Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Monday blasted the Supreme Court’s decision to lift restrictions on Los Angeles-area immigration stops based on criteria like speaking Spanish or working in a certain profession, calling the ruling “unconscionably irreconcilable with our Nation’s constitutional guarantees.”
“We should not have to live in a country where the Government can seize anyone who looks Latino, speaks Spanish, and appears to work a low wage job,” Sotomayor wrote in a dissenting opinion joined by the court’s other two liberal justices, Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson.
“Rather than stand idly by while our constitutional freedoms are lost, I dissent,” she said.
The high court’s decision came after the Trump administration sought emergency intervention.
U.S. District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong imposed the limits in July after finding the administration likely violated the Fourth Amendment by stopping people without reasonable suspicion.
She barred immigration authorities from relying on four factors to conduct immigration stops and arrests: race, use of Spanish, type of work or physical presence at a location where migrants in the country unlawfully are known to gather.
The ruling applied to the Central District of California, which includes Los Angeles and surrounding cities such as Riverside, San Bernardino and San Luis Obispo. More than 20 million people live in the area.
But on Monday, the justices lifted the restrictions without explanation in a one-paragraph order.
Sotomayor said the decision was “yet another grave misuse” of the court’s emergency docket.
“There may be good justification for issuing an unreasoned order in some circumstances,” Sotomayor wrote. “Yet, some situations simply cry out for an explanation, such as when the Government’s conduct flagrantly violates the law, or when lower courts and litigants need guidance about the issues on which they should focus.”
She explained that the lower court would inevitably soon hold a hearing on the challengers’ motions for a preliminary injunction and class certification, but when it does so, it will have only her concurrence and Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s solo opinion concurring with the majority from which to reason.
Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor tells Stephen that she still looks for the good in her colleagues on the Supreme Court despite the gravity of their differences. Stick around for more with Justice Sotomayor and grab a copy of her latest book, “Just Shine!,” available now in English and Spanish.
but we digress
Trump’s GOP allies are trying to deny the existence of the Epstein birthday note even after it was released by the House Oversight Committee, and Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor did not mince words in her dissent to the court’s decision to allow ICE to target all Latinos regardless of citizenship status.
With Trump’s cryptic and sexually suggestive birthday card to Epstein revealed, Michael Kosta dives into a lazy cover-up by the White House, a possible quid pro quo to buy Ghislaine Maxwell’s silence, and an excuse to blame it on Biden.
Attribution: Renaming The Department of Defense And Congress by R.J. Matson, CQ Roll Call
Attribution: DOD Name Change by John Darkow, Columbia Missourian
These are very dangerous times for our country and we (Democrats) must double down á la Gavin Newsome and CA to meet Dumbass’ moves to advantage Republicans in the House in 2026 midterms. New York, Pennsylvania, Washington, are you listening?
🚨 PUTIN JUST POKED NATO 🚨
Poland shot down Russian drones — NATO’s on alert and the alliance just invoked Article 4 (Consultation).
Anybody want to chat about this? Much to discuss.
🎥 Watch: https://youtube.com/shorts/NTHf77rC6SI
Anne Applebaum, The Atlantic:
“At least 19 Russian drones crossed into Poland last night. They were sent deliberately, not in error”.
I can see what’s happening. National Security Council is spooking the national media into downplaying this thing to buy time for Putin.
The Supremes ruled that Universities couldn’t use race for admissions, but ICE could use it for arrests. Make up your minds fools.
Putin’s attacking Poland now. He’s not going to stop. Netanyahoo is running roughshod over Dodo too. These bullies have no respect and no fear of our weakling President.
So, humans, let’s talk about what happens when you let the fox guard the henhouse — or in this case, when you let ICE loose in the streets without even bothering to bring a clipboard.
For 15 years, ICE agents had to fill out a simple worksheet before an arrest. Who’s the target? Where do they live? Any criminal record? Basically: Do your homework before you throw people in cuffs.
Putin just poked the bear — and NATO is wide awake. Join us live as we unpack Poland’s shoot-down, Article 4, and what this means for the rest of Europe. Bring your questions, your coffee, and your inner armchair general.
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The North Atlantic Treaty, signed in 1949, establishes NATO’s commitment to collective defense, democracy, and mutual cooperation among member states.
Key Articles of the North Atlantic Treaty
Article 1: Peaceful Resolution of Disputes – Member states commit to resolving international disputes peacefully and refrain from the threat or use of force inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.
Article 2: Promotion of Stability – The parties agree to contribute to the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations and to strengthen their free institutions.
Article 3: Self-Help and Mutual Aid – Member states will maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack through continuous and effective self-help and mutual aid.
Article 4: Consultation – The parties will consult together whenever the territorial integrity, political independence, or security of any member is threatened.
Article 5: Collective Defense – This is the cornerstone of NATO. It states that an armed attack against one or more members in Europe or North America is considered an attack against them all. Each member agrees to assist the attacked party by taking necessary actions, including the use of armed force. This article has only been invoked once, after the September 11 attacks in 2001.
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691 Republicans who were convicted or charged with crimes and credibly accused of alleged crimes since 2000
205 Republicans who committed sex crimes since 2000
87 Republicans who committed sex crimes involving minors since 2000
*Guess who is at the top of each category.
ok so apple earbuds now have real-time active language translation, that’s some Doctor Who shit 🤯
guess what the typical governing structure of advanced alien Doctor Who races is: corporate oligarchy!
Ivy – Did you notice Mar-a-Lago drawn in the background of the Epstein birthday book picture you posted last night?
🇵🇱 Poland says Putin is mocking Trump’s peace efforts.
David Axelrod
@davidaxelrod
Trump says all the time that if he were president then, Putin would not have gone into Ukraine.
Now Trump IS president, and Putin, emboldened by Trump’s equivocations, has gone into Poland!
Another notable letter, written by Elliot Wolk, states that Epstein worked for media mogul Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s father, in the mid-1970s, long before their publicly known relationship began. The message reads, “Jeffrey, I remember in the mid-1970s you being a star salesman for our tax-advantaged strategies… Was that when you first discovered the Maxwell teen-age daughter… Happy Birthday.”
Several conspiracy theories suggest that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset, possibly working for Israeli intelligence, and that he may have been recruited by Robert Maxwell, who himself has long been suspected of ties to Mossad.
*G. Maxwell was born 12/25/61, she was under 18 in the mid-70s. Just his type.
Jeffrey Epstein Built Vast Fortune Working with African Warlords to Hunt Down Stolen Money, Ghislaine Maxwell Claims
The longtime Epstein confidante — who is currently serving a 20 year prison sentence after being convicted on federal charges of: conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport minors to participate in illegal sex acts, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts, sex trafficking conspiracy, and sex trafficking of a minor — said that in this endeavor, he either worked with or for African warlords.
The idea came from a girlfriend at the time, said Maxwell, though she did not identify the woman by name.
“She was the daughter of a billionaire, for instance. And that billionaire, whoever his — whatever his name was — had had some money stolen, and for some reason this woman introduced Jeffrey, and Jeffrey — I think that’s how that business started. That’s what I remember,” Maxwell said in her interview.
Epstein started as a cab driver and then, at the age of 21 and without a college degree, secured a teaching position at Dalton, an elite private school on New York City’s Upper East Side.
He was fired from the school for poor performance, according to administrators at the time, but managed to land on his feet after the father of one of his students offered him a job at Bear Stearns.
Five years into that job, Epstein again found himself out of work, later saying in a deposition that he had performed a trade that violated the U.S. Securities Act.
It was after this termination in 1981 when Epstein began to work for himself, and started hunting down money which had been stolen from a number of wealthy clients, according to Maxwell.
Questions have long swirled as to how Epstein managed to leave behind an estate valued at close to $600 million given his confounding job history.
*It wasn’t a finder’s fee for finding stolen money. What a crock. Hopefully, Ovetsight will follow the real money trail; over $1 billion in transfers, some with Russian banks.
New York said Epstein had more than 40 Deutsche Bank accounts, some of which were for the “Butterfly Trust”, whose beneficiaries included co-conspirators in alleged sexual abuse.
This created a risk that payments could be used to “further or coverup criminal activity and perhaps even to endanger more young women,” the New York settlement, which reflected Deutsche Bank’s cooperation over several years, revealed.
Epstein was a Deutsche Bank client from August 2013 to December 2018, when the relationship ended after further negative press surfaced about his misconduct.
The transactions processed by the German bank included payments to alleged accomplices, lawyers, victims, Russian models and women with Eastern European surnames, and “suspicious” cash withdrawals averaging $200,000 a year.
*Melania Knauss?
It doesn’t sound like Don-Old wrote it.
“What’s with” sounds like language from someone under almost-80.
“Here we go!” sounds like someone excited to get this world war underway.
“we” does not mean the US as part of NATO.
Is Putin trolling tRUMP?
Is Putin trying to take the heat off of his puppy getting outed in the Epstein files?
Does Putin even need tRUMP anymore?
“Putin laughs at President Trump’s peace efforts,” Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski said. “Since Alaska, he has only intensified the war. I hope that President Trump backs his words with action.”
Charlie Kirk shot in the neck
Anon, the Apple earbuds translation feature is cool. Of course unless both conversation participants are using that feature, beyond responses like yes or no, there will still be one person who doesn’t know what the shit the other one is saying – but hell yes, before I go abroad, or to SoCal, I want a pair of those. SNL needs to get ahold of this. Reminds me of French class in college – instructor was a Belgian fella with a great sense of humor. Early on he had us learn some seemingly random words, but, joker that he was, began teaching us idioms, like “il fait un froid de canard.” His translation – it’s cold as hell. I’d guess you had to be there.
Italian aircraft were involved in NATO’s response after Russian drones violated Poland’s airspace overnight, Reuters reported on Wednesday.
Polish F-16 fighter jets, Dutch F-35s and Italian AWACS surveillance planes and mid-air refueling aircraft were involved in the operation, Reuters reported, citing NATO sources.
It said the sources said NATO was not treating the incident as an attack but as a deliberate incursion. (ANSA).
Is Charlie Kirk going to be our Reichstag fire? We going full fascist today?
Tomorrow is 9/11, so I wouldn’t be surprised if tRUMPco doesn’t do something so terrible we can’t even conceive of it.
Has Charlie Kirk hated his last woman and owned his last lib?
Concepts of thoughts & prayers.
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Donald Trump’s response to Poland-Russia confrontation? A cryptic “Here we go!” before phoning Poland’s president.
Should NATO retaliate — or just clutch its pearls?
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Poland just shot down Russian drones over its airspace — the first time a NATO member has taken direct military action. Poland invoked NATO’s Article 4.
Donald Trump’s response? A cryptic “Here we go!
i wonder if it was a time-traveler
Now three in critical condition at Colorado school shooting.
Sounds like a rifle and the security environment is poorly conceived
Charlie Kirk has died.
Wow he managed not to blame Biden, for now
He, kirk, at the time was attacking Trans people who, all four of the mass shooters, were worse than the over four thousand not Trans mass shooters, when he was hit. The talk to disarm Trans people, leaving them vulnerable, is a hot topic in the right wing hate world. So, I don’t really care much about one more fascist out of action by being shot. He could have stepped off a curb in front of a truck and have the same result. At least there were no others injured. Any office pool about his body laying in state? Or flags at half staff for a week. mangomoron pontificating about what a great guy he was?
Ivy – Did you notice Mar-a-Lago drawn in the background of the Epstein birthday book picture you posted last night?
I did, BiD, it’s unmistakeable though some would argue it looks like any number of Florida mansions.
Well, I’m shocked and saddened. I hate any tragic loss of life. There will be flames fanned by this one and that bereaves me too.
Repugz haven’t made a peep about the political assassination, murders, and attempted murders in MN, but I do expect them to make a martyr of KKKirk and is misogynistic views.
The incel army will be out for retribution. Dems need to circle the wagons around themselves.
It’s nothing to joke about, but Kirk did not care about harm coming to others. He was a misogynist, a yt supremacist, and led the ‘lonely men’ march to the fascist, Donald J. tRUMP. No tears. Disgust at what he stood for, and anger that he’ll be a used as MAGAt martyr.
It’s so hard not to…. OK, thoughts and prayers (well, thoughts). (But I’m betting the RW noise machine won’t be calling for a discussion about gun control measures).
Charlie Kirk was anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, anti-women’s rights, anti-LGBTQ, Islamophobic, pro-gun, pro-tRUMP/fascist. That’s what any accurate obituary of him should include.
Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, “I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”
“Kirk stated that if his 10-year-old daughter were sexually assaulted and became pregnant, he would require her to carry the pregnancy to term.”
Rogan, Shapiro & Kirk are/were widely followed in MAGAtLand. I’m going to get an earful of “you damned libs” for awhile, and although I am capable of keeping my mouth shut, my eyes make a sound when they roll in my head. There was not a peep of “that’s sad” about MN. Crickets.
Did tRUMP sacrifice Charlie Kirk so folks would stop talking about Epstein?
Russian drones in Europe didn’t do it, for whatever reason.
Not so much as an inch for the Colorado students.
Did tRUMP sacrifice Charlie Kirk so folks would stop talking about Epstein?
I wouldn’t put it past them
When initial reports stated the shooter was in custody I thought “oh good, no conspiracy theories”, so much for that
Trump orders National flags to half staff for dead anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, anti-women’s rights, anti-LGBTQ, Islamophobic, pro-gun, pro-tRUMP/fascist, but not so much as an inch for the Colorado students.
Thanks to BiD & Jamie for the clarity.
Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, “I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”
I’d bet his wife and kids would disagree with that about now.
So far I called it, flags down, called “great” by sfb. Now, will mangomoron go all the way to lay in state?
He was not a nice person. He was a super hate monger. He was as big a grifter as any other magat. He advocated for gun deaths. He was a recruiter for fascists.
I passed the empathy and sympathy for “all” a very long time ago, violence solves nothing is meaning less if you are the one being beat on. If you preach hate, and anti-American positions, screw you. My ex told me the military changed me into a super patriot who was fiscally conservative, and ultimately, super liberal, and hated fascism. Someone who could look at kirk being shot and then decide on what I want to make for dinner. It is true.
The guy was a family man trying to destroy America and minorities. I don’t know how his wife and kid will do. Frankly I don’t care. Just as he did not care for any families that suffered from losses from gun violence. It is not fully political, it is also philosophical, I want to see everyone live in happiness, he and his ilk want to see, actually watch, people suffer.
So I have no feelings about his death, as I said earlier, he could have walked into the path of a truck, or he could have gone to Russia and fought in Ukraine for the usual seven days before death. I do not care, except the world has one less bad guy and fascist.
I’d bet his wife and kids would disagree with that about now.
they won’t because maga is a cult
online liberals and their predictably shitty hot-takes, no wonder you can’t build coalitions
I am with you BlueB. Like all the maggot demagogues I tracked he was a hate merchant. Maybe more dangerous because he delivered it with a smile. And spare me this crap about he welcomed debate. Those forums were created so he could ridicule foes to cheering crowds.
Stomps into the house. “Heavy news day.”
I responded with the news of Russian drones in Europe, and jets from several NATO countries intercepting them.
Stomps around: “Didn’t you hear there was an assassination on a university campus?”
I said that I heard several kids were shot in Colorado.
Stomps some more: “It was Charlie Kirk. They shot him in the throat. He bled out in front of everyone.”
Crickets about anything else.
Slams cupboard: “It was disgusting.”
Yes, that’s terrible.
Slams oven door: “I hardly know who Charlie Kirk is, but it makes me sick.”
(BS, I’ve heard about Kirk, Rogan & Shapiro on a regular drip since moving here…which was a mistake…I should move.)
I’ve developed a fear of mass gatherings, irrational or not, for just this reason, and despite that I went to a few concerts this summer, which were amazing and the security was very good at all of them, and I made sure to thank the security people for making my experience safer and more enjoyable
Point being if you’re going to have a mass gathering, provide security
I should move
agree
BB – His wife has a ministry grift. Widows probably haul in more, because…what was it her ex-husband called…”toxic empathy.”
As the old adage goes, the only good n&zi is a something something.
Where is the outrage for the kids in Colorado?
Where is the worry for Putin spreading the war further into Europe?
Where are the Epstein files?
What the heck? FBI official at press conference just said they don’t have suspect in custody???
when did liberals stop being the party of “peace and love” and start being the party of “burn in hell”?
I wanted to be in the party of peace and love
Poobah, , I just saw it pop-up come across from LA times saying they have a gunman in custody.
Person of interest now in custody per Utah Governor.
lol pogo you have to turn the radio off if you’re going to use voice dictation
Ask me how I know 😜
I just brought up MN and they didn’t know what I was talking about.
My potato chips are extra salty tonight, but not from tears.
Was the shooter military? Was Charlie sacrificed? Even if not, they will use it to keep Epstein out of the news.
I just brought up MN and they didn’t know what I was talking about.
honestly, what are you talking about? I don’t know. The shooting last week?
Utah comes through with a typical response:
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R) said at a news conference that a person of interest was in custody and being interviewed by officials. He vowed to hold Charlie Kirk’s killer “accountable to the furthest extent of the law.”
“And I just want to remind people that we still have the death penalty here in the state of Utah,” Cox added.
My response is “dear, whomever did the shot had no care about being found out and executed.” Also, Utah used death by gun shot as a response to the changes to execution by non-Constitutional means.
Anon, or not try to dictate in a car wash.
Kiss my grits!
Right now hearing a crowd of folks walking down the street shouting “Free DC”.
Viewers of “Alice” could tell when Flo, a gum-chewing Southern diner waitress with attitude, was perturbed. She’d pause momentarily, address the offender in the sweetest, most dulcet tones and then suggest, deadpan, “Kiss my grits.”
His salary from Turning Point went from $27,ooo t0 $300,000. Alittle skimming going on?
thank you for the clarification BiD, hard to keep track of all the shootings
For some reason, I just can’t put my finger on it, I’m not inclined to watch cable news tonight. OK, it’s to avoid hearing ad nauseum what a tragedy Kirk’s death is. Sorry, I don’t care enough to tolerate that shit to get a pittance of other news. I wonder what Guy’s doing on Guys’s Grocery Games or David on My Lottery Dream Home tonight? Or who’s being featured on Rock Legends? Oh, the choices…
So I guess this means Trump can get away with letting Putin get away with invading Poland
Democrat James Walkinshaw will win a special election in Virginia’s 11th Congressional District, CNN’s Decision Desk projects, bolstering Democratic numbers in the House and cutting down on an already slim Republican majority.
With Tuesday’s results, House Speaker Mike Johnson will now only be able to afford to lose two Republicans on party-line votes as opposed to three.
ICE officers are no longer required to obtain prior approval before making arrests, ending a policy in place for more than 15 years, according to an NBC News report citing six current and former officials from ICE and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
*They haven’t been doing that this year, anyway…and not all of them are ICE.
ps – Reports are that ICE is in Harlem.
Pogo
First three episodes of new season Only Murders in the building on Hulu. Also, first three epsodes of Tny & Ziva on Paramount. Blood of my Blood on Starz. No news necessary.
Jamie, thx. Enjoying a Tom Petty show on AXS right now. But those sound promising. Always sorta liked Tony & Zina characters on NCIS. It’s on my list of gotta check it out.
They arrested him after that for obstruction. The catch all charge for anyone who says “I’m not your guy.”
Patel’s skill set is flattering Trump.
Let’s get back to Poland & Epstein.
U.S. Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker sorted it all out: “We stand by our NATO Allies in the face of these airspace violations and will defend every inch of NATO territory”
So we can stop worrying. (is there a sarcasm emoji?)
well, I just had some chocolate from a San Francisco boutique chocolatier, and while I usually don’t like boutique chocolates, this chef did them right:
they are the best of this type of artisan truffle I’ve ever had
will defend every inch of NATO territory
except they didn’t and aren’t
If we had our own Q-Anon we’d start a conspiracy story that Patel ordered the hit. Don’t need a rationale.
i didn’t know Kirk had gone back to pressuring Trump to release Epstein files. Kirk’s shifting positions:
In July 2025, following the release of a Justice Department memo, Kirk initially called for the public release of the Epstein files and criticized the White House’s handling of the matter. He later softened his position after speaking with President Trump, stating that he would trust the administration and move on from the issue for the time being. Reversing his position again: But recently Kirk re-engaged with the issue on his radio show, insisting, “we’re not moving on” and suggesting the “ball was in the administration’s court” to take further action.
— Google AI Gemini
At first glance, they might look like harmless throwbacks, tapping into nostalgia for World War II–era recruitment art. But the deliberate choice to seemingly exclude women and people of color — while centering White men as the singular face of America’s future — is anything but harmless.
The slogans themselves, lifted straight from wartime propaganda — “Your Nation Needs You,” “Build America’s Future”— reinforce the message. Wrapped in patriotic urgency, they leave little room for dissent. Who could argue with national pride without being accused of disloyalty? That’s the trap propaganda sets: it makes exclusion feel like duty.
*They’re hot off of the propaganda press.
i didn’t know Kirk had gone back to pressuring Trump to release Epstein files.
One single shot from long range with ideal vantage points, and they still haven’t caught the shooter- kind of looks like a professional hit
Whomever made the hit was quite a marksman. Military?
Reasons: Intentional to distract from Epstein? Bigger than that? Just convenient?
Didn’t realize Kirk was pushing for release of the files. Maybe Don-Old did put out a hit on him…and to send a message to other alt-right mouthpieces to shut up about Jeffrey.
Remember, tRUMPsky did tell folks to “get over it” when children were shot and killed, so there’s no way he gives a rat’s rear end about Kirk.
Trump was so quick in announcing Kirk’s death. It’s almost like he was excited to do it
listen, the Republicans had 11 Venezuelans and three North Koreans murdered last week. Yes, I believe they will murder in an attempt to achieve their goals
when you get mixed up with bad people bad things happen and these billionaire Republicans are bad people
Left jump on this one now:
Kirk was silenced over his stance on Epstein files.
Thus killing three birds with one stone since they will blame it on the left and it will take the eyes off Epstein.
do you understand how hard it is to get away from a manhunt with all law-enforcement hunting you and cameras everywhere?
we had pictures of Luigi’s face pretty soon after he murdered that healthcare executive
And yet…….
‘zackly
lol nice screenname, see wut u did there
🙄 Poobah, for sarcasm I’m fond of the rolling eyes emoji.
I have not watched the Kirk video (and have no need to traumatize myself doing so), but as I’ve been reading the news, there are mentions of a guy behind him gesturing with his hand. Just wondering if anything looked off.
Sturg – That’s the way it looks. A triangulation of convenience.
Craig posted a screenshot above, there is no one standing behind Kirk, he was sitting against a backdrop
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is out and married, and was a Soros Fund employee??
you learn something everyday
“When you sow the wind….”
I expect to see more violence from both the right and the left. It hasn’t been that long ago that NRA gun enthusiast were talking about the violence they could do. It was just a matter of time for the radical left to get involved. Too many guns and too many unsupervised shooting ranges to practice.
I suspect the “200” yards is a guess that has been repeated until it is fact. But if so, It wouldn’t take a trained sniper to make the shot, just someone with a little practice. It was a neck shot , so the shooter shot straight, just a little high. A trained sniper would have blown his heart out at 200 yards.
Jack
wasn’t a neck shot, don’t know why people are saying that*, the video is out there, he was hit in the chest
no evidence at all on the shooter’s ideology (or lack of)
you gotta be pretty cold to not miss due to nerves in that environment
and you incidentally make a good point about training because if the shooter was indeed on that distant rooftop, he was significantly elevated, which is another ballistic calculation that has to be made and I don’t know anything about that so I wouldn’t know what the calculation is
someone who can confidently shoot at distance and elevation with a single shot indicates training
The fact that he is not in custody indicates training
*(oh, i remember: that’s what a bystander said to the press, you can’t know what you saw in a moment like that)
i’m deducing it was a large-caliber bullet from the video, also, not a .223, and the shooter had to dial the scope in somewhere
should narrow it down a bit
if you don’t think gun policy in the US is insane, go to any sporting goods store in a red state look at all the weapons of war you can buy in 15 minutes or less
Soccer balls, athleisure wear, weapons of war!
Walmart still sells that shit too
it is straight up insane to let this society of morons and kooks have free access to guns, my people
“He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in,” he said.
*And, for that accurate statement, MSNBC fired Matthew Dowd.
The left ran a masterclass on how to say the most tone-deaf, unproductive shit possible today
we are losing the culture war for a reason
The Lotus the Cat blog that Jamie posted said it perfectly, nothing but something approximating this should be said, for at least a day:
Today, we find ourselves reeling from two senseless acts of violence that cut to the heart of who we are as Americans.
First, conservative commentator Charlie Kirk was shot while speaking at Utah Valley University. He later succumbed to his injuries. He was a husband, a father, and a man who, regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, left a mark on American public life. (AP News)
At the same time, in Evergreen, Colorado, three high school students—including the suspected shooter—were critically wounded in a campus shooting. A place meant for learning was once again turned into a scene of chaos and terror. (Axios)
Two very different tragedies, yet bound together by one common thread: America’s epidemic of gun violence.
…and pardon my over-participation, but even saying “it must stop” is stupid, there are so many guns in this country, that it will take generations to fix this problem with an earnest effort, and nobody with the power is even doing that.
Despite that, another common thread that I’ve observed over the last 10 years or so from all of these shootings is the guns used in them tend to be recently acquired from retailers, I bet a 30 day waiting period would end a lot of this stuff, 90 days would end even more
How is pointing out that Kirk used hate speech on the regular tone-deaf or unproductive? Kirk’s claim to fame was running his mouth to sow division. Dowd said it in a pretty carefully worded way, too.
It’s BS.
The Yankees had a moment of silence for him tonight, but not for kids who got shot, nor a Dem Representative who was assassinated in her home less than three months ago.
Republicans love guns. To prove it, a Dem should introduce a gun law and name it after Charlie Kirk (like the Brady Bill) and see if Republicans will vote for it. No, they’d probably argue using Charlie’s own words: “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”
“Every.” “Single.” “Year.”
How is pointing out that Kirk used hate speech on the regular tone-deaf or unproductive?
for the same reason you said it was “carefully worded”
I like your Brady Bill idea though 👍
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Justice Amy Coney Barrett spoke with CBS News senior correspondent Norah O’Donnell for her first television interview since joining the Supreme Court.
juxtapose that with this
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5492307-sonia-sotomayor-blasts-immigration-ruling/
Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor tells Stephen that she still looks for the good in her colleagues on the Supreme Court despite the gravity of their differences. Stick around for more with Justice Sotomayor and grab a copy of her latest book, “Just Shine!,” available now in English and Spanish.
but we digress
Trump’s GOP allies are trying to deny the existence of the Epstein birthday note even after it was released by the House Oversight Committee, and Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor did not mince words in her dissent to the court’s decision to allow ICE to target all Latinos regardless of citizenship status.
With Trump’s cryptic and sexually suggestive birthday card to Epstein revealed, Michael Kosta dives into a lazy cover-up by the White House, a possible quid pro quo to buy Ghislaine Maxwell’s silence, and an excuse to blame it on Biden.
Attribution: Renaming The Department of Defense And Congress by R.J. Matson, CQ Roll Call
Attribution: DOD Name Change by John Darkow, Columbia Missourian
These are very dangerous times for our country and we (Democrats) must double down á la Gavin Newsome and CA to meet Dumbass’ moves to advantage Republicans in the House in 2026 midterms. New York, Pennsylvania, Washington, are you listening?
🚨 PUTIN JUST POKED NATO 🚨
Poland shot down Russian drones — NATO’s on alert and the alliance just invoked Article 4 (Consultation).
Anybody want to chat about this? Much to discuss.
🎥 Watch: https://youtube.com/shorts/NTHf77rC6SI
Anne Applebaum, The Atlantic:
“At least 19 Russian drones crossed into Poland last night. They were sent deliberately, not in error”.
I can see what’s happening. National Security Council is spooking the national media into downplaying this thing to buy time for Putin.
The Supremes ruled that Universities couldn’t use race for admissions, but ICE could use it for arrests. Make up your minds fools.
Putin’s attacking Poland now. He’s not going to stop. Netanyahoo is running roughshod over Dodo too. These bullies have no respect and no fear of our weakling President.
What Ivy said.
ICE Without a Leash: Trump’s Deportation Machine Goes Feral.
https://open.substack.com/pub/lotuspurrspective/p/ice-without-a-leash-trumps-deportation?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
more …
Chat Studio is open. Watching Polish TV now.
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Putin just poked the bear — and NATO is wide awake. Join us live as we unpack Poland’s shoot-down, Article 4, and what this means for the rest of Europe. Bring your questions, your coffee, and your inner armchair general.
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today’s meme…
The North Atlantic Treaty, signed in 1949, establishes NATO’s commitment to collective defense, democracy, and mutual cooperation among member states.
Key Articles of the North Atlantic Treaty
Article 1: Peaceful Resolution of Disputes – Member states commit to resolving international disputes peacefully and refrain from the threat or use of force inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.
Article 2: Promotion of Stability – The parties agree to contribute to the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations and to strengthen their free institutions.
Article 3: Self-Help and Mutual Aid – Member states will maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack through continuous and effective self-help and mutual aid.
Article 4: Consultation – The parties will consult together whenever the territorial integrity, political independence, or security of any member is threatened.
Article 5: Collective Defense – This is the cornerstone of NATO. It states that an armed attack against one or more members in Europe or North America is considered an attack against them all. Each member agrees to assist the attacked party by taking necessary actions, including the use of armed force. This article has only been invoked once, after the September 11 attacks in 2001.
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Polish Foreign Minister says Putin is “mocking” Trump with this drone attack on Poland.
https://streamyard.com/jp2mwysyxk
Widening war in Europe on hold for whoever makes the next move. More chat later if something else happens.
A whole musical about the only time Article 5 was activated.
The opening number at the Tony award ceremony
Love that show, Jamie. ❤️
Dodo the Dilettante is in no way up to this job.
Tomorrow is the anniversary of 9/11.
Drones over Poland. NATO is watching.
Craig and Jamie break it down in today’s short:
so the war that dipshit said he was going to end on day one is now expanding
Great job Republicans
war is peace
ignorance is strength
freedom is slavery
meme #2…
well that’s an inelegantly constructed premise
so when conservatives engage in racial stereotyping and liberals counter with a different racial stereotype it just validates the first stereotype
These liberals will not save us, they are as dumb as their counterparts just slightly more educated on average
*Family Guy pointed it out long ago.
https://thebastionusa.com/criminal-scandals
691 Republicans who were convicted or charged with crimes and credibly accused of alleged crimes since 2000
205 Republicans who committed sex crimes since 2000
87 Republicans who committed sex crimes involving minors since 2000
*Guess who is at the top of each category.
ok so apple earbuds now have real-time active language translation, that’s some Doctor Who shit 🤯
guess what the typical governing structure of advanced alien Doctor Who races is: corporate oligarchy!
Ivy – Did you notice Mar-a-Lago drawn in the background of the Epstein birthday book picture you posted last night?
🇵🇱 Poland says Putin is mocking Trump’s peace efforts.
David Axelrod
@davidaxelrod
Trump says all the time that if he were president then, Putin would not have gone into Ukraine.
Now Trump IS president, and Putin, emboldened by Trump’s equivocations, has gone into Poland!
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/epstein-files-bombshell-new-docs-reveal-cia-ties-early-connection-to-ghislaine-maxwell-article-152734286
Another notable letter, written by Elliot Wolk, states that Epstein worked for media mogul Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s father, in the mid-1970s, long before their publicly known relationship began. The message reads, “Jeffrey, I remember in the mid-1970s you being a star salesman for our tax-advantaged strategies… Was that when you first discovered the Maxwell teen-age daughter… Happy Birthday.”
Several conspiracy theories suggest that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset, possibly working for Israeli intelligence, and that he may have been recruited by Robert Maxwell, who himself has long been suspected of ties to Mossad.
*G. Maxwell was born 12/25/61, she was under 18 in the mid-70s. Just his type.
https://people.com/jeffrey-epstein-african-warlords-fortune-ghislaine-maxwell-interview-11799265
Jeffrey Epstein Built Vast Fortune Working with African Warlords to Hunt Down Stolen Money, Ghislaine Maxwell Claims
The longtime Epstein confidante — who is currently serving a 20 year prison sentence after being convicted on federal charges of: conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport minors to participate in illegal sex acts, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts, sex trafficking conspiracy, and sex trafficking of a minor — said that in this endeavor, he either worked with or for African warlords.
The idea came from a girlfriend at the time, said Maxwell, though she did not identify the woman by name.
“She was the daughter of a billionaire, for instance. And that billionaire, whoever his — whatever his name was — had had some money stolen, and for some reason this woman introduced Jeffrey, and Jeffrey — I think that’s how that business started. That’s what I remember,” Maxwell said in her interview.
Epstein started as a cab driver and then, at the age of 21 and without a college degree, secured a teaching position at Dalton, an elite private school on New York City’s Upper East Side.
He was fired from the school for poor performance, according to administrators at the time, but managed to land on his feet after the father of one of his students offered him a job at Bear Stearns.
Five years into that job, Epstein again found himself out of work, later saying in a deposition that he had performed a trade that violated the U.S. Securities Act.
It was after this termination in 1981 when Epstein began to work for himself, and started hunting down money which had been stolen from a number of wealthy clients, according to Maxwell.
Questions have long swirled as to how Epstein managed to leave behind an estate valued at close to $600 million given his confounding job history.
*It wasn’t a finder’s fee for finding stolen money. What a crock. Hopefully, Ovetsight will follow the real money trail; over $1 billion in transfers, some with Russian banks.
WTF does this mean?
https://www.reuters.com/article/business/epstein-red-flags-russian-models-land-deutsche-bank-150-million-fine-idUSKBN2481WA/
New York said Epstein had more than 40 Deutsche Bank accounts, some of which were for the “Butterfly Trust”, whose beneficiaries included co-conspirators in alleged sexual abuse.
This created a risk that payments could be used to “further or coverup criminal activity and perhaps even to endanger more young women,” the New York settlement, which reflected Deutsche Bank’s cooperation over several years, revealed.
Epstein was a Deutsche Bank client from August 2013 to December 2018, when the relationship ended after further negative press surfaced about his misconduct.
The transactions processed by the German bank included payments to alleged accomplices, lawyers, victims, Russian models and women with Eastern European surnames, and “suspicious” cash withdrawals averaging $200,000 a year.
*Melania Knauss?
It doesn’t sound like Don-Old wrote it.
“What’s with” sounds like language from someone under almost-80.
“Here we go!” sounds like someone excited to get this world war underway.
“we” does not mean the US as part of NATO.
Is Putin trolling tRUMP?
Is Putin trying to take the heat off of his puppy getting outed in the Epstein files?
Does Putin even need tRUMP anymore?
“Putin laughs at President Trump’s peace efforts,” Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski said. “Since Alaska, he has only intensified the war. I hope that President Trump backs his words with action.”
Charlie Kirk shot in the neck
Anon, the Apple earbuds translation feature is cool. Of course unless both conversation participants are using that feature, beyond responses like yes or no, there will still be one person who doesn’t know what the shit the other one is saying – but hell yes, before I go abroad, or to SoCal, I want a pair of those. SNL needs to get ahold of this. Reminds me of French class in college – instructor was a Belgian fella with a great sense of humor. Early on he had us learn some seemingly random words, but, joker that he was, began teaching us idioms, like “il fait un froid de canard.” His translation – it’s cold as hell. I’d guess you had to be there.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italian-aircraft-involved-in-poland-drone-response-report/ar-AA1MgfVs
Italian aircraft were involved in NATO’s response after Russian drones violated Poland’s airspace overnight, Reuters reported on Wednesday.
Polish F-16 fighter jets, Dutch F-35s and Italian AWACS surveillance planes and mid-air refueling aircraft were involved in the operation, Reuters reported, citing NATO sources.
It said the sources said NATO was not treating the incident as an attack but as a deliberate incursion. (ANSA).
Is Charlie Kirk going to be our Reichstag fire? We going full fascist today?
Tomorrow is 9/11, so I wouldn’t be surprised if tRUMPco doesn’t do something so terrible we can’t even conceive of it.
Has Charlie Kirk hated his last woman and owned his last lib?
Concepts of thoughts & prayers.
🔴 Chat Room Open
Donald Trump’s response to Poland-Russia confrontation? A cryptic “Here we go!” before phoning Poland’s president.
Should NATO retaliate — or just clutch its pearls?
💬 Hop in: https://trailmix.cc/home/chatroom/
If he lives he may change his mind.
❓ Should NATO retaliate?
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Poland just shot down Russian drones over its airspace — the first time a NATO member has taken direct military action. Poland invoked NATO’s Article 4.
Donald Trump’s response? A cryptic “Here we go!
i wonder if it was a time-traveler
Now three in critical condition at Colorado school shooting.
https://www.denver7.com/news/local-news/report-of-active-assailant-in-the-area-of-evergreen-high-school
TMZ has the unedited videos
The prognosis isn’t good based on what I saw
Sounds like a rifle and the security environment is poorly conceived
Charlie Kirk has died.
Wow he managed not to blame Biden, for now
He, kirk, at the time was attacking Trans people who, all four of the mass shooters, were worse than the over four thousand not Trans mass shooters, when he was hit. The talk to disarm Trans people, leaving them vulnerable, is a hot topic in the right wing hate world. So, I don’t really care much about one more fascist out of action by being shot. He could have stepped off a curb in front of a truck and have the same result. At least there were no others injured. Any office pool about his body laying in state? Or flags at half staff for a week. mangomoron pontificating about what a great guy he was?
I did, BiD, it’s unmistakeable though some would argue it looks like any number of Florida mansions.
Well, I’m shocked and saddened. I hate any tragic loss of life. There will be flames fanned by this one and that bereaves me too.
Repugz haven’t made a peep about the political assassination, murders, and attempted murders in MN, but I do expect them to make a martyr of KKKirk and is misogynistic views.
The incel army will be out for retribution. Dems need to circle the wagons around themselves.
It’s nothing to joke about, but Kirk did not care about harm coming to others. He was a misogynist, a yt supremacist, and led the ‘lonely men’ march to the fascist, Donald J. tRUMP. No tears. Disgust at what he stood for, and anger that he’ll be a used as MAGAt martyr.
It’s so hard not to…. OK, thoughts and prayers (well, thoughts). (But I’m betting the RW noise machine won’t be calling for a discussion about gun control measures).
Charlie Kirk was anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, anti-women’s rights, anti-LGBTQ, Islamophobic, pro-gun, pro-tRUMP/fascist. That’s what any accurate obituary of him should include.
One less hateful demagogue I have to follow.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gun-deaths-quote/
Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, “I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”
https://deepnewz.com/culture/charlie-kirk-sparks-controversy-comments-on-10-year-old-daughter-abortion-rape-8e5ccbaa
“Kirk stated that if his 10-year-old daughter were sexually assaulted and became pregnant, he would require her to carry the pregnancy to term.”
Rogan, Shapiro & Kirk are/were widely followed in MAGAtLand. I’m going to get an earful of “you damned libs” for awhile, and although I am capable of keeping my mouth shut, my eyes make a sound when they roll in my head. There was not a peep of “that’s sad” about MN. Crickets.
Trump orders National flags to half staff
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/donald-trump-orders-flags-at-half-staff-across-us-for-patriot-kirk-101757539356059.html
Did tRUMP sacrifice Charlie Kirk so folks would stop talking about Epstein?
Russian drones in Europe didn’t do it, for whatever reason.
Not so much as an inch for the Colorado students.
I wouldn’t put it past them
When initial reports stated the shooter was in custody I thought “oh good, no conspiracy theories”, so much for that
Trump orders National flags to half staff for dead anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, anti-women’s rights, anti-LGBTQ, Islamophobic, pro-gun, pro-tRUMP/fascist, but not so much as an inch for the Colorado students.
Thanks to BiD & Jamie for the clarity.
I’d bet his wife and kids would disagree with that about now.
So far I called it, flags down, called “great” by sfb. Now, will mangomoron go all the way to lay in state?
He was not a nice person. He was a super hate monger. He was as big a grifter as any other magat. He advocated for gun deaths. He was a recruiter for fascists.
I passed the empathy and sympathy for “all” a very long time ago, violence solves nothing is meaning less if you are the one being beat on. If you preach hate, and anti-American positions, screw you. My ex told me the military changed me into a super patriot who was fiscally conservative, and ultimately, super liberal, and hated fascism. Someone who could look at kirk being shot and then decide on what I want to make for dinner. It is true.
The guy was a family man trying to destroy America and minorities. I don’t know how his wife and kid will do. Frankly I don’t care. Just as he did not care for any families that suffered from losses from gun violence. It is not fully political, it is also philosophical, I want to see everyone live in happiness, he and his ilk want to see, actually watch, people suffer.
So I have no feelings about his death, as I said earlier, he could have walked into the path of a truck, or he could have gone to Russia and fought in Ukraine for the usual seven days before death. I do not care, except the world has one less bad guy and fascist.
they won’t because maga is a cult
online liberals and their predictably shitty hot-takes, no wonder you can’t build coalitions
I am with you BlueB. Like all the maggot demagogues I tracked he was a hate merchant. Maybe more dangerous because he delivered it with a smile. And spare me this crap about he welcomed debate. Those forums were created so he could ridicule foes to cheering crowds.
Stomps into the house. “Heavy news day.”
I responded with the news of Russian drones in Europe, and jets from several NATO countries intercepting them.
Stomps around: “Didn’t you hear there was an assassination on a university campus?”
I said that I heard several kids were shot in Colorado.
Stomps some more: “It was Charlie Kirk. They shot him in the throat. He bled out in front of everyone.”
Crickets about anything else.
Slams cupboard: “It was disgusting.”
Yes, that’s terrible.
Slams oven door: “I hardly know who Charlie Kirk is, but it makes me sick.”
(BS, I’ve heard about Kirk, Rogan & Shapiro on a regular drip since moving here…which was a mistake…I should move.)
I’ve developed a fear of mass gatherings, irrational or not, for just this reason, and despite that I went to a few concerts this summer, which were amazing and the security was very good at all of them, and I made sure to thank the security people for making my experience safer and more enjoyable
Point being if you’re going to have a mass gathering, provide security
agree
BB – His wife has a ministry grift. Widows probably haul in more, because…what was it her ex-husband called…”toxic empathy.”
As the old adage goes, the only good n&zi is a something something.
Where is the outrage for the kids in Colorado?
Where is the worry for Putin spreading the war further into Europe?
Where are the Epstein files?
What the heck? FBI official at press conference just said they don’t have suspect in custody???
when did liberals stop being the party of “peace and love” and start being the party of “burn in hell”?
I wanted to be in the party of peace and love
Poobah, , I just saw it pop-up come across from LA times saying they have a gunman in custody.
Person of interest now in custody per Utah Governor.
lol pogo you have to turn the radio off if you’re going to use voice dictation
Ask me how I know 😜
I just brought up MN and they didn’t know what I was talking about.
My potato chips are extra salty tonight, but not from tears.
Was the shooter military? Was Charlie sacrificed? Even if not, they will use it to keep Epstein out of the news.
honestly, what are you talking about? I don’t know. The shooting last week?
Utah comes through with a typical response:
My response is “dear, whomever did the shot had no care about being found out and executed.” Also, Utah used death by gun shot as a response to the changes to execution by non-Constitutional means.
Anon, or not try to dictate in a car wash.
Kiss my grits!
Right now hearing a crowd of folks walking down the street shouting “Free DC”.
BiD, I’m very sorry you have to put up with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/08/28/us/minneapolis-school-shooting-minnesota
Minnesota school shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/10/arts/television/polly-holiday-dead.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/melissa-hortman-killed-john-hoffman-political-shootings/
Minnesota Rep. Hortman and husband killed, Sen. Hoffman and wife wounded in politically motivated shootings, Gov. Walz says
*How quickly we forget when we don’t say their names.
Charle Kirk wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk
His salary from Turning Point went from $27,ooo t0 $300,000. Alittle skimming going on?
thank you for the clarification BiD, hard to keep track of all the shootings
For some reason, I just can’t put my finger on it, I’m not inclined to watch cable news tonight. OK, it’s to avoid hearing ad nauseum what a tragedy Kirk’s death is. Sorry, I don’t care enough to tolerate that shit to get a pittance of other news. I wonder what Guy’s doing on Guys’s Grocery Games or David on My Lottery Dream Home tonight? Or who’s being featured on Rock Legends? Oh, the choices…
So I guess this means Trump can get away with letting Putin get away with invading Poland
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/minnesota-house-democrats-choose-new-leader-after-former-speaker-melissa-hortman-killed-in-political-attack/ar-AA1Ma8ib?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Minnesota House Democrats choose new leader to fill leadeership spot of slain Melissa Hortman.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/09/politics/virginia-special-election-house?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_msn
Democrat James Walkinshaw will win a special election in Virginia’s 11th Congressional District, CNN’s Decision Desk projects, bolstering Democratic numbers in the House and cutting down on an already slim Republican majority.
With Tuesday’s results, House Speaker Mike Johnson will now only be able to afford to lose two Republicans on party-line votes as opposed to three.
https://www.latintimes.com/ice-officers-no-longer-required-seek-approval-before-arrests-immigration-sweeps-expand-589334
ICE officers are no longer required to obtain prior approval before making arrests, ending a policy in place for more than 15 years, according to an NBC News report citing six current and former officials from ICE and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
*They haven’t been doing that this year, anyway…and not all of them are ICE.
ps – Reports are that ICE is in Harlem.
Pogo
First three episodes of new season Only Murders in the building on Hulu. Also, first three epsodes of Tny & Ziva on Paramount. Blood of my Blood on Starz. No news necessary.
Update on drone attack in Poland.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-says-russian-drones-downed-in-its-airspace-during-attack-on-ukraine/ar-AA1Mf1Vn?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Jamie, thx. Enjoying a Tom Petty show on AXS right now. But those sound promising. Always sorta liked Tony & Zina characters on NCIS. It’s on my list of gotta check it out.
When the guns turn o all of us:
https://open.substack.com/pub/theinsurgency/p/when-the-guns-turn-on-all-of-us?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Amateur Hour
They arrested him after that for obstruction. The catch all charge for anyone who says “I’m not your guy.”
Patel’s skill set is flattering Trump.
Let’s get back to Poland & Epstein.
U.S. Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker sorted it all out: “We stand by our NATO Allies in the face of these airspace violations and will defend every inch of NATO territory”
So we can stop worrying. (is there a sarcasm emoji?)
well, I just had some chocolate from a San Francisco boutique chocolatier, and while I usually don’t like boutique chocolates, this chef did them right:
https://sf.eater.com/2025/5/16/24423864/stay-sweet-sf-chocolate-san-francisco
they are the best of this type of artisan truffle I’ve ever had
except they didn’t and aren’t
If we had our own Q-Anon we’d start a conspiracy story that Patel ordered the hit. Don’t need a rationale.
i didn’t know Kirk had gone back to pressuring Trump to release Epstein files.
Kirk’s shifting positions:
In July 2025, following the release of a Justice Department memo, Kirk initially called for the public release of the Epstein files and criticized the White House’s handling of the matter. He later softened his position after speaking with President Trump, stating that he would trust the administration and move on from the issue for the time being.
Reversing his position again: But recently Kirk re-engaged with the issue on his radio show, insisting, “we’re not moving on” and suggesting the “ball was in the administration’s court” to take further action.
— Google AI Gemini
At first glance, they might look like harmless throwbacks, tapping into nostalgia for World War II–era recruitment art. But the deliberate choice to seemingly exclude women and people of color — while centering White men as the singular face of America’s future — is anything but harmless.
The slogans themselves, lifted straight from wartime propaganda — “Your Nation Needs You,” “Build America’s Future”— reinforce the message. Wrapped in patriotic urgency, they leave little room for dissent. Who could argue with national pride without being accused of disloyalty? That’s the trap propaganda sets: it makes exclusion feel like duty.
*They’re hot off of the propaganda press.
One single shot from long range with ideal vantage points, and they still haven’t caught the shooter- kind of looks like a professional hit
Whomever made the hit was quite a marksman. Military?
Reasons: Intentional to distract from Epstein? Bigger than that? Just convenient?
Didn’t realize Kirk was pushing for release of the files. Maybe Don-Old did put out a hit on him…and to send a message to other alt-right mouthpieces to shut up about Jeffrey.
Remember, tRUMPsky did tell folks to “get over it” when children were shot and killed, so there’s no way he gives a rat’s rear end about Kirk.
Trump was so quick in announcing Kirk’s death. It’s almost like he was excited to do it
listen, the Republicans had 11 Venezuelans and three North Koreans murdered last week. Yes, I believe they will murder in an attempt to achieve their goals
when you get mixed up with bad people bad things happen and these billionaire Republicans are bad people
Left jump on this one now:
Kirk was silenced over his stance on Epstein files.
Thus killing three birds with one stone since they will blame it on the left and it will take the eyes off Epstein.
do you understand how hard it is to get away from a manhunt with all law-enforcement hunting you and cameras everywhere?
we had pictures of Luigi’s face pretty soon after he murdered that healthcare executive
And yet…….
‘zackly
lol nice screenname, see wut u did there
🙄 Poobah, for sarcasm I’m fond of the rolling eyes emoji.
I have not watched the Kirk video (and have no need to traumatize myself doing so), but as I’ve been reading the news, there are mentions of a guy behind him gesturing with his hand. Just wondering if anything looked off.
Sturg – That’s the way it looks. A triangulation of convenience.
Craig posted a screenshot above, there is no one standing behind Kirk, he was sitting against a backdrop
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is out and married, and was a Soros Fund employee??
you learn something everyday
“When you sow the wind….”
I expect to see more violence from both the right and the left. It hasn’t been that long ago that NRA gun enthusiast were talking about the violence they could do. It was just a matter of time for the radical left to get involved. Too many guns and too many unsupervised shooting ranges to practice.
I suspect the “200” yards is a guess that has been repeated until it is fact. But if so, It wouldn’t take a trained sniper to make the shot, just someone with a little practice. It was a neck shot , so the shooter shot straight, just a little high. A trained sniper would have blown his heart out at 200 yards.
Jack
wasn’t a neck shot, don’t know why people are saying that*, the video is out there, he was hit in the chest
no evidence at all on the shooter’s ideology (or lack of)
you gotta be pretty cold to not miss due to nerves in that environment
and you incidentally make a good point about training because if the shooter was indeed on that distant rooftop, he was significantly elevated, which is another ballistic calculation that has to be made and I don’t know anything about that so I wouldn’t know what the calculation is
someone who can confidently shoot at distance and elevation with a single shot indicates training
The fact that he is not in custody indicates training
*(oh, i remember: that’s what a bystander said to the press, you can’t know what you saw in a moment like that)
i’m deducing it was a large-caliber bullet from the video, also, not a .223, and the shooter had to dial the scope in somewhere
should narrow it down a bit
if you don’t think gun policy in the US is insane, go to any sporting goods store in a red state look at all the weapons of war you can buy in 15 minutes or less
Soccer balls, athleisure wear, weapons of war!
Walmart still sells that shit too
it is straight up insane to let this society of morons and kooks have free access to guns, my people
“He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in,” he said.
*And, for that accurate statement, MSNBC fired Matthew Dowd.
The left ran a masterclass on how to say the most tone-deaf, unproductive shit possible today
we are losing the culture war for a reason
The Lotus the Cat blog that Jamie posted said it perfectly, nothing but something approximating this should be said, for at least a day:
…and pardon my over-participation, but even saying “it must stop” is stupid, there are so many guns in this country, that it will take generations to fix this problem with an earnest effort, and nobody with the power is even doing that.
Despite that, another common thread that I’ve observed over the last 10 years or so from all of these shootings is the guns used in them tend to be recently acquired from retailers, I bet a 30 day waiting period would end a lot of this stuff, 90 days would end even more
How is pointing out that Kirk used hate speech on the regular tone-deaf or unproductive? Kirk’s claim to fame was running his mouth to sow division. Dowd said it in a pretty carefully worded way, too.
It’s BS.
The Yankees had a moment of silence for him tonight, but not for kids who got shot, nor a Dem Representative who was assassinated in her home less than three months ago.
Republicans love guns. To prove it, a Dem should introduce a gun law and name it after Charlie Kirk (like the Brady Bill) and see if Republicans will vote for it. No, they’d probably argue using Charlie’s own words: “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”
“Every.” “Single.” “Year.”
for the same reason you said it was “carefully worded”
I like your Brady Bill idea though 👍
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