. Emails from Blumenthal wouldn’t be a problem – he was not a State Dept. employee and was providing his insight on events. The question is whether HRC sent him emails that contained classified information. Both of the statutes at issue are from 1940s or 1950. The history of their application in prosecutions helps determine their applicability to electronic data in an email age. Back then technology of information storage and exchange was not far removed form the Enigma days and encryption was nothing like it is now. The other issue is whether any information she sent or was compromised by its storage on her server was classified whether it had been marked the same at the time. I think there will not be any charges that result if it is ever referred to a grand jury for investigation.
Flatus, what you said is consistent with my non-governmental understanding. The executive order I listed reflects that default toward not classifying if there is any serious doubt about the need.
This Romney disses Trump stuff is just too delicious for words. Both of them are right. Romney’s a loser and Trump’s a fraud.
Pogo
” The question is whether HRC sent him emails that contained classified information. ”
This is what I referencing when talking about unclassified material that may have been contained in a classified document and was that document classified at the time the unclassified material was removed and sent to some thir party. It really can be a can of worms. Speaking of which, I could tell you how to clean tube worms off a sonar dome since the pictures of the domes are no longer classified. 🙂
http://www.maritime.org/doc/nstm/ch081.pdf
Oh yeah…
well I think the deflategate appeal being heard today in NYC will result in the top secret classification of the PSI of all NFL footballs. Judge Berman, of the lower 9th circuit court and the actual one on trial today, will be required to turn over all his emails on said subject and say 4 Hail Marys. Thomas Brady, NFL quarterback for the team entitled “New England Patriots”, will be required to eat his cellphone the next time he wants to dispose of it.
Afterwards all will go to lunch at one of those infamous NY delis… however… no one will be allowed to order liverwurst.
SJWNY,
I respect Rodney King. He may have been a scamp and a drunk, but he was beaten within a millimeter of his life and permanently damaged on a night when certain LAPDmen were “hunting” N*gg*ers. Still, against all personally collected evidence King hoped that we could all get along. The world will only be healed when we all reject the evidence of our past injuries and embrace good will.
The only way to defeat trumpism is to win at the the ballot box, on the street, in the office, and at home. There is no winning without goodwill and getting along. If we can’t embody good will, then we are doomed to live in the world as envisioned by trump, and enslavement to trumpery is inevitable.
Pardon me, please, for seeming preachy. I am working at transforming my own less than 100% benevolent person.
Renee,
Do any of those delis serve crow ?
The world will only be healed when we all reject the evidence of our past injuries and embrace good will.
rev. xr, well preached. too bad the folks in the middle east, the folks in ireland, the folks in usa south and we here on the trail can’t bring ourselves to that state of grace.
that being said, i’m still wondering about what dastardly thing hillary did to our fearless leader to turn him to such dark hatred of her. looking back to the dirty deeds of past pols that may have affected him (teddy vs jimmy as an example) I don’t understand why she is worse and so unforgiveable.
also considering today’s thread lauding drumpf vis a vis poohbah having worked in the mondale campaign, it’s ironic in regard to that campaign (per wiki) “Southern whites and northern blue-collar workers who usually voted Democratic switched their support to Reagan because they credited him with the economic boom and saw him as strong on national security issues”.
A brief article by Art Patnaude in today’s WSJ says that number of superrich world-wide has shrunk by 3% last year to about 187,000. The magic number? $30 million or more in assets. That seems pretty low to me. I would call that well-to-do. Superrich should be $1 billion.
flatus, so is a puny one million just middle class now?
Flatus I agree by that definition any power ball winner or base ball player can be super rich. I would put it at several hundred million at least 300 maybe 500
from cnn
This is not the first time a Romney has taken a powerful stab at the Republican frontrunner. In 1964, his father, Michigan Gov. George Romney, blasted his party’s decision to nominate Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater.
George Romney predicted presciently that Goldwater’s candidacy would be devastating to the GOP, a party where northern moderates still played a huge role in the electorate and the party leadership. One of George Romney’s sharpest critiques of the Arizona senator revolved around his opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, a position that Romney couldn’t understand. “A ‘no’ vote on civil rights certainly indicates,” he said, “that Goldwater’s views in this vital area are not in accord with the sentiment of the majority of the public, the majority of Republicans, the majority of Congress…”
[….]
Though he wasn’t the nominee, Romney worked hard to make sure that the GOP included a strong civil rights plank in the party platform. He avoided endorsing Goldwater, to the dismay of conservatives. When one Goldwater supporter approached Romney to request his support, according to historian Rick Perlstein, he received “nothing but a bitter stare.”
I don’t think Mitt Romney likes Donald Trump.
Katarina Pierson, national spokesperson for the Trump campaign just criticized Romney for being a Republican speaking about social justice. (CNN) Quite amazing!!!
Everyone have a good day…be kind!
Somebody, please, find a clip of The Family Guy’s “he’s a big, fat, phony” episode.
Romney sounds like Rubio, Sr. “He’s a con man.” Most people in Congress are phonies, too, Willard. They represent Big Pharma, etc., not the voters to whom they promise to represent.
pogo, is he referring to the same laws you were discussing earlier?
BlueinD… okey, dokey…
patd, I believe so. I saw Muckasey on MJ this morning and remember his testimony about torture led John McCain to call him a liar.
If history repeats itself with Romney-isms, does that mean we’ll end up with Richard Nixon pretty soon?
RR – Thanks! Everyone in the office enjoyed that clip!
By the way, Mittens helped create the creature that helped kill Main Steet; the superstore. All of the mom & pop office supply shops were just the first to go when he helped to Staples. Superstores, in turn, bleed their vendors with rebates, compliance fees, etc. Those add-ons are their cash cow, not the products they sell which are primarily made overseas.
~Yes, let’s all listen to Willard. He cares.~
lol
Yeah, a RR nominee, shrub bush nominee discussing HRC’s ethical behavior in office.
Snort.
Jack
I think the really dangerous thing about the investigation of the emails is the use of the FBI and law enforcement to bring down a political opponent. That is shades of “the End of the Republic’
Jack
flatus, so is a puny one million just middle class now?
It depends. If its on top of a substantial, fully vested pension plan with healthcare, and the $1 million is beyond one’s dwelling and car, in other words is not collateral for other assets, then I would say the individual should feel comfortable. Depending on the individual, the cash may be a nest egg, may be used for vacations, etc., gifted to children or grandchildren or scholastic institutions, or left to the government to build a new wing on the library.
On the other hand, if it’s the extent of one’s assets including house, cars, IRA, etc., then, conservatively invested, it may provide $40 thousand/year in cash assuming half the $1 million is in investments. That plus SS will be enough to survive.
Yeah Jack…. keep those ancient Roman references coming…
Renee
I’m an optimistic person but they just keep popping up. I’m kinda scaring myself. While I have faith in the American people it is our institutions that all seem broken and I’m putting our press front and center on that one.
Jack who will restrain himself ;-0
marc murphy cartoon
Trump is a feckless blowhard and the media has made him credible by talking about his tapping into the anger against DC when what he has done is tapped into racial hatred. Every other word out of his mouth is …”some of my best friends are…..)
Okay Drumpf just said he could get Romney to give him a blow job for the sake of money and an endorsement, and the crowd cheered. I’m checking whether I can live on Social Security in Australia.
chart from brookings
Trump is a lowbrow, vulgar sexist and everything else that Romney said he is. He is truly an affront to all civilized people.
So the GOOPs didn’t condemn Tom Tancredo, Sheriff Arpio , The Tea Party — they welcomed racists and losers into their big tent and now there is no one left to save them — all the people who could have either left the party or were effectively silenced by pigs like Cheney and Rumsfeld
Trump -housebroken — isn’t the appeal to his voters that he is not— why would he let himself be co-opeted
And you can get under his skin–Yeah support him but the costwill be great civil unrest and an increase in hate crime and it will on the heads of good people who thought it was a joke on t he establishment — those are not the people who will suffer
Short Fingered Vulgarian is the nickname one of the NY papers gave Trump
guess who tweeted this as reported by rawstory:
“Trump’s favorables just rose again, as did the veil you willingly wore while being used by the corrupt political establishment who can’t afford to lose their power in liberal D.C.,”
[….]
“Your speech was so silly and contradictory it confirmed the reasons Trump received tens of thousands more votes than you did in your own home state that you governed,”….. “Silly man. Could the establishment really not find anyone credible in their holier-than-thou movement to spew the deception you regurgitated today on tv?”
silly knows silly when she sees it.
god, w’re reading Palin tweets now? The second one is her new novel?
Poor Mitt. He brought a butter knife to a cannon fight.
I guess Mitt still thinks he was a contender
I applaud the country clubbers for standing up finally and saying something. They are doing it at the expense of a new and expanding Republican Party –I am shocked but they have finally said — if you are a racist you are not welcome in our big tent.
Of course self-awareness would be helpful too. Still ok to hate women and homosexuals though
Pat
what can I say, lol
Go Sarah, goo Sarah goooo Sarah!!!
Whoo, Whoo, Whooooo!!!!
Renee is that popcorn popped yet?
Jack
KGC
lol yea
and Mitt has been politically slapped up side the head too many times too.
He needs to donate his brain to science. The sooner the better.
Jack
jack, just remembered your double vision issue (going gaga over half-gov reminded me). did the doc fix it?
I haven’t seen either Mittens or The Short Fingered Vulgarian today – we are having tv silence today — well until the warriors game.
But good for Mitt for speaking out as many other Republicans have done. Someone should make an ad of them and what they are saying That’s what Democrats did in 1968 when the nomination was decided most undemocratically. That gave birth to the New Democratic Coalition and at the next convention there was a decidedly different tone.
Would Gene McCarthy have done better than HHH ? Hard to know when so many other factors colored the race but it did lead to a better nominating process for the Dems but also the death of the political convention.
onion does myth vs fact on Hillary funny but don’t read it if you are a hardcore hillarista, you’ll get mad. but the boss, mud, purple and blueid will love it.
best line imo: “Myth – Women will vote for Clinton simply because she’s female.
Fact – Historically, women have always voted for a male candidate in the general election.”
from rawstory: Trump campaign co-chair arrested for conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States
Jerry Delemus, the husband of a New Hampshire Republican lawmaker and co-chair of the state’s “Veterans for Trump” coalition, was arrested Thursday for his role in the armed standoff nearly two years ago at the Bundy ranch.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested Delemus on nine federal charges — including conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, threatening a federal law enforcement officer, obstruction of justice, attempting to impede or injure a federal law enforcement officer and several firearms charges, reported Portsmouth Patch. [….]
His wife, state Rep. Susan Delemus (R-Rochester) announced the arrest to the former chairman of New Hampshire’s Republican Party — who issued a call on Facebook for “all NH patriots to come together ASAP” to ”protest this tyranny in the most visible way possible.”
hurrah! from huffpo:
Supreme Court Denies Bid To Block EPA Rule Over Mercury Pollution
The action came about a month after the high court put on hold federal regulations to curb carbon dioxide emissions mainly from coal-fired power plants.
The U.S. Supreme Court sided with the Obama administration on Thursday in rebuffing a bid by 20 states to halt an Environmental Protection Agency rule to curb emissions of mercury and other toxic pollutants from power plants.
alexandra petri How Mitt Romney actually could have stopped Donald Trump
I honestly think he could have changed the state of the race if he’d stepped up to the microphone and laughed.
“Listen,” he could have said. “Guys. Hey, guys. Ha ha. Listen, I know Donald. He’s laughing at all of you. Believe me. You can’t see this because you can’t afford to go where he goes. But I can. I’m a millionaire, remember. If you think he’s actually out there to shake things up, you’re wrong. I’m in the establishment with him. We golf together, weekly. He’s like a brother to me. We have adjoining homes in Davos and matching tattoos with sinister eyes surrounded by triangles. Trust me when I say that he does not mean anything he says. I know, because he has told me. I have been in rooms with him. I know what he told the New York Times: the truth. He’s with me. He’s with us. He’s completely safe and totally harmless. We get together at our Sinister Establishment Meetings and laugh while throwing gold bouillon (or in his case, gilded bouillon) to the pigeons. We’re in the Illuminati together. Believe me, he’s just as invested in the status quo as any of us. A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for me. I love the guy.”
That could have done it.
True? False? Who cares? Just get the story out there. You think fact-checking has done anyone any good this election? When has a good conspiracy theory (or Trump promise) ever had to stand up to a fact-check?
Instead, it was just more of the same, but delivered by someone with the charisma of toast.
I just viewed a 3 minute video of highlights of Romney’s “take down” of Trump. Geeez… Max Headroom at his wimpiest. Donald Trump is a disgusting human being who just picked up more votes because the Republican establishment is basically tone deaf.
I’m popping a really, really big bowl right now… it will be the greatest popcorn ever.. it will be awesome!
miami herald’s dave barry and carl hiaasen
▪ Hiaasen on the Donald: “It’s like someone put a Muppet in the microwave.”
▪ Barry on Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders: “Bernie is very angry at everything. He’s “extremely popular with people who probably never had a job.” On Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton: “She scares the s–t out of me.”
▪ Hiaasen on a global worldview: Trump “couldn’t find Syria with a GPS. He is truly one of the most intellectually lazy human beings that has ever run for president.” (Tell us how you really feel, Carl.)
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Well that is absolutely true and echoed by that mental giant Susan Sarandon with “voting your vagina” and echoed by every Bernienista from one end of the continent to the other.
Of course women voting for Hillary are actually voting for competence, brilliance, ability to do the job, commitment to the welfare of others and the good of the nation exceeding every carrier of a penis in contention and just consider a vagina an extra added value.
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