75 thoughts on “Bring Back Assault Weapon Ban”

  1. but let’s not think it is a panacea and go on our merry shoot-em-up cowboy ways just with smaller weapons.

    remember also that ban laws always have a grandfather clause, a lot of grandfathers are out there armed to the gills and many of those are in the throes of political old timers disease.

  2. the typical handgun magazine holds around 15 rounds doesn’t it?  so they can’t kill as many school kids with one of those as they could with an assault weapon….  aren’t we missing the point here?

  3. ny times via msn:

    Tools of Trump’s Fixer: Payouts, Intimidation and the Tabloids
    As accounts of past sexual indiscretions threatened to surface during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, the job of stifling potentially damaging stories fell to his longtime lawyer and all-around fixer, Michael D. Cohen.

    To protect his boss at critical junctures in his improbable political rise, the lawyer relied on intimidation tactics, hush money and the nation’s leading tabloid news business, American Media Inc., whose top executives include close Trump allies.
    Mr. Cohen’s role has come under scrutiny amid recent revelations that he facilitated a payment to silence a porn star, but his aggressive behind-the-scenes efforts stretch back years, according to interviews, emails and other records.
    They intensified as Mr. Trump’s campaign began in the summer of 2015, when a former hedge-fund manager told Mr. Cohen that he had obtained photographs of Mr. Trump with a bare-breasted woman. The man said Mr. Cohen first blew up at him, then steered him to David J. Pecker, chairman of the tabloid company, which sometimes bought, then buried, embarrassing material about his high-profile friends and allies.
    In early 2016, after a legal affairs website uncovered old court cases in which a female former Trump business partner had accused him of sexual misconduct, Mr. Cohen released a statement suggesting that the woman, Jill Harth, “would acknowledge” that the story was false. Ms. Harth said the statement was made without her permission, and that she stands by her claims. It was not the last time Mr. Cohen would present a denial on behalf of a woman who had alleged a sexual encounter with Mr. Trump.
    In August of that year, Mr. Cohen learned details of a deal that American Media had struck with a former Playboy model, Karen McDougal, that prevented her from going public about an alleged affair with Mr. Trump. Mr. Cohen was not representing anyone in the confidential agreement, but he was apprised of it by Ms. McDougal’s lawyer, and earlier had been made aware of her attempt to tell her story by the media company, according to interviews and an email reviewed by The New York Times.
    Two months later, Mr. Cohen played a direct role in a similar deal involving an adult film star, Stephanie Clifford, who used the stage name Stormy Daniels, and who once said she had had an affair with Mr. Trump. Last week, Mr. Cohen said he used his own money for the $130,000 payment to her, which has prompted a complaint alleging that Mr. Cohen violated campaign finance regulations. Legal experts also have noted that the payment on behalf of his client may have violated New York’s ethics rules.
    […]
    It was July 2015 when Mr. Cohen received a phone call from Jeremy Frommer, a hedge-fund manager turned digital entrepreneur, who had obtained photos of Mr. Trump appearing to autograph the breasts of a topless woman from the estate of Bob Guccione, the founder of Penthouse magazine. Mr. Cohen was not pleased.
    “He was in a rage,” Mr. Frommer said in an interview. “He’s like, ‘If you show those photos, I’m gonna take you down.’”
    [….continues…]

     

  4. The assault rifles, AR15 style or AK47 style, are more accurate than holding a hand gun. The bullets are also different they tend to blow out large chunks of body when they hit and tumble. If I am in a firefight I want a rifle in my hands, my side arm can stay strapped down for use when I run out of ammunition for the rifle.

  5. news4jax:
    Marches, walkouts and sit-ins: Gun control battle heads to the street
     
    March 24 event organized by March For Our Lives
     

    hope they also plan getting their parents out to vote at primaries coming up and don’t lose interest to do same come November general election.

     

  6. “…they tend to blow out large chunks of body”

    bbronc, you can’t mean it’s not the greater number the school shooters are after but the quality of the damage done to each victim?  

    they’re going for records and their 15 minutes of fame in some of these cases.  I agree some tho’ are out to inflict as much pain as possible in vengeance.

  7. Ban assault rifles… well… yeah.  But it won’t happen until we have an agreeable Congress/Senate and a President who will sign the bill.

    Biden is running…  again…  good… I get to not vote for him in the primary another time (good man… but his time has come and gone, IMO).

  8. Patd – I will only guess about the murderers mindset.  Quantity is obviously one piece, that is where the large drum magazines or large capacity magazines come in and killing is another, which goes with the assault rifle.  The assault rifles are for killing and that includes the ammunition. A hand gun with a large capacity magazine, nineteen cartridges for a 9mm, you still need to drop the magazine and load another.  An AR-15 with a one hundred round magazine is much more before needing to reload.

  9. Hows about going for magazine limits AND reinstate the assault weapons ban?  I don’t have “modern” pistols – I have a Colt M1911 and a 9MM German Luger Parabellum – they hold 7 and 8 cartridges in the clips respectively.  Yes, handguns do kill more people annually than any other firearm.  Of course – more people have them and they are typically stored in a more handy place than rifles. And 2/3 of all firearm related deaths are suicides – which are much easier to accomplish with a handgun than a long gun.  But here’s the compelling stat IMHO we should be concerned about – “Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.” Twenty five times higher than other high income nations.  Sad.

  11. also today at the guardian:

    Trump-Russia inquiry: Manafort under pressure after reports that Gates has flipped

     

    Paul Manafort’s longtime business associate Rick Gates has struck deal with special counsel, reports say

    [….]
    The reports of Gates’ possible cooperation come after prosecutors stated in court on Friday that they had unearthed additional evidence of criminal activity by Manafort.
     
    Experts say any deal with Gates would only be struck if investigators were confident he had valuable testimony to offer on a more senior figure in their ongoing inquiry.
    The two developments – the alleged additional evidence of wrongdoing and Gates’s possible testimony – could give Mueller and his team additional ammunition to force Manafort to cooperate in their inquiry or face a potentially tough prison sentence if he is found guilty of the crimes he has been charged with.
     
    If Manafort were to cooperate in the probe it could potentially offer Mueller’s team a wealth of new information about the inner workings of the Trump campaign and any possible interactions with Russian officials.
    [,,,continues…]

  13. I get so irritated by the pro-gun argument against any restrictions (let’s quit using the word “control”) that it won’t eliminate the killing. Of course not, and stoplights don’t eliminate accidents but they reduce the risk.

  14. hey, there went the john oliver vid posted at 8:41!  whassup, boss?  no, I didn’t edit so that can’t be the reason.

     

  15. Rifles/carbines. I’ve been armed with the M1 Rifle, m14 Rifle, m16 Rifle, M1 Carbine, M2 Carbine.
    I was provided with the ‘key’ that made my M14 fully automatic. That’s the weapon we/I took to Vietnam in ’65. Heavy and quite cumbersome, especially in vehicles. Managed to scrounge a .45 cal ‘grease gun’ from the SF. Still very heavy but not so cumbersome. Never fired it.

  18. The assault weapons ban did work.   There is no reason for anyone to have a military-style gun.  If you need that to hunt you should be banned from hunting

  19. Ya know, the “assault weapon” is a style and has nothing to do with the lethality of the weapon. That is why the ban wasn’t really effective. Change some of the style points and it is no longer banned. Of course it is easy to add those style points back on with after market products. And what are we talking about when we say “ban”. It sounds impressive and total but in the end it isn’t much. So really “ban assault weapons” is just a political statement that fools your supporters into believing you are doing something. Not a real policy.

    Jack

  20. If you are really serious you start talking about the things that make the weapon an effective killing machine. Rapid fire, large capacity, ease of concealment ect.

    And you don’t just talk about stopping the manufacture of or importation of but regulations of the current stock of such weapons already in civilian hands.

    Jack

  22. Over the weekend I heard one of the gun control idiots try to draw a parallel between guns and cars – we don’t ban cars although they cause deaths.  OK, let’s draw that parallel.  Every car on the road must comply with regulations regarding its safety before it can even be sold, every car on the road must be registered with the state before it can be used on the road and every driver must pass a safety test and be licensed before they can drive one of those cars on the road.  I’m good with all that for cars and think it should apply to guns as well.

    And speaking of guns, E.J. Dionne is talking with great clarity at Wapo today.

    The surest sign a political regime is failing is its inability to do anything about a problem universally seen as urgent that has some obvious remedies. And it’s a mark of political corruption when unaccountable cliques block solutions that enjoy broad support and force their selfish interests to prevail over the common good.

    On gun violence, the United States has become a corrupt failed state.

    This is the only conclusion to draw from the endless enraging replays of the same political paralysis, no matter how many children are gunned down at our schools or how many innocent Americans are slaughtered at shopping centers and other public places. Whatever happens, we can’t ban assault weapons, we can’t strengthen background checks, we can’t do anything.

     
    Like him or hate him, E.J. ain’t the fool the RW idiots who comment at WaPo think he is.

  23. One other thought,

    There is no second amendment right, the second amendment is moot as it deals with the volunteer militia and we haven’t done that for over a hundred years. All of our military and police forces are paid professionals. The second amendment is a meaningless anachronism.

    Jack

  24. Now given that there is no second amendment right then everything is on the table and we need to decide how we accommodate all the competing interests. From hunters and hobbyist, and those who want to defend against tyranny to the need for a safe community where gun violence is rare.

    Yes in my opinion all sides need to be at the table.

    Jack

  25. Jack, SCOTUS looked at that militia language a bunch of years ago beginning with the 1958 Miller decision (which said sawed off shotguns aren’t related to the preservation of a well regulated militia so could be limited or banned) followed by the Lewis case (1980, limiting the 2nd amendment protections to guns that were related to the preservation of a well regulated militia consistent with Miller) and in 2008 laid the “well regulated Militia” language to rest in Heller and decided it was interesting but did not limit the right to bear arms language, which Scalia writing for the majority found to be a natural right.  Before you throw the shoe, I agree with you and disagreed with SCOTUS on the issue as it was decided in Heller.

  26. Pogo… thanks for your last post.  It makes me think of how many times on this blog we’ve tried to tell independent voters that it would be better for the country if they at least considered the make up of the Supreme Court when casting their vote this past presidential election.  If your above post doesn’t make them see why… then my guess is that nothing will.

  27. Pogo

    As the supreme court was easily persuaded by popular opinion, why should we let them decide our version of it any more than the NRA does.  Just keep repeating it loud and long. Especially as the  NRA uses the historical argument that backs up my opinion. We need to be more like the Baptists and less like the Catholics. For  a Baptist each individual get to determine the meaning of the bible where as a Catholic relies on a higher authority.  After all there is a full paragraph there it is all important and original intent is also important. Use their logic against them.

    Jack

  29. Excellent Mueller overview by Robert Kuttner here. He nails the crux of the case, how Trumpco falls apart as Mueller draws in: “Trump and his family relied on massive bailouts of his failing business enterprises from Russian oligarchs close to the Kremlin. When he became a presidential candidate, the Russians treated him as an asset ― a useful idiot, as Stalinists used to put it.”

  30. We let the Supremes decide what the law means for the country because they’ve told us that is their role in our country and we have acquiesced, rightly in my view, to their decision. God knows we don’t want Congress or the President to have that role.

    RR, damn right.

  31. Jamie, that leads to more clarification….  what does scotus here mean by “individual”?   only citizens, children, the mentally unstable, domestic abusers, developmentally challenged, the prior convicted, those with or showing signs of dementia?    will the limitations include affidavit/certification of proper training on use and safety, certain public places off limits?

  32. If you edit a comment which contains a video it goes back to being a link until you refresh it, is my experience…

  33.  

    “We need to be more like the Baptists and less like the Catholics. For  a Baptist each individual get to determine the meaning of the bible where as a Catholic relies on a higher authority.”

    jack, looks like a lot are taking the zen path of doing nothing

  34. There is already gun control……Thompson sub-machine guns, automatic weaponry, and sawed-off shotguns of specified lengths are currently banned.

  35. Pat is that the zen equivalent of “Here comes the boss, look busy”

    Which btw is  what I hear  when someone says  “assault weapons ban”

    Jack

  36. “We let the Supremes decide what the law means for the country”

    Well if that was true we would still have “separate but equal” as the law of the land.

    But the folks fighting for Black civil rights didn’t accept that and they changed the supreme courts mind.

    BTW the NRA doesn’t follow that rule  either.

    Jack

  37. miss marjory would be very proud of her students.

    described as “a champion of environmentalism, women’s suffrage and civil rights who received the Presidential Medal of Freedom when she was 103” along with this excerpt from the daily beast:

    The same day in 1993 when Marjory Stoneman Douglas received the medal from President Bill Clinton at the White House, she was invited to witness the signing of the Brady Bill, which established a federal background check for those seeking to purchase firearms.

    to learn more about her, wiki bio:

    Marjory Stoneman Douglas

  39. So the president is going to have a listening session with high school students.   No word on where the students are coming from…pretty sure they won’t be from Parkland –too soon for them.

  40. KGC

    There are 3000 kids at that school they can find 10 who can be bullied to toe the line.  But I bet it ain’t the ones who are vocal and calling BS.

    Jack

  41. cnn has more from that goper deep pockets donor:

    “When the tragedy occurred, I heard it instantly on the television and I felt my heart just drop,” Hoffman told Cabrera. “I felt I was holding my heart in my hands. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that what I had been doing, which was hounding elected officials to vote for better gun law control, was not going to happen. So I felt I had to do it on my own.”

    Hoffman told CNN he needed to reach out to every Republican donor across the country and persuade them to pass gun legislation. Hoffman emailed six GOP stalwarts, including Florida Gov. Rick Scott and former Gov. Jeb Bush, according to the Times.

    “I have heard from a couple of them already. And they are endorsing the concept totally,” Hoffman said. “And I’m still waiting to hear back from the others. But I believe we can start a movement of consensus here and be successful in achieving our objective.”
    “All I want to do is to restore sanity and adopt this assault weapon ban so that our children can get back in school and be safe and not get shot,” he added.

     

  42. Not too soon.  Those wonderful young folks were on the Sunday shows telling politicians things like, if you aren’t going to do anything about this then GET OUT of office.

    The NRA-owned critters need do close the gun show looohole, too.

    You gotta show ID, pass a test & have insurance to drive…same thing is needed with guns.

    Heck, you even have to have a permit for a drone after a certain weight limit. (Half of a pound?)  Critters need to get ahead of drones, too, since they are starting to buzz planes.

  43. Jack,

    I don’t think they will go there — too risky with the level of activism.  They might go to a school  where there was a shooting maybe 5 years ago –  a more mature outlook with the appearance of the long view  oh wait that would be Sandy Hook .   I think it will be like the fake cabinet meetings – where everyone says how wonderful Trump is and it is all about identifying crazy people and keeping them from getting guns.  No one will mention his walking back the O era rules making it harder for crazy people to get a gun.    Blame will be placed on the FBI and local sheriff for not acting on tips.  The argument will be no change in the law is required – the law just needs to be enforced.

  45. sorry for the length even tho it isn’t the whole article….

    newsweek:  How an Alt-Right Bot Network Took Down Al Franken
    White nationalist provocateurs, a pair of fake news sites, an army of Twitter bots and other cyber tricks helped derail Democratic Senator Al Franken last year, new research shows.
    While everyone has been focused on Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election to support Donald Trump, the Franken takedown originated in—and was propelled by—a strategic online campaign with digital tentacles reaching to, of all places, Japan. Analysts have now mapped out how Hooters pinup girl and lad-mag model Leeann Tweeden’s initial accusation against Franken became effective propaganda after right-wing black ops master Roger Stone first hinted at the allegation.
    A pair of Japan-based websites, created the day before Tweeden came forward, and a swarm of related Twitter bots made the Tweeden story go viral and then weaponized a liberal writer’s criticism of Franken. The bot army—in tandem with prominent real, live members of the far right who have Twitter followers in the millions, such as Mike Cernovich—spewed thousands of posts, helping the #FrankenFondles hashtag and the “Franken is a groper” meme effectively silence the testimonies of eight former female staffers who defended the Minnesota Democrat before he resigned last year.  
    The operation commenced on November 15, when Stone—who is now banned from Twitter for racism and profanity—tweeted from one of his accounts “Roger Stone says it’s Al Franken’s ‘time in the barrel.’ Franken next in long list of Democrats accused of ‘grabby’ behavior.”
    On the same day, a developer named Atsufumi Otsuka registered a web domain in Japan called RealUSA.site, and a fake-news website soon emerged at that web address, according to research shared with the voting rights outfit Unhack the Vote.
    Tweeden’s account of Franken groping her was first amplified by a network of right-wing media, including KABC in Los Angeles, where Tweeden has a radio show,
    The Hill, Infowars and Breitbart, which mobilized within hours of Stone’s tweet and the release of a picture of a Tweeden and Franken at a USO performance before he was a senator.
    By November 17, the trending of “Al Franken” was officially also a Russian intelligence operation, according to the Alliance for Securing Democracy, an organization tracking Russian social media accounts, based on a sample taken that day of 600 of the fake accounts.
    Five days later, on November 20, right-wing provocateur Charles Johnson tweeted, “Thinking of offering money to people who go on tv and say Al Frank is a predator.”
    That same day, Otsuka registered a second domain in Japan for another fake-news site, VotyUS.me. Both accounts used the same Google analytics account ID and Apple app ID, and the name of the servers and registration for both sites were virtually identical, researchers found.
    On December 7, just before Democrats started calling for Franken to step down, the freshly minted Japan-based fake sites went to work and re-published an article by Ijeoma Oluo, a liberal writer, urging women and activists to stop supporting Franken. Oluo had posted the opinion piece, titled “Dear Al Franken, I’ll Miss You but You Can’t Matter Anymore,” on a much smaller website, with a reach of 10,000 followers.
    Suddenly, thousands of apparently fake Twitter accounts were tweeting the title of the article—but linking back to one of the two Japanese-registered fake-news sites created in conjunction with the right-wing anti-Franken campaign. The bot accounts normally tweeted about celebrities, bitcoin and sports, but on that day, they were mobilized against Franken. Researchers have found that each bot account had 30 to 60 followers, all Japanese. The first follower for each account was either Japanese or Russian.
    “We began to suspect that this legitimate opinion piece [by Oluo] had been weaponized for political gain by dozens of twitter accounts, all of them repeatedly tweeting links to the two domains registered in Japan in late November,” Unhack the Vote’s Mike Farb wrote in Medium. “Strong similarities between the accounts combined with clear connection to the two recently-established Japanese websites verified our suspicions.”
    [….continues…]

     

     

  46. So I’m out getting Mrs. P lunch and am behind a car with 3 stickers on its trunk lid.  On the left is a COEXIST sticker.  In the middle is a sticker with the Hendrix quote  “When the Power of Lover is greater than the Love of Power we will know Peace” and on the right is a “Protected by Smith and Wesson” sticker. not any real contradictions there, but an unusual juxtaposition of views.

  47. also from that newsweek story:

    One question remains: Who is paying for this operation? The researchers believe that the operation was expensive. “We estimate dozens of hours of initial development time and at least one person working full time to produce and distribute content,” one of the researchers told Newsweek. “Additionally, it’s likely that an existing bot farm of compromised computers is basically being rented as a distributed host for these accounts.”

  48. Jack, (http://trailmix.cc/home/2018/02/19/bring-back-assault-weapon-ban/#comment-68398) no, not in my mind.  It’s because SCOTUS can change its mind to conform to modern societal norms that we can have some faith in the institution to do that using the Constitution’s words as their starting point.  Separate but equal was a bit of a starting point 30 years after the end of the Civil War in Plessy v. Ferguson that evolved almost 60 years later to Brown v. Bd. of Education, followed by the Civil Rights Act a decade later and 40 years after that a black President.  The law, whether by legislation, ballot box or judicial decision moves a bit slowly, but it does move eventually to reflect societal norms.  We’re waiting for that now WRT shitloads of issues, including gun control.  For Congress the NRA money is slowing them down.  SCOTUS members are tied to their respective ideological bases, and the President…well, idiot.  I’m not holding my breath on this issue.

  50. Jack, like it or not Heller established that the right to bear arms is an individual right unrelated to the existence of a volunteer militia.  It did not say that the right is unlimited, but it struck down the DC ordinance that would remove the right.  Patd & Jamie’s comments about what restrictions can be place don the right are well taken and are what the various lawmakers and courts at all levels are left to deal with – with an answer ultimately coming from POTUS on each newly proposed restriction that it decides to review when it’s properly presented to POTUS for a decision.

    One of the thorniest issues is how to deal with the mentally ill and gun ownership – the mentally ill don’t necessary forego any constitutional rights by virtue of their illnesses that I am aware of – at least not until their illness leads them into court.  The HIPAA of 1996 Privacy Rule is a huge problem for those who advocate against the mentally ill possessing firearms – one that Congress could (and would have to) change, BTW,  I don’t hear any real sound on that front.

  51. now that it’s the in thing to blame Obama on the Russian interference, perhaps memories should be refreshed.

    from politico: Russian Election Meddling Is All On Mitch McConnell, Not Barack Obama

    Mitch McConnell refused to do the right thing for his country when the Russians attacked us. Instead, he did what he always does; when asked by President Obama to take a unified stand against Russia, McConnell threatened President Obama.

    [….]
    The Senate Majority Leader of the United States, Republican Mitch McConnell (R-KY), threatened President Obama against publicizing Russian meddling before the 2016 election.
    “It was Barack Obama who wanted to issue a joint statement condemning Russian election meddling with Republicans, but Mitch McConnell refused to cooperate,” Jason Easley had to explain in response to Trump transition team member and House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes'(R-CA) absurd suggestion that if the Russians did attack the United States and Donald Trump and the Russian Congress were doing nothing, it was Obama’s fault.
    On December 9th, 2016, Adam Entous, Ellen Nakashima and Greg Miller published a very important piece in the Washington Post that revealed a behind the scenes tussle between President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
    They wrote that by mid-September, the Obama White House was looking to take action on Russia and asked, in a secret meeting with the Gang of 12 – a bipartisan group of House and Senate leaders – for a show of “show of solidarity and bipartisan unity” against Russian meddling in the election.
    Guess what Obama got.
    A big fat no, led by Mitch McConnell. A kick in the gut to democracy and patriotism by the Republican Senator.
    “McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.”
    And again, in case anyone missed it, “In September, during a secret briefing for congressional leaders, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) voiced doubts about the veracity of the intelligence, according to officials present.”
    [….]
    It was not the Democrats or President Obama or the media or the intelligence agenices who refused to stand up to Russia’s attack on the U.S.
    There is no denying, however, that when this attack was going on, it was Devin Nunes and Mitch McConnell who were burying it in doubt. Nunes poured denial water on the evidence, saying: “I’ll be the first one to come out and point at Russia if there’s clear evidence, but there is no clear evidence — even now. There’s a lot of innuendo, lots of circumstantial evidence, that’s it.”
    But it was Mitch McConnell who threatened Obama, warning him that McConnell would see it as partisan politics if the President were to protect the United States against an attack from a hostile foreign power. McConnell refused to join the President in a show of solidarity against the Russian attack.
    We always land here, at McConnell’s grotesquely unpatriotic obstruction of President Obama and distorted-by-hyper-partisanship-lens leadership.
    This is on McConnell. The Russian attack on our election and the current, ongoing destruction of our democracy are Mitch McConnell’s legacy.
     

  52. KC, WV was flooded Friday – Sunday with temps in the upper 30s – a little wet snow thrown in for effect Saturday, gone by Sunday p.m.  Today it’s flirting with upper 60s, and forecast is for 78 tomorrow. No rain for a couple of days.  We’re in the 6 more weeks of winter the rodent predicted.  Some winter.  If we could just get the water where it needs to be.

  53. Well….  we are expecting it to be 60 degrees tomorrow and 69 degrees Wednesday.  Who the hell ever heard of temps that high in NH in February.  The ski areas are having a really hard season this year.

  54. the guardian: Students stage White House protest as Trump explores gun reform
    Dozens of teenage students lay down on the pavement in front of the White House on Monday to demand presidential action on gun control after 17 people were killed in a school shooting in Florida.
     
    Parent and educators joined the gathering, where protesters held their arms crossed at their chests. Two activists covered themselves with an American flag while another held a sign asking: “Am I next?”
    […continues…]

     

  56. What lessons have I learned from this Presidents Day?  One is that when your brakes break you don’t get to drive very far afterwards.

    It is  not looking good for SFB. The stress of trying to avoid going to Florence, Colorado is wearing on the senile old man.  One of the ways of looking at this is that Mueller is purposely toying with the orange mind.  He could have indicted everyone weeks ago, but is having a little bit of fun right now.

    The greedy old perverts, and possibly a few dems, need to be very concerned about millions of seventeen and eighteen year old high school students going to the ballot this year.  We could not vote in ’68.

  58. In the first weeks of the trump Administration, the republican Senate and House passed the Guns for Maniacs Bill, and trump signed it into law. This makes every member of Congress who voted for it an accomplice to all the maniacs who shoot up schools, killing our children.

    I would like to see a list of the names and the pictures of all those kids. I want that document sent to every voter in America along with the name and picture of the local republican mis-Representative and Senator who voted to kill those kids. List each perpetrator/pol as being Pro-Death.

  59. RR, if this keeps up if it ain’t corn early in the morning what snow there is will be bulletproof for Rick.  Hope he can put a very sharp edge on a ski and can hold it while making turns. You guys there now or is that later?

  60. An assault weapons ban is easy- one can disingenuously turn it into a semantic argument, but it’s as simple as making it illegal to manufacture, sell, or possess guns with features that only exist to make it possible to quickly murder scores of human-beings, e.g. 30-round clips, bump-stocks, automatic-firing mechanisms, whatever.  Sure, one could modify a legally-acquired gun after purchase to equip it with such features, but then, if caught with such a weapon, would be subject to criminal prosecution if such legislation were enacted.  It’s that fucking simple.

  62. You’re an evil motherfucker if you can stand idly-by and watch kids get murdered and buried just so you can keep your shitty shotgun in your closet so that you, too might get the chance to murder someone, someday, also- especially if you’re in a position of power to do something about it.

    Have a great day!

  63. BB – You may be corrrct.  Mueller might whip Donny into such a tizzy that he’ll tweet something that incriminates Trumpco.

    Things look diceier for Jared every day.

  65. BiD – I suspect that SFB will offer up kushie as lunch.  The guy has no loyalties to anyone.  He will do whatever his little pea pod brain comes up with as a way to avoid communal showers in Florence Colorado prison.  So far as we know, and that is not much, the only people we know of so far who are not complicit are M, his current wife, and B, his known your heir.

  66. Bink shoots.  Bink scores.  Absolutely.  There is no lack of evil motherfuckers out there. I would gladly get rid of every gun I own if it would save the life of one child.  I care so little about my guns (all but 2 inherited from my father) they are in a gun safe 650 miles from here.

  68. I think the student leaders from Parkland are reacting perfectly in the time of

    Trump – they are certainly saying exactly what they are feeling.

  69. Pogo  – firearms in the home, probably goes back more than a few generations.  For most, almost all, Americans, there is no reason to keep firearms in the house.  If you live in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming a rifle is accepted as part of the family. It is used to shoot game for your dinner.  If you live in NYC, you have no reason to keep an AR-15 next to you on the bed.  I grew up with a 22 in the umbrella stand in the corner.  But, that was in Iowa and we used that one, and others, to hunt dinner.

    I do not care about any “arguments” that a combat rifle is necessary to hunt or protect the hearth.  There are none.

  73. Poobah, that gatewaypundit website is what?

    The Gateway Pundit is a far-right, pro-Trump website. It was founded after the United States presidential election in 2004, according to its founder Jim Hoft, to “speak the truth” and to “expose the wickedness of the left”. 

    from Wikipedia.

    Anyone would pay attention to it why?  As KC sez, Yikes.

  75. “…simple as making it illegal to manufacture, sell, or possess guns with features that only exist to make it possible to quickly murder scores of human-beings….”

    bink, have entertained the same idea myself as to car manufacturers and those who sell vehicles that can go above the highest speed legal limits.  exceptions would only be for law enforcement and first responders.  more deaths because of high speed everyday than from many many other causes but are ignored just another  quirky eccentricity of the American culture…. like guns.

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