CDC recommends no gathering of 50 people for the next eight weeks, but the recommendation does not apply to schools and businesses. So only if there are 50 people gathered for non-business or non-educational purposes, they shouldnāt get together. How stupid. Either the recommendation should apply to all gatherings and 50 people, assuming that thereās some basis in fact rather than pulling that number out of someoneās ass, for the next eight weeks, assuming some basis in fact rather than pulling that number out of someoneās ass, or it shouldnāt. My gut says it should apply across the board. Otherwise it will be marginally effective at best.Ā But Iām not an immunologist, so what my gut says doesnāt mean shit.
If Ireland can close pubs for 2 weeks, why canāt we? Ā Ā
PA governor taking this pretty damn serious. Schools closed until end of month. In 4 Philly collar counties, “non-essential” businesses are closed until further notice, including bars. Restaurants can do take-out/delivery. Grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, and healthcare services deemed essential. People are organizing to help older neighbors, hourly workers, buying gift certificates for local retailers to use when they re-open, etc. Yesterday, feed store had “flatten the curve” posters throughout the store. Interesting times we are living in.
I hope both candidates appear presidential
Biden is the best looking of the remaining candidates not too mention way better looking then SFB
So far in New York City: A lot of businesses, most of the colleges, all of the museums (including the one I work at), broadway — But the public schools have been left open. I know a lot of New Jersey has issued a curfew for bars (9/10 pm) — It hasn’t happened here.Ā
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KGC… Ā lol! Ā SFB is the ugliest… inside and out.
Dems Last Chance,
Joe needs to be friendlier, not try to out anger Bernie, who owns that space.Ā
Good Answer O Biden on Italy
Bernie,
You could turn this point on not being prepared on O Biden as they went through N1 H1 and did NOTHING to help prepare for the next event.Ā It has nothing to do with who pays what.
It is also why Trump is Correct as O Biden / BamaĀ DID NOTHING TO GET US READY
Bernieās irrelevance shining throughĀ
Obama established the WH office for pandemic management, headed by scientists. SFB shut it down, waited until his prodigious gut told him to put science denier Pence in place to lead the effort, backed up by the Secretary of the fucking Treasury. Donāt try to sell that crap.Ā
Pong, trumputin had 3 years to get ready, including 2 years with majorities in the Senate and House : total repub failure.
Nothing subtle about Biden and tonight sadly I have to agree with Craig about Bernie
Crazy was so worried about Mexican disease that he let Chinese & Italian disease in. He deserves it.
Pong, trump owns the corona virus and all the associated cadavers, too. Pro-life, my ass.
So far Biden is focused, Bernie is tilting at windmills.Ā
President Cray Cray will make the fed give away money if the stock market tanksĀ
Pogo… you nailed it!
X Rep????
Great Trump shut China down and was called many ugly names???Ā And O Biden is in the pocket of the ChineseĀ
Craig
Agree,Ā Bernie is not showing well,Ā O Biden is doing much better
Pogo,Ā We are a republic and industry was still stifled by the O Biden/ Bama red tape.Ā
Our boys should have gotten together beforehand to agree on how best to ream the crazy baseturd out. Make it a ‘who can ream the republican mob nastiest’ event.
Pong, horseshit. That is a talking point that even if true has nothing to do with the topics addressed tonight.Ā Thatās called a pivot.
Fact
US 3499 .000001 of population
France 4512 .000067Ā Much higher then USA
GermanyĀ 5795Ā Ā .000069Ā close to France and much higher then USA
ItalyĀ Oh MY
THANK YOU DONALD AND YOUR GREAT SCIENCE TEAM FOR GOOD DECISIONS
Pong, 2 little 2 late. The NSA knew about the epidemic in Wuhan in mid-November from tapping commie Chinese social media. (But of course trump doesn’t read any reports; he knows it all without any actual information.) By the time trump got around to admitting that he’d lied about it being a hoax, Seattle and NYC were crawling with cofeve19. tds = trump disease snafu
I havenāt heard of anyone calling Fatass the mulligan president racist over his Coronavirus China policy. I think he made it up. Ā Gee why would I think heās a liar
Pogo
We are a republic and thank God we are!!!Ā What we need in my town is much different then what they need outside of NY City.Ā Ā
Nice to see that you are so happy about Americans dying of trump’s plague. For awhile people thought you were ‘pro-life.’ Nice to know that you have no concern about American lives. Except ‘great trump,’ of course.
TDS
TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME
FOUR MORE YEARS !
Do you watch Smerconish on CNN, The only Journalist on CNN, and watch yesterdays program.Ā 4 more years
X – ???
No one is happy about anyone that is impacted, we are in the best of the worst situation.Ā that is fact and because of the action taken by President Trump.Ā I am an optimist and hopeful for the best.Ā And yes,Ā At some point it is wrong to allow life to be taken.Ā
Watching this debate feels like my Dad’s assisted living dining room.Ā
The trump plague. It’s fitting. I think that’s what we should call it until it’s written up that way in the Texas history books. Cofeve19 is sooooo passe.Ā
Ya, Pong, your town doesn’t need water, streets, sewers, police, hospitals, schools, fire dep’t, or any of that other communistic NYC stuff. Your town can survive on nothing.Ā
Is this a set up to help O Biden look good?Ā The 4th Estate is playing with us
X,Ā I am watching the debate.Ā Ā And my town and state does a great job
Have a good evening
I watched Smerconish today. 4 more years? Ā BS.Ā
Yes weāre a Republic. You show me any difference in position among the republicans in the House and those in the senate and Iāll buy your argument. There is no law, rule or regulation emanating from the federal government that will solve every problem of every community, but the federal government can fund local efforts that local governments canāt. Youāre conflating local efforts with federal directives and funding. You tell me why Mnuchin and idiot Kudlow have anything to do with coronavirus response and guidance. Bumper sticker sayings and false equivalences arenāt argument. But they suffice in tRumpworld.Ā
tds = trump disease snafuĀ
4 more years ? How ’bout 20 years to life ?
“THANK YOU DONALD AND YOUR GREAT SCIENCE TEAM FOR GOOD DECISIONS” – Pong celebrates the trump plague
“No one is happy about anyone that is impacted” – Pong pretending he’s soulful
“And yes,Ā At some point it is wrong to allow life to be taken. ” – pong, fake pro-lifer
Biden. Ā Good answer on voting for each other.Ā
Bernie also good but not looking as presidentialĀ
“And my town and state does a great job” – Pong, on the most corrupt town and state in America
Sorry, palm beach is the most corrupt.
Pogo,Ā Did you see the next to last segment on the focus groups from those that had been Obama vs Obiden voters that switched to MAGA Trump, and that today based on the two that you are watching today, Those voters will stay with MAGA Trump.
It is over
Biden looks good, got him haircut, looks fit and acts 20 years younger than Bernie.Ā
And next to Trump he will roll.Ā
Jack
New Orleans and all of Louisiana
Despite the inevitability of it devolving into an argument…To which I uttered “Grandpas are fighting”…A complement to the strange quality of making sure both candidates were healthy (Was anyone else uncomfortable?) – I agree that Biden did give a strong final quip.Ā
KCG,
How are you?
Agree Biden is looking the best.
Pong, Iām doing something I seldom do and reposting something I put up before.Ā
Just talked with my surgeon. NYC hospitals have suspended elective surgeries and are limiting clinic visits. There were 3 known CV19 cases in isolation rooms the day after my surgery ā which is when I left the hospital. He said that as a thinking person he thinks our government and the airlines arenāt, well, werenāt thinking- allowing flights from Italy and South Korea into New York ā just stupid. New York now has 685 cases according to him. This is what we call a cluster fuck.Ā
This guy is smarter than you, me and at least a couple more people combined. He said the federal government could see the problem coming at least a month ago and just did nothing to prevent travelers from returning from Italy and Korea, two of the biggest hotspots. Trump diddled and contradicted his own fucking experts. Itās trumpās albatross in sharp focus. If youād likery or grape let me know.Ā
Pfffft. Ā Mnuchin wonāt even admit weāre in a recession. Ā Trump talks out both sides of his gob, contradicting what medical experts tell him. Ā Pence is is a worthless suck-up. Ā Ā Funny thing is, Trumpās lemmings are actually following him over the cliff. Ā SFB says itās no big deal so Repugz, like the Gov of OK takes his family to a restaurant and brags about how packed it is. Ā Ā Dems are taking this seriously. Ā Trump plague will kill off his supporters. Ā #trumpāsplague
Pogo
No disagreement – This is a crazy situation with Covid-19 and we all must come together.Ā Good things are happening and i am hopeful that we come through.Ā I hope all on this thread are wellĀ
Watching these two is sad…
Sanders does not know what real leadership is, because he has never led anything successfully in his life. I do agree with Biden in that if you can make changes to something that is going to pass to make it better – you do it. Just voting “No” all the time does not get anything accomplished.
As for Biden… He is just an old politician. The bailout to the banks was done on the hope they would lend – and they did not. It was the Democrats and Republicans who allowed the mortgage crisis to happen, and then left consumers out to dry. The Obama spending and regulation increases slowed the recovery.
I did find it amusing though that in the pitch to people who vote for Sanders he calls supporters of Bernie Sanders “followers” like they are a cult.
Biden’s commitment is to select a woman as a running mate. Elizabeth Warren will be that choice.
Time to turn this off and get back to work.
Yeah… didnāt think Iād feel this way…. Ā BUT… Ā it was better when there was 10 candidates on that stage.
Michael,
Your comments are in line to the report on Smerconish this AM that none of these two are considered to be leaders.Ā To all on this thread, go watch it.
It is overĀ
Trump 2020
@RebelliousRenee Yes! Agreed!
I think Bernie just took a little stroll down the Pacific Coast HighwayĀ
Ā Ā
Do the moderators realize that everything has changed since the last debate, even though it was on the way to our shores? Ā Why didnāt Trump tell the FDA to free up regulations to get testing underway. Ā This morning, the doc from Boston said the FDA made it possible only yesterday. Ā Ā TrumPence has failed at every level of this health crisis. Ā Amy Klobuchar is working on an act to ensure weāll get to vote in November. Ā Ā Ā
DOG WHISTLEĀ Ā xenophobia
STOP IT – O BidenĀ Ā Ā This is TDS talk and has no basis
@PingPong I am not familiar with “Smerconish.” I have so much work, so I am going to have to add that as a “task” to check on next weekend. To be clear though… Trump is not a “leader.” He is far too divisive and unnecessarily so. His budgets have been horrible – but they have been bipartisan budgets passed by a “kick the can down the road” and irresponsible Congress. That said… Biden and Sanders are just weak and horrible… I have to stop listening…
Blue,
Healthcare has many complex elements.Ā Yes Trump should have undone the O Biden / Bama rules faster.Ā Also requires industry to act and once again getting past the O Biden / Bama rules was a mess.Ā Trump should have cleaned up their mess sooner
He is getting it done
I was hoping that the 2 candidates would be sitting and talking.Ā Would be more interesting. So, I’m not watching it.
No, Ping itās not TDS. Thatās a deflection. Itās opposition to tRump position on immigrants who happen to be brown skinned and a principled disagreement with his draconian policy position that not only tolerated but relished family separation and separated confinement.Ā
There may not be a convention in July. Ā There will be fewer jobs. Ā Less personal wealth. Ā More marginalized folks. Ā Folks who said others didnāt need food stamps and Medicaid may now need those things themselves. Ā Ā Trump has hidden from responsibility his entire, entitled life. Ā He refuses to take responsibility for any negative outcome that resulted from his inaction and outright lies. Ā The Republicans in office backed you this orange abomination. Ā Trumpās plague. Ā Trumpās plague. Ā Trumpās plague.
Micheal
Micheal Smerconish is the only reasonable program on CNN and is on Saturday am.Ā Ā
Craig,Ā Hope all is well.Ā No news tonight and no change.Ā Set up for O Biden.
Trump four more Years
Good night
Bernieās slipping further into angry old man mode and is ignoring what Joeās saying. Bernieās going down an unrealistic path that assumes the US can force China, India, etc. to do what climate scientists suggest. Sorry, but we canāt do that.Ā
Mike Pence, prepare to have your ass dumped for Nikki Hayley.
Who would run with Bernie except Tulsi Gabbard? Ā Ā
NYC schools are closing, so the Y is closing all after school programs. Ā What are folks gonna do with their kiddos if they have to work?
what a diligent and committed fascist you are, Pong
BID=heāll dump Pence for Ivanka. His minions Winn go nuts over it.Ā
Bernie, the question is why your message isnāt resonating with black voters. Answer the question before you pivot please.Ā
Ā āWhat are folks gonna do with their kiddos if they have to work?ā
Coronavirus does not give a f*** about our scheduling conflicts.
Turns out my son’s the medical director for parts of pulmonary units in 2 NYC hospitals. His concern is daycare for medical personnel. I suggested that their foundation do the leg work to set up an in houseĀ daycare for their medical people. There would be details to work out.Ā Probably someone will say no, anyhow.
I have a high school friend who thinks the virus is some sort of conspiracy. Nutty stuff. Something about it no one’s telling us. So, what difference does that make now? It’s here, and we have to deal with it.
BiD & Bink. The answer to that is partially answered by the fact that the emergency funding stopped short by providing that employers of 54% of US workers are not required to provide paid Family and Medical Leave Act leave. Mnuchin at work to protect large employers- Chief among them – Walmart and Amazon. The answer is in large part a lack of the administration to take steps necessary to address this crisis.Ā
Biden won the night, hands down. I am looking to a Wednesday suspension of Bernieās campaign unless his staff are as delusional about this debate and the delegate math as he is about the support nationally for his revolution.Ā
Biden should just start conducting himself as if he were President already, because we need real leadership, immediately.
Pong must be from Oblivia. trump is underwater in TX, and w/o TX, trump is off to prison – or putin. Squads of roughnecks with pink slips are dazedly wandering around the oil patch. trump is toast.
20 years to life ! (w/o parole !)Ā
Craig & VB
I’ve been saying from the beginning that we were going to end up in the old folks home.Ā The VP must be a minimum of 20 years younger. Ā
I liked Craig’s idea of Michelle Lujan Grisham, Gov of New Mexico.Ā Harris would be a good SCOTUS appointment if she wanted it or Senate Leader if we can take it back.
Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) (@JoeBiden) tweeted at 9:10 PM on Sun, Mar 15, 2020:
My running mate will be a woman.
The good news is that a lot of Republicans are waking up to the fact that their administration and its surrogates lied to them over life-and-death matters for two months straight.
iām repeating my Michelle prediction, now, for future gloating opportunities, later.
Ā
-legal background
-rockstar status
-WH exposure
-Obama magic
-Person of Color (i hate that term, sorry)
-previous policy positions vindicated over time
-under 60 years old
pogo – My company is one of those businesses that falls below the threshold to require paid FMLA. Ā Unless everything shuts down, we can not and have any hope of surviving. Ā All of the superstores have delivery requirements and they donāt care if thereās a blizzard or a hurricane. Ā Huge, ridiculous fines if product doesnāt show up on time. Ā Itās doubtful theyāll make an exception for a pandemic. Ā Ā Itās their cash cow.
Send your congressperson an email tomorrow expressing your concerns, BiD
President Donald Trump on Sunday night praised the Federal Reserveās surprise move to cut interest rates to near zero…ā¦.. Ā Appearing in the White House briefing room just minutes after the Fedās announcement, Trump said he was āvery happyā with the action and that people in the market should be āthrilled.ā
And wasĀ the market ever thrilled as the futures market promptly went down the limit with a 1000pt drop in DOW futures That is as low as it can go until live trading starts in the morning.Ā
Wanna bet thatĀ they trip the circuit breakers again for the 3rd time this month.
Jack
No convention, though, right? Ā The convention industry, setting up the big trade shows in Vegas, Atlanta, etc., thatās another industry thatās going to take it on the chin.Ā
Biden did sound like a president the other night.Ā Calm, honest, empatheticĀ = nice.Ā
I still predict another TARP = corporate welfare, again.Ā Nuttin for we the people who need it…hourly folks, etc.Ā Grim.
The dictator and toadies come across as more and more incompetent.Ā The dictator has NO management skills! It’s glaring!Ā
Before the Ides of March, Caesar was an emperor now he is a salad.Ā Beware
John FugelsangĀ
Now my son reports that schools, gyms are closed andĀ elective surgery cancelled in NYC.Ā All good things, IMO.
Substitute Teachers working “on call” may fall through the cracks as well.Ā Anyone who depends on tips for majority of their income.Ā Lots of people not covered.Ā If you are going with Yang plan of guaranteed income, now would be the time to do it at least temporarily.
Biden will choose Warren for VP.Ā
That will allow him to position himself as the “moderate” and she can comfort the suspicious left.
NEW: Democratic primary voters back Joe Biden over Sen. Sanders 61% to 32%, according to a new NBC/WSJ poll.
Nash, I’d welcome Warren as a VP choice but I worry about reducing our ranks in the Senate, especially with a Republican governor in Massachusetts who would appoint her successor.Ā
Harris and Klobuchar have Democratic governors, would be safer, but still I’d rather not endanger senate numbers and pick a woman elsewhere.
Re-watched debate, gotta say it was striking Bernie is so stuck on his 40 years of talking points. His answer to everything from income inequality to coronavirus to is a vague Medicare-For-All plan he never could even get to a vote in CongressĀ
He’ll want a female Veep from a largish purple state : TX, OH, GA, NC, or FL.
Biden pledging to pick a woman. Those heās mentioned or likely to be considered:Ā
Amy KlobucharĀ
Kamala HarrisĀ
Elizabeth WarrenĀ
Stacey AbramsĀ
Catherine Cortez MastoĀ
Jeanne ShaheenĀ
Maggie HassanĀ
Sally YatesĀ
Gretchen WhitmerĀ
Michelle Lujan Grisham
So, CC, out of that list, who is your pick, imagining you are Biden, himself?
iāll be so sad if covid cancels my Tame Impala concertš
My Take on The Veep Picture
Abrams – GA (43; no family)
Keisha Lance Bottoms – GA
Yates – GA (near perfect)
Sarah Fontenot – TX (63; too old?)
Carol Browner – FL (65; too old ?)
Katherine Castor – FL (not as perfect as Yates)
Kate Gallego – AZ (38!)
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Whitmer – MI (but Gov for only one year : still green)
Lujan Grisham – NM (but Gov for only one year : still green)
Warren, Klobuchar, Cortez Masto, Hassan, Shaheen and Harris are needed in the Senate
Bink, I’d go with Michelle Lujan Grisham. Latina governor out west. Yes!Ā
I like Lujan Grisham as a Veep. But, she doesn’t bring a large purple-ish state to the campaign.
Or, does she ?Ā
Q: Can excitement over MLG candidacy spread to, and win, in TX or FL ?
Sally Yates brings suburban white women, and expertise on trump’s russian sell-out. She nullifies trump’s bragging about his strong national defense – an important issue in the small town South and Heartland.Ā
Don’t get too focused on geography. Demographics matter more.
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CDC recommends no gathering of 50 people for the next eight weeks, but the recommendation does not apply to schools and businesses. So only if there are 50 people gathered for non-business or non-educational purposes, they shouldnāt get together. How stupid. Either the recommendation should apply to all gatherings and 50 people, assuming that thereās some basis in fact rather than pulling that number out of someoneās ass, for the next eight weeks, assuming some basis in fact rather than pulling that number out of someoneās ass, or it shouldnāt. My gut says it should apply across the board. Otherwise it will be marginally effective at best.Ā But Iām not an immunologist, so what my gut says doesnāt mean shit.
If Ireland can close pubs for 2 weeks, why canāt we? Ā Ā
PA governor taking this pretty damn serious. Schools closed until end of month. In 4 Philly collar counties, “non-essential” businesses are closed until further notice, including bars. Restaurants can do take-out/delivery. Grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, and healthcare services deemed essential. People are organizing to help older neighbors, hourly workers, buying gift certificates for local retailers to use when they re-open, etc. Yesterday, feed store had “flatten the curve” posters throughout the store. Interesting times we are living in.
I hope both candidates appear presidential
Biden is the best looking of the remaining candidates not too mention way better looking then SFB
So far in New York City: A lot of businesses, most of the colleges, all of the museums (including the one I work at), broadway — But the public schools have been left open. I know a lot of New Jersey has issued a curfew for bars (9/10 pm) — It hasn’t happened here.Ā
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KGC… Ā lol! Ā SFB is the ugliest… inside and out.
Dems Last Chance,
Joe needs to be friendlier, not try to out anger Bernie, who owns that space.Ā
Good Answer O Biden on Italy
Bernie,
You could turn this point on not being prepared on O Biden as they went through N1 H1 and did NOTHING to help prepare for the next event.Ā It has nothing to do with who pays what.
It is also why Trump is Correct as O Biden / BamaĀ DID NOTHING TO GET US READY
Bernieās irrelevance shining throughĀ
Obama established the WH office for pandemic management, headed by scientists. SFB shut it down, waited until his prodigious gut told him to put science denier Pence in place to lead the effort, backed up by the Secretary of the fucking Treasury. Donāt try to sell that crap.Ā
Pong, trumputin had 3 years to get ready, including 2 years with majorities in the Senate and House : total repub failure.
Nothing subtle about Biden and tonight sadly I have to agree with Craig about Bernie
Crazy was so worried about Mexican disease that he let Chinese & Italian disease in. He deserves it.
Pong, trump owns the corona virus and all the associated cadavers, too. Pro-life, my ass.
So far Biden is focused, Bernie is tilting at windmills.Ā
President Cray Cray will make the fed give away money if the stock market tanksĀ
Pogo… you nailed it!
X Rep????
Great Trump shut China down and was called many ugly names???Ā And O Biden is in the pocket of the ChineseĀ
Craig
Agree,Ā Bernie is not showing well,Ā O Biden is doing much better
Pogo,Ā We are a republic and industry was still stifled by the O Biden/ Bama red tape.Ā
Our boys should have gotten together beforehand to agree on how best to ream the crazy baseturd out. Make it a ‘who can ream the republican mob nastiest’ event.
Pong, horseshit. That is a talking point that even if true has nothing to do with the topics addressed tonight.Ā Thatās called a pivot.
Fact
US 3499 .000001 of population
France 4512 .000067Ā Much higher then USA
GermanyĀ 5795Ā Ā .000069Ā close to France and much higher then USA
ItalyĀ Oh MY
THANK YOU DONALD AND YOUR GREAT SCIENCE TEAM FOR GOOD DECISIONS
Pong, 2 little 2 late. The NSA knew about the epidemic in Wuhan in mid-November from tapping commie Chinese social media. (But of course trump doesn’t read any reports; he knows it all without any actual information.) By the time trump got around to admitting that he’d lied about it being a hoax, Seattle and NYC were crawling with cofeve19.
tds = trump disease snafu
I havenāt heard of anyone calling Fatass the mulligan president racist over his Coronavirus China policy. I think he made it up. Ā Gee why would I think heās a liar
Pogo
We are a republic and thank God we are!!!Ā What we need in my town is much different then what they need outside of NY City.Ā Ā
Nice to see that you are so happy about Americans dying of trump’s plague. For awhile people thought you were ‘pro-life.’ Nice to know that you have no concern about American lives. Except ‘great trump,’ of course.
TDS
TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME
FOUR MORE YEARS !
Do you watch Smerconish on CNN, The only Journalist on CNN, and watch yesterdays program.Ā 4 more years
X – ???
No one is happy about anyone that is impacted, we are in the best of the worst situation.Ā that is fact and because of the action taken by President Trump.Ā I am an optimist and hopeful for the best.Ā And yes,Ā At some point it is wrong to allow life to be taken.Ā
Watching this debate feels like my Dad’s assisted living dining room.Ā
The trump plague. It’s fitting. I think that’s what we should call it until it’s written up that way in the Texas history books. Cofeve19 is sooooo passe.Ā
Ya, Pong, your town doesn’t need water, streets, sewers, police, hospitals, schools, fire dep’t, or any of that other communistic NYC stuff. Your town can survive on nothing.Ā
Is this a set up to help O Biden look good?Ā The 4th Estate is playing with us
X,Ā I am watching the debate.Ā Ā And my town and state does a great job
Have a good evening
I watched Smerconish today. 4 more years? Ā BS.Ā
Yes weāre a Republic. You show me any difference in position among the republicans in the House and those in the senate and Iāll buy your argument. There is no law, rule or regulation emanating from the federal government that will solve every problem of every community, but the federal government can fund local efforts that local governments canāt. Youāre conflating local efforts with federal directives and funding. You tell me why Mnuchin and idiot Kudlow have anything to do with coronavirus response and guidance. Bumper sticker sayings and false equivalences arenāt argument. But they suffice in tRumpworld.Ā
tds = trump disease snafuĀ
4 more years ? How ’bout 20 years to life ?
“THANK YOU DONALD AND YOUR GREAT SCIENCE TEAM FOR GOOD DECISIONS” – Pong celebrates the trump plague
“No one is happy about anyone that is impacted” – Pong pretending he’s soulful
“And yes,Ā At some point it is wrong to allow life to be taken. ” – pong, fake pro-lifer
Biden. Ā Good answer on voting for each other.Ā
Bernie also good but not looking as presidentialĀ
“And my town and state does a great job” – Pong, on the most corrupt town and state in America
Sorry, palm beach is the most corrupt.
Pogo,Ā Did you see the next to last segment on the focus groups from those that had been Obama vs Obiden voters that switched to MAGA Trump, and that today based on the two that you are watching today, Those voters will stay with MAGA Trump.
It is over
Biden looks good, got him haircut, looks fit and acts 20 years younger than Bernie.Ā
And next to Trump he will roll.Ā
Jack
New Orleans and all of Louisiana
Despite the inevitability of it devolving into an argument…To which I uttered “Grandpas are fighting”…A complement to the strange quality of making sure both candidates were healthy (Was anyone else uncomfortable?) – I agree that Biden did give a strong final quip.Ā
KCG,
How are you?
Agree Biden is looking the best.
Pong, Iām doing something I seldom do and reposting something I put up before.Ā
This guy is smarter than you, me and at least a couple more people combined. He said the federal government could see the problem coming at least a month ago and just did nothing to prevent travelers from returning from Italy and Korea, two of the biggest hotspots. Trump diddled and contradicted his own fucking experts. Itās trumpās albatross in sharp focus. If youād likery or grape let me know.Ā
Pfffft. Ā Mnuchin wonāt even admit weāre in a recession. Ā Trump talks out both sides of his gob, contradicting what medical experts tell him. Ā Pence is is a worthless suck-up. Ā Ā Funny thing is, Trumpās lemmings are actually following him over the cliff. Ā SFB says itās no big deal so Repugz, like the Gov of OK takes his family to a restaurant and brags about how packed it is. Ā Ā Dems are taking this seriously. Ā Trump plague will kill off his supporters. Ā #trumpāsplague
Pogo
No disagreement – This is a crazy situation with Covid-19 and we all must come together.Ā Good things are happening and i am hopeful that we come through.Ā I hope all on this thread are wellĀ
Watching these two is sad…
Sanders does not know what real leadership is, because he has never led anything successfully in his life. I do agree with Biden in that if you can make changes to something that is going to pass to make it better – you do it. Just voting “No” all the time does not get anything accomplished.
As for Biden… He is just an old politician. The bailout to the banks was done on the hope they would lend – and they did not. It was the Democrats and Republicans who allowed the mortgage crisis to happen, and then left consumers out to dry. The Obama spending and regulation increases slowed the recovery.
I did find it amusing though that in the pitch to people who vote for Sanders he calls supporters of Bernie Sanders “followers” like they are a cult.
Biden’s commitment is to select a woman as a running mate. Elizabeth Warren will be that choice.
Time to turn this off and get back to work.
Yeah… didnāt think Iād feel this way…. Ā BUT… Ā it was better when there was 10 candidates on that stage.
Michael,
Your comments are in line to the report on Smerconish this AM that none of these two are considered to be leaders.Ā To all on this thread, go watch it.
It is overĀ
Trump 2020
@RebelliousRenee Yes! Agreed!
I think Bernie just took a little stroll down the Pacific Coast HighwayĀ
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Do the moderators realize that everything has changed since the last debate, even though it was on the way to our shores? Ā Why didnāt Trump tell the FDA to free up regulations to get testing underway. Ā This morning, the doc from Boston said the FDA made it possible only yesterday. Ā Ā TrumPence has failed at every level of this health crisis. Ā Amy Klobuchar is working on an act to ensure weāll get to vote in November. Ā Ā Ā
DOG WHISTLEĀ Ā xenophobia
STOP IT – O BidenĀ Ā Ā This is TDS talk and has no basis
@PingPong I am not familiar with “Smerconish.” I have so much work, so I am going to have to add that as a “task” to check on next weekend. To be clear though… Trump is not a “leader.” He is far too divisive and unnecessarily so. His budgets have been horrible – but they have been bipartisan budgets passed by a “kick the can down the road” and irresponsible Congress. That said… Biden and Sanders are just weak and horrible… I have to stop listening…
Blue,
Healthcare has many complex elements.Ā Yes Trump should have undone the O Biden / Bama rules faster.Ā Also requires industry to act and once again getting past the O Biden / Bama rules was a mess.Ā Trump should have cleaned up their mess sooner
He is getting it done
I was hoping that the 2 candidates would be sitting and talking.Ā Would be more interesting. So, I’m not watching it.
No, Ping itās not TDS. Thatās a deflection. Itās opposition to tRump position on immigrants who happen to be brown skinned and a principled disagreement with his draconian policy position that not only tolerated but relished family separation and separated confinement.Ā
There may not be a convention in July. Ā There will be fewer jobs. Ā Less personal wealth. Ā More marginalized folks. Ā Folks who said others didnāt need food stamps and Medicaid may now need those things themselves. Ā Ā Trump has hidden from responsibility his entire, entitled life. Ā He refuses to take responsibility for any negative outcome that resulted from his inaction and outright lies. Ā The Republicans in office backed you this orange abomination. Ā Trumpās plague. Ā Trumpās plague. Ā Trumpās plague.
Micheal
Micheal Smerconish is the only reasonable program on CNN and is on Saturday am.Ā Ā
Craig,Ā Hope all is well.Ā No news tonight and no change.Ā Set up for O Biden.
Trump four more Years
Good night
Bernieās slipping further into angry old man mode and is ignoring what Joeās saying. Bernieās going down an unrealistic path that assumes the US can force China, India, etc. to do what climate scientists suggest. Sorry, but we canāt do that.Ā
Mike Pence, prepare to have your ass dumped for Nikki Hayley.
Who would run with Bernie except Tulsi Gabbard? Ā Ā
NYC schools are closing, so the Y is closing all after school programs. Ā What are folks gonna do with their kiddos if they have to work?
what a diligent and committed fascist you are, Pong
BID=heāll dump Pence for Ivanka. His minions Winn go nuts over it.Ā
Bernie, the question is why your message isnāt resonating with black voters. Answer the question before you pivot please.Ā
Ā āWhat are folks gonna do with their kiddos if they have to work?ā
Coronavirus does not give a f*** about our scheduling conflicts.
Turns out my son’s the medical director for parts of pulmonary units in 2 NYC hospitals. His concern is daycare for medical personnel. I suggested that their foundation do the leg work to set up an in houseĀ daycare for their medical people. There would be details to work out.Ā Probably someone will say no, anyhow.
I have a high school friend who thinks the virus is some sort of conspiracy. Nutty stuff. Something about it no one’s telling us. So, what difference does that make now? It’s here, and we have to deal with it.
BiD & Bink. The answer to that is partially answered by the fact that the emergency funding stopped short by providing that employers of 54% of US workers are not required to provide paid Family and Medical Leave Act leave. Mnuchin at work to protect large employers- Chief among them – Walmart and Amazon. The answer is in large part a lack of the administration to take steps necessary to address this crisis.Ā
Biden won the night, hands down. I am looking to a Wednesday suspension of Bernieās campaign unless his staff are as delusional about this debate and the delegate math as he is about the support nationally for his revolution.Ā
Biden should just start conducting himself as if he were President already, because we need real leadership, immediately.
Pong must be from Oblivia. trump is underwater in TX, and w/o TX, trump is off to prison – or putin. Squads of roughnecks with pink slips are dazedly wandering around the oil patch. trump is toast.
20 years to life ! (w/o parole !)Ā
Craig & VB
I’ve been saying from the beginning that we were going to end up in the old folks home.Ā The VP must be a minimum of 20 years younger. Ā
I liked Craig’s idea of Michelle Lujan Grisham, Gov of New Mexico.Ā Harris would be a good SCOTUS appointment if she wanted it or Senate Leader if we can take it back.
Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) (@JoeBiden) tweeted at 9:10 PM on Sun, Mar 15, 2020:
My running mate will be a woman.
The good news is that a lot of Republicans are waking up to the fact that their administration and its surrogates lied to them over life-and-death matters for two months straight.
iām repeating my Michelle prediction, now, for future gloating opportunities, later.
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-legal background
-rockstar status
-WH exposure
-Obama magic
-Person of Color (i hate that term, sorry)
-previous policy positions vindicated over time
-under 60 years old
pogo – My company is one of those businesses that falls below the threshold to require paid FMLA. Ā Unless everything shuts down, we can not and have any hope of surviving. Ā All of the superstores have delivery requirements and they donāt care if thereās a blizzard or a hurricane. Ā Huge, ridiculous fines if product doesnāt show up on time. Ā Itās doubtful theyāll make an exception for a pandemic. Ā Ā Itās their cash cow.
Send your congressperson an email tomorrow expressing your concerns, BiD
And wasĀ the market ever thrilled as the futures market promptly went down the limit with a 1000pt drop in DOW futures That is as low as it can go until live trading starts in the morning.Ā
Wanna bet thatĀ they trip the circuit breakers again for the 3rd time this month.
Jack
No convention, though, right? Ā The convention industry, setting up the big trade shows in Vegas, Atlanta, etc., thatās another industry thatās going to take it on the chin.Ā
Biden did sound like a president the other night.Ā Calm, honest, empatheticĀ = nice.Ā
I still predict another TARP = corporate welfare, again.Ā Nuttin for we the people who need it…hourly folks, etc.Ā Grim.
The dictator and toadies come across as more and more incompetent.Ā The dictator has NO management skills! It’s glaring!Ā
Now my son reports that schools, gyms are closed andĀ elective surgery cancelled in NYC.Ā All good things, IMO.
Substitute Teachers working “on call” may fall through the cracks as well.Ā Anyone who depends on tips for majority of their income.Ā Lots of people not covered.Ā If you are going with Yang plan of guaranteed income, now would be the time to do it at least temporarily.
Biden will choose Warren for VP.Ā
That will allow him to position himself as the “moderate” and she can comfort the suspicious left.
NEW: Democratic primary voters back Joe Biden over Sen. Sanders 61% to 32%, according to a new NBC/WSJ poll.
Nash, I’d welcome Warren as a VP choice but I worry about reducing our ranks in the Senate, especially with a Republican governor in Massachusetts who would appoint her successor.Ā
Harris and Klobuchar have Democratic governors, would be safer, but still I’d rather not endanger senate numbers and pick a woman elsewhere.
Re-watched debate, gotta say it was striking Bernie is so stuck on his 40 years of talking points. His answer to everything from income inequality to coronavirus to is a vague Medicare-For-All plan he never could even get to a vote in CongressĀ
He’ll want a female Veep from a largish purple state : TX, OH, GA, NC, or FL.
Biden pledging to pick a woman. Those heās mentioned or likely to be considered:Ā
Amy KlobucharĀ
Kamala HarrisĀ
Elizabeth WarrenĀ
Stacey AbramsĀ
Catherine Cortez MastoĀ
Jeanne ShaheenĀ
Maggie HassanĀ
Sally YatesĀ
Gretchen WhitmerĀ
Michelle Lujan Grisham
So, CC, out of that list, who is your pick, imagining you are Biden, himself?
netanyahu is now in deeper trouble
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/israels-opposition-head-benny-gantz-wins-support-to-form-government
iāll be so sad if covid cancels my Tame Impala concertš
My Take on The Veep Picture
Abrams – GA (43; no family)
Keisha Lance Bottoms – GA
Yates – GA (near perfect)
Sarah Fontenot – TX (63; too old?)
Carol Browner – FL (65; too old ?)
Katherine Castor – FL (not as perfect as Yates)
Kate Gallego – AZ (38!)
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Whitmer – MI (but Gov for only one year : still green)
Lujan Grisham – NM (but Gov for only one year : still green)
Warren, Klobuchar, Cortez Masto, Hassan, Shaheen and Harris are needed in the Senate
Bink, I’d go with Michelle Lujan Grisham. Latina governor out west. Yes!Ā
Deadly Clown Is Watching You
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/chinese-executive-who-called-xi-a-clown-over-coronavirus-response-is-missing
I like Lujan Grisham as a Veep. But, she doesn’t bring a large purple-ish state to the campaign.
Or, does she ?Ā
Q: Can excitement over MLG candidacy spread to, and win, in TX or FL ?
Sally Yates brings suburban white women, and expertise on trump’s russian sell-out. She nullifies trump’s bragging about his strong national defense – an important issue in the small town South and Heartland.Ā
Don’t get too focused on geography. Demographics matter more.
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