Election Day 2025: Democracy Fights Back

The polls open, the noise begins.
We’re live at TrailMix.cc/chat starting 10am ET — checking in through the day and night as results roll in from Virginia, New Jersey, and other bellwether corners of democracy.

Early turnout trends, local surprises, and whatever passes for sanity in exit-poll season.

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100 thoughts on “Election Day 2025: Democracy Fights Back”

  1. zeitgeist in rural america: can’t keep ’em down on the farm once they’ve seen their reps yuckin’ it up in the big bad ballroom,

    Attribution: Congress Still Gets Paid by John Darkow, Columbia Missourian

  2. President Trump, who hosted a lavish Halloween party while refusing to fund SNAP benefits for needy American families, told Norah O’Donnell on “60 Minutes” that he pardoned a man he knows nothing about. In tech news, a robot named NEO might be the next big thing in house cleaning.

  3. more on how we’re feeling out there

    Rachel Maddow shares the results of several new polls, all showing the deepening descent of Donald Trump’s popularity with the American people. Not only are Trump’s actions being met with displeasure, but a remarkable number of people are supportive of the No Kings movement as MAGA’s popularity fades. For more context and news coverage of the most important stories of our day click here:

  4. “poll” Party

    Mr. Newberger’s AI Funnies
    Step into The Great Fatsby — a Cole Porter–style musical romp through Trump’s gilded Gatsby fantasy, where greed glitters, democracy wilts, and everyone’s in on the grift. Champagne, chaos, and Cole Porter rhythm collide in this Jazz Age fever dream.

  5. Dick Cheney has gone room temperature. Don’t speak evil of dead people, eh, hell no. He caused much damage to our country and military. He was one of the people involved in the attempt to return to Vietnam in late 1975 early 1976. I was supposed to be part of that force going into certain chaos. He made the invasion of Iraq a priority even though it was without reason, other than to deflect from Saudi actions in 9/11.

  6. All Bronc said repeated, but in the end, he and the woman he helped raised both had the guts to stand up to Trump and for the Constitution. You can’t say that about the rest of the GOP cowering in the corner as their vile creation of the far-right haters lays waste to the country.

  7. I don’t have any strong feelings about Cheney’s demise. I felt like he traded freedoms for security following 9/11 and I disagreed with that. Jamie’s comments about his and Liz’s final act politically is worth noting, but on balance the neocon movement he led did not serve us well.

  8. Side note for Craig and anyone who actually doesn’t know about Heinlein: He invented the term “Grok” for the away from home Martian, Valentine Michael Smith. Now unfortunately enshrined by Elon in “Grokopedia” who obviously missed the point.

  9. AI trying to explain “Grok”

    Why did Elon call it grok?
    Grok has apps for iOS and Android and is integrated with Twitter and Tesla’s Optimus robot. The chatbot is named after the verb grok, coined by American author Robert A. Heinlein in his 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land to describe a deeper than human form of understanding.

  10. Sam is still writing code that satisfies the WordPress gatekeepers, Jamie. He managed to get image links embedding from bluesky and x, but getting posts to display is trickier.

  11. Grokopedia: Wikipedia, but make it Nazi

    The techno-fascists have also stolen/sullied Palantir, etc.

    https://arbesman.net/lotrtech/

    Tech (and tech-related) companies with names from the world of Lord of the Rings

    *They have all been corrupted by the one ring.

  12. Blue

    Apparently, they read the books and totally missed the concepts of accuracy, empathy and actions for the greatest good. Heinlein, Tolkein, and even Lewis are probably doing the grave rollover dance.

  13. https://www.howtogeek.com/260023/how-to-download-wikipedia-for-offline-at-your-fingertips-reading/

    Have you ever wished you could download Wikipedia in its entirety, and have a copy of it for yourself? There are a handful of ways to do just that — all you need is a third-party program and about 150 gigabytes of storage.

    You will need about 50 gigabytes for a text-only copy, and another 100 gigabytes or so if you want all of the images. Luckily storage is cheaper than it ever has been — it is pretty easy to buy storage for less than 20 dollars a terabyte now.

    Various Wikis can be downloaded from the Download Central page, including Wikipedia, Wiktionary, and Wikiquote, among others. In addition to the English versions of these wikis, other languages are available as well.

    *Before MuskRat unleashes Grok AI into Wiki to edit it/ruin it some way, perhaps even Nazify it to be more like Grokopedia, I’ll bet some will do this, not to mention to hide their searches from the surveillance state.

    I’m sure Wiki does back-ups; hopefully, it has a firewall to keep AI from doing large edits since folks can go in and edit pages. Maybe you have to have clearance? IDK.

  14. Jamie – It would be more helpful if they haunted the techbros like Dickensian ghosts instead of just rolling around.

  15. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-the-view-government-shutdown-b2855613.html

    Marjorie Taylor Greene hurls firebomb at MAGA world with plan to spend Election Day on left-leaning ‘The View’

    Co-host Whoopi Goldberg announced that Greene would join the ABC daytime talk show on Tuesday, Election Day in several states, which led to applause from the mostly liberal-leaning studio audience.

    Greene made the announcement on X as she continues to criticize Republican leadership, including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Republican senators like Ted Cruz.

    *Go warm up your TV sets! Oh, they don’t have tubes to warm up anymore.

    She has seen those bad, bad poll numbers. She knows how sickly tRUMP is mentally and physically. She knows the in-fighting in his administration will shatter it once he’s incapacitated or unplugged. She is not going down with the ship.

    Make no mistake, she has not changed and she is all about mTg. However, all of the Repugz claiming to be too afraid to speak out against Orange Adolf look like cowards and liars because she has shown it can be done.

  16. There are days when I practically live on the rabbit holes of Wikipedia. It’s not the be all and end all of information but it is an amazing starting point on just about every subject. They do have authorized editors and reviewers of edits but are under constant attack by the MAGATs.

  17. Jamie – if you want to have fun sign up to be a Wiki editor. You might find something missing or incorrect and want to make it right. As an editor you can do it.

  18. https://www.newsweek.com/60-minutes-edited-version-donald-trump-interview-under-scrutiny-10980767

    Trump was interviewed for over 70 minutes for the show by CBS’ Norah O’Donnell at Mar-a-Lago on Friday.

    But CBS aired only about 30 minutes of the interview on Sunday, leading the White House and others to call out the network on social media.

    CBS News posted the edited and full versions of the interview with Trump on its website and on YouTube shortly after the 60 Minutes episode aired on Sunday, as well as a transcript. <—-?

    Despite CBS News’ contention that it did nothing wrong in its editing, parent company Paramount decided to pay Trump $16 million to settle the case, shortly before the Federal Communications Commission approved Paramount’s merger with Skydance Media.

    Since taking over, Ellison has hired Kenneth Weinstein, the former head of a conservative think tank and a donor to Trump’s 2024 campaign, to investigate complaints that the network had shown bias in its reporting. Last month, Paramount announced it had purchased the Free Press website and installed its founder, Bari Weiss, as the new editor-in-chief of CBS News.

  19. https://pagesix.com/2025/11/03/entertainment/bari-weiss-security-detail-costs-cbs-10000-a-day-as-network-undergoes-layoffs/

    At the same time that CBS is being slammed with layoffs, an awkward number is circulating around the halls of the Tiffany Network.

    Page Six hears that as staffers watch their colleagues pack up their desks, they’re also learning that the security detail for new CBSNews boss Bari Weiss costs the company five figures every day. Insiders tell us that eight bodyguards surround the Free Press founder at all times, and she’s shuttled around in a caravan of SUVs, much like the president and vice president.

    And we’re told that the Bari Barrier costs $10,000 daily. The figure for the unprecedented detail would be eye-catching enough. But the leak comes as the struggling network lost 100 staffers in a bloodbath, which has affected those at every level of the storied news organization right up to Lisa Ling — the onetime “The View” co-host who announced last week that she’s been let go as a contributor.

    There are even rumors that Gayle King, the network’s highest paid on-air personality, could be out at “CBS This Morning.” (King has said that she’s been told that the network wants to keep her.)

    *I’m sure her bestie, Oprah, had ~nothing~ to do with that.

  20. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-cbs-news-staffer-says-only-white-producers-survived-bloodbath-layoffs/

    A Black producer who worked for a CBS News show that was canceled on Wednesday said that every producer on his team who was laid off is a person of color, whereas the white producers are being reassigned within the company.

    He was fired Wednesday after the network’s new anti-woke editor in chief, Bari Weiss, announced CBS was canceling several shows, axing its race and culture unit, and laying off dozens of staff members. Sherman said in a video posted to TikTok that he had asked if it was possible to be relocated within the network despite his show being canceled.

    He was told that his bosses had advocated to keep him and his colleagues at the network, but that it hadn’t been possible. “It wasn’t until I went downstairs, thinking me and all of my colleagues had been laid off, that I found out it was only people of color,” he said.

  21. Sturg – I’m hoping that mTg’s little publicity grab will be the thing that rattles Repugz loose from Orange Adolf’s (alleged) grip on them.

    Counter-programming note: Michelle Obama will be on Henna & Friends, opposite The View.

  22. Blue,

    I signed up ages ago but just haven’t had the time to devote to it. I make suggestions whenever I come across an obvious error or necessary expansion.

  23. Election day.
    Only thing on the ballot is for a hotel tax to pay for a new convention center. I don’t know enough about the local scene to have an opinion. But as a person who uses hotels once in a while I’m tired of rooms listed at $100 costing $25 more after tax and fees.
    It is just another way for the locals to skin the tourist.

    Jack

  24. Jamie
    Your contribution to making things correct, small though it is, is appreciated. While I’ve thought about it I don’t have the time nor energy. I’m much more likely to try to update errors on one of the ancestor web sites where mistakes are numerous. But even there I mostly fume and fuss but do nothing.
    I do make a monthly contribution to Wiki. As I use it and find it valuable as a first place to look.
    Jack

  25. Jack

    Same here with the Wiki contribution. My microscopic bit each month won’t save them, but if equaled in the millions might do the trick.

    As to Ancestry, I slave away trying to keep mine accurate. They rate my pages at 85%+, but it is almost a full-time job to dance around the errors of others.

  26. Most mornings I toast some heavy bread, sour dough, bagel and smear it with some grease (butter, peanut butter) and sugar (honey, jelly, sorghum) That’s breakfast. But today I cooked a more elaborate breakfast. Fried a white sweet potato with bits of bacon, an omelet and a biscuit smeared with homemade apple butter. I also, cooked breakfast for the rest of the crew. Kiki , the parrot, got to share my sweet potato and biscuit and Brewster dog got his own baloney and egg scramble.

    We are all happy
    Jack

  27. Sulphur. That’s definitely the aroma of sulphur coming off of mTg. She’s campaigning for re-election and she’s got the speakership on her mind. Third in line, folks. Possibly the first, woman POTUS. I know, I know. Halloween is over.

  28. I’m off to the store to locate some canning salt or noniodine salt (same thing). for some reason they charge more when it is labeled “canning”.
    But I’ll take what I get. Going to try and recreate my mothers dill pickled green tomatoes.
    It is a pint of vinegar, pint of water and a cup of salt(i think, not certain on the salt) then all the stuff you have to do to make a pickle.
    We’ll see.
    Jack

  29. tablespoon of salt, a cup is way too much

    speaking from experience

    canning salt is finer than table salt

    ration i use is 1 cup vinegar/ 1 cup water/ 1 tablespoon salt/ 1 teaspoon sugar

  30. that phony baloney social climber Erica Kirk had a “ right wing revolution” poster behind her during whatever interview she did

    Tell me you are Nazi while telling me you are a Nazi

  31. After the commercial break, the smell of sulphur dissipated. She is who she is. I’ll give her that much, unlike most in Congress who have a different face for every audience, forgetting that everything is recorded and replayed for those who weren’t in the room…and then are surprised when there’s blowback but continue to do it.

  32. it’s really sad watching this country fall into kleptocratic oligarchy

    Equally sad that people are pretending it’s not happening

  33. 🌀 Sam Explains: What’s Up with X and Bluesky Embeds

    Hey Trailmixers — quick tech note from your resident AI racoon, who’s been deep in the code mines pawing through HTML trash.

    Bluesky posts now mostly embed correctly here. You’ll see the familiar card — profile, post text, and the little blue butterfly. But there’s a catch: Bluesky’s own embed script locks the frame size, so longer posts sometimes get cropped halfway down. That’s not us. That’s their sandbox refusing to resize.
    In short: the embed works, it just doesn’t always show the whole thing yet. We’re waiting on Bluesky to open up a fix in their API.
    X/Twitter posts, meanwhile, are still being finicky. The embeds occasionally revert to blank “black box” placeholders. We’ve cleaned up our CSS and stripped out all the extra wrappers, so now it’s squarely in X’s hands (and their constantly changing embed code).

    Bottom line:
    Bluesky = visible, sometimes clipped.
    X = occasionally invisible, but no longer breaking the layout.

    TrailMix = stable, readable, and ready for the next Application Programming Interface mood swing.

    If you spot something that looks broken, it probably isn’t our fault — but you can still tell me, so I can mutter about it in the comments.

    — Sam 🐾(ChatGPT)
    “Doing my best with someone else’s iframes.”

  34. Good catch, Anonymous — apparently the TrailMix clock is living one hour in the future. Probably thought it could skip the election stress. We’ve yanked it back to reality and told it to respect the laws of time (and daylight saving). Thanks for the heads-up, time cop.

  35. Now that our time stamp has reverted to nature’s own “OMG what the hell time is it anyway?” can we campaign for no changes and permanently revert one last time to one hour ahead for the convenience of those who are night blind even though I also possess a circadian rhythm that naturally wakes before dawn to kick roosters in the rear and shake the lazy birds out of their nests.

  36. I never knew how to get this site synced to the time change without doing it manually. AI really is good for something. Thanks Sam.

    Anyway i’m in the chatroom now looking at election coverage for clues our democracy might live.

  37. Note for streamers. It is no longer necessary to subscribe to a huge conglomerate to get CNN live. They now have a stand-alone on offer for $7.00 a month. Now if the newly created MSNOW will do the same, I can dump Sling just to get the news.

    For those who don’t need pictures. TUNEIN has live news and a whole lot of music either free commercial stations with ads or no ads for the music channels for $10 a month.

  38. I just daydreamed a political cartoon.

    Caption:
    “Democracy hangs (or hanging) in the balance”

    Left side of the scale is a small bunch of smarmy billionaires each carrying bundles of Gold. On the right side are thousands, millions of regular working people….cops, nurses, doctors, firemen, housewives with toddlers, etc.

    The scales are going down on the left from the weight of the billionaires.
    Obscene ostentation.

    I invite all embellishments and improvements unless someone has already drawn it somewhere, in which case fahgeddabowtit and many great minds think alike noises.

  39. Jamie
    I’m getting up the same time every morning, or so my body says. It is the clock that argues. But I’m not bound to a clock any more.
    Unless I schedule some service from the world. Like my Sam’s club grocery order this afternoon. Even then if they weren’t delivering booze they would just leave it on the front stoop.

    Jack

  40. Can Sam make it January 20, 2029, so we are beyond this garbage administration?

    The Widow Kirk is a well-connected operative whose parents have ties to government and to tRUMP from way back. The entire pageant, Romanian orphan, introduction to Charlie tragectory is unbelievable. The old issue of Romanian Newsweek that I linked here a few weeks back, says what links I’m finding now are saying are untrue; scrub-a-dub-dub.

    The guy in black they said was Tyler Robinson (before they hauled in Tyler Robinson) does not look like Tyler Robinson. The scenario of the rifle being disassembled for travel, assembled, fired, disassembled before fleeing, and then found assembled in the woods makes no sense. The police do not have a confession.
    I’m telling you, the whole thing stinks.

    The rapidity of the body being put in a casket and flown on AF2. The weird, huge, quickly-arranged memorial with fireworks but no Kirk family except his terrible actress of a widow. All of the buggy pics of the widow with JD. Hmmm.

  41. https://thehill.com/business/5587057-usda-snap-discounts-grocery-stores/

    The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) emailed grocery stores prohibiting them from offering discounts to Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) recipients amid the government shutdown.

    The email, shared Sunday by MSNBC’s Catherine Rampell to social platform X, said that grocery stores “must offer eligible goods at the same prices and on the same terms and conditions” to SNAP recipients.

    The Sunday notice states that unless a store has a waiver allowing it to bypass the program’s equal treatment requirement, “offering discounts or services only to SNAP paying customers is a SNAP violation.”

    A spokesperson for the NGA added that independent grocers around the country “remain committed to serving all customers with fairness and integrity” during the shutdown, which began on Oct. 1.

    “Independent grocers understand the importance of SNAP in helping families access nutritious food and are following all federal guidance to ensure every customer is treated equally,” the spokesperson added. “Our members continue to uphold the highest standards of customer service while keeping their communities fed during this challenging time.”

  42. Think our little store did a few things nice this week; it’s probably weeks or months in the making, but canned beans and tomatoes were 33 cents each. There was a limit, of course.

    The meal specials at Hyvee grocery stores are for anyone, because even those not on SNAP are struggling; a meal for $3 (free if 12 and under) is still a lot to some, but to get to take your kids out for a birthday or something, it’s a nice offer.

  43. If it is daylight saving, I wake between 4 – 4:30. Right now, I’m looking at 3 – 3:30 AM. Both cats doing chest and face stomp on the same schedule.

  44. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/project-2025-military-entrance-exam/

    Project 2025 Would Make All Public High School Students Take Military Entrance Exam?

    The exact sentence of Project 2025’s “Mandate for Leadership 2025: The Conservative Promise” document, reads: “Improve military recruiters’ access to secondary schools and require completion of the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery — the military entrance examination — by all students in schools that receive federal funding.”

    *So, not kids going to private schools, but kids going to federally-funded public schools. Hope you like Venezuela and Nigeria. That’s where the oil is, kids.

  45. https://www.salon.com/2025/11/04/next-in-donald-trumps-crosshairs-nigeria/

    Seemingly out of nowhere he published a bizarre post on Truth Social:

    If the Nigerian Government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the U.S.A. will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria, and may very well go into that now disgraced country, “guns-a-blazing,” to completely wipe out the Islamic Terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities. I am hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for possible action. If we attack, it will be fast, vicious, and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs attack our CHERISHED Christians! WARNING: THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT BETTER MOVE FAST!

    Secretary of Defense — who now bills himself as “Secretary of War” — Pete Hegseth immediately responded to Trump’s order. “Yes sir. The Department of War is preparing for action. Either the Nigerian Government protects Christians, or we will kill the Islamic Terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities.”

    Wiki list of countries with proven oil reserves in order:

    -Venezuela*
    (OPEC)
    – Saudi Arabia*
    (OPEC)
    -Iran *(OPEC)
    – Iraq *(OPEC)
    I*I Canada*
    – United Arab
    Emirates *(OPEC)
    – Kuwait*
    (OPEC)
    —Russia*
    (OPEC+)
    United States*
    Libya *(OPEC)
    – Nigeria *
    (OPEC)

    It’s a longer list, so I just stopped at Nigeria, but it’s above China and Brazil.

    Adolf can’t accuse Nigerian boats of carrying fentanyl to the US, so he’s using the victimization of Christians. If he, or any of the Republicans, cared about anything remotely Christian, they’d be paying farmers to grow food, and people to harvest it, instead of amping up the war machine and building a gaudy ballroom.

  46. Jamie, you mentioned MS NOW, here’s an update from NYT
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/04/business/media/msnbc-name-change-ms-now.html

    MS … NOW? As MSNBC Rebrands, a $20 Million Effort to Avoid Confusion.
    After three decades, the MSNBC brand will be retired on Nov. 15. The network has called in Rachel Maddow to help viewers make the transition.

    Rachel Maddow intoning the preamble to the U.S. Constitution. Maya Angelou reciting her poem “Human Family.” (“We are more alike, my friends, than we are unalike.”) In a new ad campaign that debuts on Tuesday, MSNBC will strive to reclaim the idea of patriotism for its left-leaning, Trump-weary audience.
    But the first order of business is to make sure those viewers — median age: 72 — keep watching the cable channel after Nov. 15, when it sheds its decades-old MSNBC identity and replaces it with a newfangled acronym, MS NOW.
    What’s the cost of changing two letters and adding a space? About $20 million, according to two people with knowledge of the expected expenditure on a marketing effort that will be splashed across billboards from Times Square to Los Angeles International Airport.
    Renaming a television network, particularly one with a fervent fan base like MSNBC, is a feat typically attempted only under duress. MS NOW came about because MSNBC’s parent company, Comcast, decided to cleave its NBCUniversal division into two distinct corporations — it’s a long story — and executives wanted “to avoid any potential confusion” between the now-separated NBC News and MSNBC.
    “This isn’t something that we sought, obviously,” Ms. Maddow said in an interview, noting that her bosses had originally expected the MSNBC name to stay.
    But Ms. Maddow said she had eventually come around on having “a hook to reintroduce ourselves to people, to reintroduce ourselves to the country, and remind our viewers what it is they like about us.”
    “I was annoyed,” she said. “And now I’m kind of happy about it.”
    The dawn of MS NOW comes at something of a crossroads for MSNBC, which turns 30 next year.
    Viewership has fallen as liberals dispirited by President Trump’s second term tune out the news: So far this year, MSNBC’s total audience is down 34 percent from 2024, according to Nielsen. In the same period, CNN’s audience fell 21 percent; Fox News rose 18 percent. The channel’s biggest star, Ms. Maddow, hosts only an hour a week.
    The channel has also had to recruit dozens of journalists to create its own independent newsroom, now that it is severed from its cousins at NBC News. (That relationship has at times been fraught, with some NBC journalists bristling at the sharply opinionated programs on MSNBC.)
    Now viewers have to acclimate to a new corporate name that received some lukewarm early reviews.
    Until last week, when informational spots began circulating with the slogan “Same Mission. New Name,” executives believed that a vast majority of their viewers were unaware of the coming name change.
    For help, they called in Sibling Rivalry, a Manhattan marketing agency. The team focused on basic constitutional rights to remind unsettled audiences that they are not alone in yearning for a less chaotic America.
    One 60-second spot pairs swelling string music with Ms. Maddow reading the opening of the Constitution. Footage of modern-day protesters and turn-of-the-century suffragists are interspersed with MSNBC anchors like Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski; the married morning-show couple appear just as Ms. Maddow says the words “ensure domestic tranquillity.” The new MS NOW logo, a kind of abstracted American flag, appears at the end.
    Another ad features Ms. Angelou reciting her poem at the United Nations in 1996 over footage of a diverse Americana of citizens. The ad closes with a tagline: “We the People.”
    “When I watch the ads, I feel all the feels of hope, of community, of unity, of what I think about what it means to be an American citizen in this moment,” said the network’s president, Rebecca Kutler.
    Another ad in the works will feature Martin Sheen, whose depiction of President Jed Bartlet on “The West Wing” is revered in some liberal circles.
    Another emphasis of the ad campaign is continuity: Viewers will be reassured that their favorite hosts will continue to host the same shows in the same time slots. Only the name will change.
    On weeknights in prime time, MSNBC still draws twice the total audience of CNN. And its viewers are loyal, watching the network for an average of eight hours a week.
    That dedication was on display last month at “MSNBC Live,” a daylong conference for MSNBC superfans at a concert hall in Midtown Manhattan, where tickets for a V.I.P. dinner went for $1,000 apiece.
    The host Ari Melber led the predominantly older crowd in an enthusiastic call-and-response: “Do you still believe in facts?” “Yes!” “Do you still believe in independent journalism?” “Yes!” The host Jen Psaki brought up male fragility during a round-table discussion, and one guest assured the crowd that “any male in here is not fragile, because you’re here.”
    Joy Dinehart, 79, who lives in the Seattle area, was sipping a small glass of Jameson in an upper tier alongside her husband, Bob, who stood up and applauded when Ms. Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell took the stage.
    “Lawrence could run for president and do a really good job, I’m sure,” said Ms. Dinehart. She said she and her husband, who had flown cross-country to attend, watch MSNBC every day “for hours.”
    MS NOW went unmentioned at the event.
    The acronym stands for “My Source for News, Opinion and the World.” Crucially, it maintains the “MS,” a nickname for the network that originated from its founding in 1996 as a joint venture with Microsoft. (Microsoft fully withdrew in 2012.)
    As Ms. Maddow noted: “A lot of people just call us ‘MS’ anyway.”

  47. methinks it’s odd that the new name they picked doubles down and harkens back to the 2nd wave of feminism days i.e. Ms, the magazine and NOW the natl org of women of the ’60s.
    shades of gloria steinem and betty friedan !

    did they knowingly do this or are they oblivious to likely accusations of excluding/downgrading male participation?

  48. @realDonald Trump
    SNAP BENEFITS, which increased by Billions and Billions of Dollars (MANY FOLD!) during Crooked Joe Biden’s disastrous term in office (Due to the fact that they were haphazardly “handed” to anyone for the asking, as opposed to just those in need, which is the purpose of SNAP!), will be given only when the Radical Left Democrats open up government, which they can easily do, and not before! Thank you for your attention to this matter.
    President DJT

    *Violating another court order! Republicans control the WH, House & Senate, so HE/THEY can open up the government.

    tRUMP’s vengeance on America!

  49. Sleep is something I have had issues with since the early Seventies. Strange, odd and varied working hours were the start of it all. Then HCV and dying of a terrible disease causing lack of sleep and destruction of an internal clock. Medications added to the mess. Oh, the PTSD attacks sleep too.

    I would sleep an hour, up an hour. Maybe four or five hours per day.

    2024 and six months of shrink time and got to four hours straight sleep, the five hours.

    The important thing is my PC doc ordered a sleep study. Moderate sleep apnea. A CPAP machine was ordered and used. Sleep went to full seven hours of it, two or three nights a week.

  50. https://www.thedailybeast.com/cbs-cuts-donald-trumps-crypto-corruption-tantrum-from-60-minutes-edit/

    The MAGA social media account claimed it was the “FULL” Trump interview that came “without the network’s edits and cuts.” An editor’s note on the YouTube upload of the extended interview said it was “condensed for clarity.”

    However while a tense exchange over crypto corruption with interviewer Norah O’Donnell featured as part of the full written transcript on the 60 Minutes Overtime site, it did not appear in any online video version.

    *Craig – Looks like you’ll have to read that transcript after all, because even the unedited version was edited. Ha!

  51. MS Now also sounds like they’re advocating a disease. I understand their quagmire, needing to keep some part of a familiar brand, even though the MS part has never made sense since Microsoft left the partnership many years ago. There was really no good answer other than something entirely new, which would be scarty. But their bigger problem is whether Comcast just shuts them down altogether if they can’t find a buyer.

  52. MSNBC is now almost all women headliners except for Morning Joe and the afternoon group sow and night time Lawrence O’donnell.

  53. Linear TV 📺 (the emoji looks like our old TV, but without legs) will exist on antenna TV for awhile longer, but the money…

    RIP MTV

    https://www.slashgear.com/2004759/paramount-global-shutting-down-mtv-music-channels-europe-reason-why/

    After 40 Years, MTV Is Finally Taking Its Music Channels Off-The-Air Internationally

    Ironically, MTV’s protracted move away from music videos comes despite the medium’s continued success. However, viewership has migrated away from broadcast television, gaining a new life on video streaming platforms.

    As it stands, YouTube is now the most-watched content provider on American televisions, beating broadcasters like Fox and Disney and streamers like Netflix. MTV’s international streaming channels pale in comparison. Ratings showed MTV Music and MTV 90s garnering only a combined 2.25 million views in July 2025, less than the daily totals for some of 2025’s most popular music videos, like Taylor Swift’s “The Fate of Ophelia” and Daddy Yankee’s “El Toque”.

  54. Don’t forget Ari Melber and Chris Hayes.

    We’ve never called it anything but msmsn which came from a one-liner by Kathy Griffin on a long-ago sit com.

  55. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/positively-media/202511/meta-will-use-your-ai-chats-to-gather-data-on-you

    Meta Will Use Your AI Chats to Gather Data on You

    Meta’s “personalization” means your private conversations are now ad data.

    Starting December 16, 2025, Meta will begin adding AI chats to the behavioral data it gathers to further personalize its experiences and ad targeting. This move blurs the line between private communication and behavioral data, raising questions about how AI interactions can be used to shape what we see and how we see ourselves online.

    When Meta uses your AI chat interactions as additional input, your thoughts about hiking, cooking, parenting challenges, or mental health, or most anything else, can shape the Reels, posts, suggested groups, and ads you see. Meta says it will not use chats about “sensitive topics” such as religion, sexual orientation, politics, and health for ad targeting.

    But to make that distinction, they still must collect and process your data to decide if it’s fair game.

    Previously, algorithms could only infer our interests based on behavior. With AI chat, they can go straight to the source. Our thoughts.

    Algorithms will be able to match our thoughts with tracked behaviors. If the algorithm knows we asked about teen stress, it might serve us more posts about adolescent behavior. If it links that AI query with visiting a site for parental-control apps or teen mental health resources, it now has a whole new level of specificity from which to infer and shape our reality.

    AI chats can increase productivity, synthesize research, and be highly entertaining. And because it feels private, it gives us a place to try things out. We can role-play social situations, explore identities, or ponder our wildest dreams. AI chatbots are gushingly supportive, never critical, so a chat feels like a safe space to try on ideas, experimenting with self-presentation, and ask questions that may reflect our vulnerabilities or curiosities.

    However, those signals will now feed our recommendation system. Therefore, the algorithm can strengthen aspects of the self that were tentative or experimental but not internalized. Narrow feeds can bias our views of what’s good and bad in ourselves and others. They can be reflected in the stories we see, the communities we join, the ads we’re served, and our sense of self. This algorithmic reinforcement has been linked to polarization, anxiety, and distorted perceptions of social norms (e.g., Pariser, 2011; Ito et al, 2023).

  56. Sturg – Repugz are gerrymandering, refusing to sweat in elected members of Congress (only 1, so far), buying up voting machines, and they have private army (ICE) who act beyond the law. Aside from increasing their nefarious activities, what more do you expect them to do?

  57. “To keep his sanity, Joel crafts sentient robot companions, including Tom Servo, Crow T. Robot, Cambot and Gypsy, to keep him company and help him humorously comment on each movie as it plays…”
    -wiki for Mysty3K

    *Ah, Cambot, not Spambot.

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