Another GOP Health Care Bluff

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“You know, I could maybe give you 10 reasons why this bill shouldn’t be considered. But Republicans campaigned on this so often that you have a responsibility to carry out what you said in the campaign. That’s pretty much as much of a reason as the substance of the bill.” — Sen. Chuck Grassley, Iowa Republican, to reporters Thursday.

Another Republican, Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, also tells the real story: “If we do nothing, I think it has a tremendous impact on the 2018 elections. And whether or not Republicans still maintain control and we have the gavel.”

There you have it: The reason GOP health care “reform” will end up nowhere — again. Republicans are just trying to show their political base that they are really REALLY trying. I stand by my initial thoughts three months ago when this running gag started — The GOP’s Big Lie To Its Own Base. Republican leaders don’t want to repeal Obamacare because they have no idea how to replace it and they certainly don’t want to own something that repeals its most popular benefits.

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  3. A lengthy read on the trump tower laundromat from this past summer.

    From the article —

    Sater apparently remains close to Trump’s inner circle. Earlier this year, one week before National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired for failing to report meetings with Russian officials, Trump’s personal attorney reportedly hand-delivered to Flynn’s office a “back-channel plan” for lifting sanctions on Russia. The co-author of the plan, according to the Times: Felix Sater.

  4. hey chucky, how many times did the twit promise hc for everybody? huh, what was that you said? oh yeah,  “you have a responsibility to carry out what you said in the campaign.” 

    here’s cnn back in june with trump’s health care promises:
    Trump repeatedly promised that he would cover all Americans when given the chance to repeal and replace Obamacare. He stated that coverage for everyone was “​just human decency” back in February of 2016.
    By then, he had already promised universal coverage. When he was a presidential candidate in 2015, Trump told CBS’s Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes that “everybody’s got to be covered.” He conceded that it may be an “un-Republican” thing to say, but he wanted to ensure that everyone had quality health care.
    “​I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not,” Trump said. He added: “​The government’s gonna pay for it.”
    More recently, as president-elect, Trump reiterated his support for the idea in January.
    “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” he said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

  5. RED ALERT! RED ALERT!
    boss, at 6:52 above, what was that?  have the bots caught up with us for being mean to their clothes-less emperor?  better call IT  to cast a techie  go-away spell .

  8. So Bernie! Is going to have a debate with squeaky and the idiot doctor over single payer versus the new pugn version of TrumpDontCare. Excuse me, but what the hell is he thinking?  Graham and Cassidy are thanking their lucky stars that  Bernie! is giving them the opportunity to snatch victory from the hands of defeat. Goddam narcissist. Please god prove me wrong about him and he stays on the criticize their plan train and doesn’t get on the single payer train.

  9. I agree with your premise that this repeal and replace thingy was going nowhere from the very beginning, Craig.  Much fluffy fury about nothing.

    sj….  lol…  I mean… where the hell does anyone find eye of newt nowadays…

  11. billie bob, the princess dog, just got a new friend named “bu” which is short for “bubala” who looks similar to the puppy pictured above.  she is thought to be a lab beagle mix (with some unknown others thrown in for spice according to the local humane society).

    iow a labbe or beagador as the uppity designer dog fanciers call them.  she’s almost 3 months old and as cute and cuddly as they come.  billie bob isn’t impressed. however, bodhi the cat thinks she’s the cat’s meow.

    will try to preserve her puppydom for prosperity (if I can manage the hi-tech of digital camera/computer complexity) and post a photo of her.

  12. actually, “bu” is a compromise for the 3 top names seriously considered: bubala, buddha dog and bubba girl.  they needed the new name at the shelter for microchip purposes and I had to make an on the spot decision so I went with the 1st two letters of the favored suggestions.  diplomacy at work on the home front.  too bad it’s a past art at the state dept now.

  14. the twit twittering this a.m. according to faux news:

    President Trump fired off a tweetstorm early Friday slamming Sen. Rand Paul, Kim Jong Un, the “Russia hoax,” the Facebook controversy and “Crooked Hillary.” 

    He started with a shot at Paul, the only Republican who so far has come out strongly against the latest ObamaCare overhaul bill.

    “Rand Paul, or whoever votes against Hcare Bill, will forever  (future political campaigns) be known as ‘the Republican who saved ObamaCare,’” Trump tweeted.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky, intends to bring the bill to the floor for vote next week.

    The president pivoted to another big focus of his administration – North Korea.

    “Kim Kong Un of North Korea, who is obviously a madman who doesn’t mind starving or killing his people, will be tested like never before!” Trump tweeted.

    [….]

    But the president didn’t stop there on Friday morning.

    Minutes later, Trump tweeted about the latest controversy over the 2016 presidential election – involving Facebook.

    “The Russia hoax continues, now it’s ads on Facebook. What about the totally biased and dishonest Media coverage in favor of Crooked Hillary?” Trump tweeted, just hours after Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said the social media network would hand over to Congress the political ads purchased by apparent Russian operatives.

    […continues…]

  15. Mr Crawford continues the medical theme by studying the spammer’s origins before it meets its doom. Lab Rat Bot.

    Curious where this spam came from. The structure on most of these things is literally translated English, hence why they’re so stilted. Google translation?

    Think this site deserves higher class junk than spell casters 😉

    Would’ve hoped for a Manafort/Kushner Puti-Pal. Ms Graham Cracker could work her verbal magic. ?

     

  16. Url on that spam says it originated in Providence Utah, but that could be fake. A rare instance of one getting through our registration captcha. Almost had to be done manually.

  18. sjwny, bbronc did say the asses of evil were on his trail again….so maybe this trail too.  we do have our share here of posting less than sweet nothings about the megalomaniac and his mentor…. so could have earned it from that.

  19. Got here for the cute puppy.  Sorry I missed the invader.  We could have had out own Murder on the Orient Express as everyone stabbed, shot, poisoned and generally did away with the victim.

     

  20. Beautiful pup, patd, or representative pup ?. My black ? Baby is particularly snuggly today. Perhaps the first day of ? has him thinking of ?.

     

  22. Man I don’t know what channels Candidate #45 was watching last year but my TV was pretty much all #45 all the time. Senator Sanders got lots of airtime too after he caught fire. (Cable honchos gotta give ’em the old razzle dazzle, razzle dazzle ’em as far as ratings ad buys go. Sequins, glitter, false front ideas & catch phrases. Jazz hands everyone!) Secretary Clinton was an after thought or not a thought many days. I say this truthfully as someone who was not an early Clinton supporter but as someone devoted to sanity & historical accuracy. If what she got was media bias, define media bias, preferably in English, not Russian. Thanks.

    *And speaking of Russian … damn you Jill Stein. What a tool.

     

     

  23. They have to do it ’cause they said they would!!!! What a sorry ass reason to try to take health care away from ordinary citizens. They should be ashamed!

    Speaking of ashamed…

    Here’s a quote from another world leader who spoke at the UN earlier this week, after trumplestiltskin:

    Guess who said this?

    “It will be a great pity if this agreement were to be destroyed by rogue newcomers to the world of politics,” he said. “The ignorant, absurd, and hateful rhetoric, filled with ridiculously baseless allegations, that was uttered before this august body yesterday didn’t befit an organization established to promote peace and respect among nations.” 

     

    Believe it or not, that was Iran’s President, Hassan Rouhani, in response to our blustering, ignorant leader! From this interesting article in The New Yorker!   When our enemies become the voice of reason, sounding more rational and better educated than our President, we ought to be worried! I am! Every day!

    Pat: Bu is the cutest name. Can’t wait to see some pix of your new baby Bu!

     

  28. Eye of newt – mustard seed
    Toe of frog – buttercup
    Wool of bat – holly leaves
    Tongue of dog – houndstongue
    Adders fork – adders tongue
    Blind-worm – okay, a blindworm is a real thing; a tiny snake thought to be venomous

  30. Let us hope that trump does not fulfill tomorrow’s prophecy of the world ending just to get out the of the campaign promise of ending Obamacare.  I thought Obamacare was supposed to blow-up or implode anyway.

     

  31. ‘Get out james comey, you aren’t our homey.  No justice,no peace.’   Howard University students protest comey’s speech.

    I guess the new job is working-out like the last one.  Where is a man to hide?  Blue curtains, of course.

  32. I’ve admitted in this arena that I feel myself entering my dotage. Now I’m trying to sort out what to do about it. I was one of the people doused with agent orange; they keep on admitting to more vets having conditions relating to it. I also picked-up cocci while working in the Nevada desert. And I sense that I have indications of whatchamacallit–starts with a ‘B’, that they now say may be connected to the orange. And why am I having more trouble with reading? I keep on buying books. Is it the glaucoma? I can sum it up as follows: Sheesh.

  34. Flatus

    Even if you don’t want to use the VA for your health care, you may wish to register  your health issues with them and to have your doc know what they know

    My brother was in Vietnam also and certain of his medical conditions are cared for through the VA because they assume responsibility.  Plus it adds to their information about these issues.

    It covers quite a wide variety of issues from jungle living to agent orange.

    Aside from some odd editorializing this link has some good info on vietnam related health conditions
    https://www.va.gov/oaa/pocketcard/vietnam.asp

  35. I haven’t had a meaningful encounter with the VA since we left St Pete. They put me thru grad school using the disability portion of my bennies; I’m grateful for that. I’m in the process of getting my ID renewed, etc., then I’ll to get reexamined, and hopefully become service connected for the emerging conditions. That would raise me above the 40% that I’m currently at. And, perhaps they will have some good things to say about the state of my health.

  36. My doctor told me I needed to cut back on red meat so last night when I got a piece of bacon out to flavor the green beans I carefully cut out all the red meat parts,

    Bacon fat, the other white meat.

    Jack

  37. Hmmm, cut back on red meat? Jack , I like the way you think.  Ok, no beef… I get that, but what about tuna or salmon?  Hmmm, what about ham .. it’s more pink than red.  The rest of the pig would be ok, right – it’s white for the most part.  I guess chicken would be ok – even the dark parts aren’t red.  Enough silliness – on to the absurd.

    As reported at WaPo, this new Trump/GrahamDontCare bill is meeting red state resistance.

    I’m told that many Medicaid directors from states with Republican governors privately blessed a statement from the National Association of Medicaid Directorsthat sharply criticizes Cassidy-Graham as unworkable and deeply destructive.
    TheNAMD statement argues that Cassidy-Graham, which would end the Medicaid expansion and replace it with block grants to states, starting in 2020, is simply not doable for most of them. The NAMD says that the scope of implementing this change “cannot be overstated,” adding that “the vast majority of states will not be able to do so within the two-year timeframe envisioned here.”
    ***

    It turns out that the people who would be tasked with implementing these radical changes — including many appointed by Republicans — share this view. The question is whether that will weigh on the few remaining undecided GOP senators. It should — if they care in the least about the real-world consequences of their votes.

    I heard this giving the money to the states was supposed to be a good thing.  Guess I heard wrong.

  38. From that same WaPo Plum Line article quoted above:

    The Post reports that the White House push for enormous tax cuts is gaining momentum among Senate Republicans, and you’ll be shocked to learn what’s driving it:

    There is a growing willingness within the GOP to embrace controversial, optimistic estimates of how much economic growth their tax plan would create. Those upbeat estimates, often rejected by nonpartisan economists, would supplant the traditional forecasts offered by official scorekeepers at the Congressional Budget Office and Joint Committee on Taxation, helping lawmakers argue that the plan would not increase the national debt.

    Of course, Republicans have been willing to embrace such “controversial” estimates for decades, so nothing new here.

    The only good news I see in that blog is that Murkowski appears to be leaning against the G/TDC bill.

  39. so far 3 PG appointees are under investigation for misusing air travel  – Tom Price stock manipulator and faux doctor…for sure he never said he would do no harm.

  42. Cool, McCain sez NO.  Hope he doesn’t yield to pressure from teh twit.  (Hah, almost pissed myself on that one).

    (Hah, Flatus – I see you beat me to it.)

  44. Too  bad about McCain, that gives cover to the cowards who don’t want to vote for it but don’t have the courage to say so.  The senate needs a blind vote, where everybody goes in a booth and votes  then the results (who and what)aren’t released until after the vote.  It might give a little accountability back to the people who elected them,

     

    Jack

  45. Hi Whskyjack,

     

    I like your idea of a blind vote & accountability. But if what we have now is what we have now I am thankful for Senator McCain. If he provides cover for others to wiggle out of difficulties, OK. Bunch of bought weenies tend not to be a courageous lot.

    Wondering too if this turn of events was choreographed by McCain & Graham. Senator Graham can campaign on trying to fulfill Republican promises in future Presidential runs (Conservative cred-?) while Senator McCain can be the fall guy for his friend. Probably McCain gives 2 bleeps about idiot Republicans this point in his legacy.

  47. Jack, I hear ya, but look at it this way – by him coming out publicly without the drama of the last vote, it heaps a good bit of ridicule on Graham and Cassidy before their “debate” Monday night with Bernie” and Amy.  It also sheds light on the weakness of SF and McMertle to get their own party behind their plans to hurt the poorest among us.  What could have been a big win for them and a big loss for us citizens has very little hope of passage. Plus it gives other waffling repugs some cover to say no and really kill the damn thing.   I’d bet an up or down vote now would come out at about 45 for and 55 against.  Spun right this could be a huge win for the Dems, thanks in large part to McCain.  One thing it will point out in stark terms if a couple more senators come out and openly oppose it is that SF has almost no political capitol even in his own party.

  48. bw, the world is ending tomorrow???  I just got a new puppy and the gopers haven’t impeached the twit yet! the ending will have to wait.
    and sequels are never as good as the original anyway

  49. I believe McCain probably sees himself as the repug version of Ted Kennedy in his last year – the most significant member of his party and feeling no political or other threat from anyone.  The parallels are painfully close.

  51. I was worried that if he didn’t show up, even tho’ gopers have lost 3 of their own, there still could be shenanigans ..

    new jersey online: Menendez says he’d leave his trial in N.J. to vote against Obamacare repeal in D.C.

    NEWARK — U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez vowed Friday to be in Washington, D.C., to oppose Republicans’ last-ditch effort to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act should it come up for a vote next week — a move that would possibly cause him to miss a day of his federal corruption trial.

    “This bill is still a mean-spirited, right-wing assault on the health and security of American families,” the New Jersey Democrat said at a news conference on the steps of Newark City Hall — a few blocks from the federal courthouse where his trial is being held Monday through Thursday each week.

    “No matter what personal sacrifice I will face,” Menendez added, “when Republicans bring the bill to the Senate floor, I will be there to vote against it.”

     

    Christie has also been out front on the bill badly hurting jersey.

  53. pogo, fitting decision by McCain. probably came to it about same time burns’s episode replayed the young john’s Vietnam interview while writhing in pain on a pow bed last night.

  54. That’s what happened last time  McCain gave cover to his pal carpet collector Lindsey Graham Hr voted and killed it allowing Graham to crawl on all fours to the gooper establishement and do a butt face plant

  55. as long as he votes “no” I don’t care even if he did it because chuck schumer promised him a blow job on cspan. people’s lives are at stake, guys.

  57. Pat

    If it wasn’t him it would have been someone else, Craig is right this is all a political drama play to calm the rubes, so lets not elevate McCain to any level except jester and fool.

    Speaking of Jesters an fools, don’t ya just love Bernie and his political grandstanding. Idiot!

    Jack

  59. oops, my bad.  maybe I was channeling sam since her show aired a quite a few hours before my thread on Kelly.  sorry, sam.

  60. another Republican, Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, tells the real story:

    “If we do nothing, I think it has a tremendous impact on the 2018 elections. And whether or not Republicans still maintain control and we have the gavel.” (VOX)

  61. This episode of the Repealpalooza is strictly meant to give cover to those ripper thorns in trump’s many sides, when they slink and slither home to seek re-election. After 2018 maybe one or two repubs will decide they’d run better as Dems. Maybe even Sen munchkin of the Sovereign State of West Virginia will decide to become a Democrat.

  62. The entire world would have been different had SC elected Dr. Alex Sanders instead of Lindsay Graham…….known portion of poop in a bucket.

  63. I look at my state now and then and think….How do these freaks keep getting elected when we have such nice democrats like Fritz Hollings, Mayor Joe Riley, Alex Sanders ( who never got elected so has to settle for having been the president of the College of Charleston, and founder of the Law School of Charleston, or whatever its name is…..)

  64. The state is addicted to freaks. Fred Sanford, Strom Thurmond, Linseed, Gowdy, “You lie!”,

    Freaks. Line em up: freak, freak, freak, freak, freak….all the way back to that Pitchfork guy……..freaks.

    Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum….

  65. Pitchfork Ben Tillman
    Benjamin Tillman
    Benjamin Ryan Tillman (August 11, 1847 – July 3, 1918) was a politician of the Democratic Party who served as Governor of South Carolina from 1890 to 1894, and a United States Senator from 1895 until his death in 1918. A white supremacist who opposed civil rights for blacks, Tillman led a paramilitary group of Red Shirts during South Carolina’s violent 1876 election. On the floor of the U.S. Senate, he frequently ridiculed blacks, and boasted of having helped to kill them during that campaign.

  66. Preston Brooks

    On May 22, 1856, the “world’s greatest deliberative body” became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate’s entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

    The inspiration for this clash came three days earlier when Senator Charles Sumner, a Massachusetts antislavery Republican, addressed the Senate on the explosive issue of whether Kansas should be admitted to the Union as a slave state or a free state. In his “Crime Against Kansas” speech, Sumner identified two Democratic senators as the principal culprits in this crime—Stephen Douglas of Illinois and Andrew Butler of South Carolina. He characterized Douglas to his face as a “noise-some, squat, and nameless animal . . . not a proper model for an American senator.” Andrew Butler, who was not present, received more elaborate treatment. Mocking the South Carolina senator’s stance as a man of chivalry, the Massachusetts senator charged him with taking “a mistress . . . who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight—I mean,” added Sumner, “the harlot, Slavery.”

    Representative Preston Brooks was Butler’s South Carolina kinsman. If he had believed Sumner to be a gentleman, he might have challenged him to a duel. Instead, he chose a light cane of the type used to discipline unruly dogs. Shortly after the Senate had adjourned for the day, Brooks entered the old chamber, where he found Sumner busily attaching his postal frank to copies of his “Crime Against Kansas” speech.

    Moving quickly, Brooks slammed his metal-topped cane onto the unsuspecting Sumner’s head. As Brooks struck again and again, Sumner rose and lurched blindly about the chamber, futilely attempting to protect himself. After a very long minute, it ended.

    Bleeding profusely, Sumner was carried away. Brooks walked calmly out of the chamber without being detained by the stunned onlookers. Overnight, both men became heroes in their respective regions.

    Surviving a House censure resolution, Brooks resigned, was immediately reelected, and soon thereafter died at age 37. Sumner recovered slowly and returned to the Senate, where he remained for another 18 years. The nation, suffering from the breakdown of reasoned discourse that this event symbolized, tumbled onward toward the catastrophe of civil war.

  67. It’s so seldom that actual karma catches up with actual assholes.

    But as it has turned out, Sumner wielded a larger and much more thorough cane.

  72. Gary Hart came across as an arrogant prick on “Sixteen for ’16”, the interesting PBS campaign series from last year. My sister’s roommate at George Washington University was absolutely in love with the man & volunteered to work on his campaign. Yuck.

     

  73. Well, I’m with patd. So long as the bill dies I don’t care who votes no, so long as they have an R behind their name on the crawl.

  74. “So long as the bill dies I don’t care who votes no….”

    pogo, nor why.

    in a sense, that was how I felt about those who voted for the twit or didn’t vote at all and therefore elected him: I don’t care why…. the result is what matters.

  75. the atlantic: What Would a Hydrogen Bomb Do to the Pacific Ocean? 

    […]

    …..If North Korea followed through, the test would be the first detonation of a nuclear weapon in the atmosphere in nearly 40 years. It would lead to—aside from untold geopolitical consequences—severe environmental impacts.

    Hydrogen bombs are far more powerful than atomic bombs, capable of producing many times more explosive energy. If an H-bomb hits the Pacific, it will detonate with a blinding flash and produce the signature mushroom cloud. The initial blast will kill most of the life in the strike zone—scores of fish and other marine life—instantly. When the United States dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima in 1945, the entire population located within a radius of 1,600 feet (500 meters) perished.

    Devastating effects would be felt for miles. The explosion would send radioactive dust and ash flying through the air and into the water. Wind could carry the dangerous particles over hundreds of miles.

    The smoke from the blast site would block out sunlight and hinder life forms at sea that depend on photosynthesis to survive. The exposure to radiation could cause severe health problems for nearby marine life. Radioactivity is known to damage cells in humans, animals, and plants by causing changes in their genes. The changes could lead to crippling mutations in future generations. The eggs and larvae of marine organisms are especially sensitive to radiation, according to experts. Affected animals could pass the exposure up the food chain.

    The test could also have damaging and long-lasting effects on humans and other wildlife if the radioactive fallout reaches land. The particles could contaminate air, soil, and water supply. More than 60 years after the United States tested a series of atomic bombs near Bikini Atoll in the Marshall Islands, the island remains “unlivable,” according to a report from The Guardian in 2014. Residents relocated before the tests returned in the 1970s to find high levels of radiation in foods grown near the nuclear test site and were forced to leave again.

    […continues…]

  76. Patd, my voting dichotomy was Hillary/ not Hillary. In a two party system a vote for anyone else was a vote against Hillary. It remains so.

  77. wasn’t Godzilla borne by bomb?  will this nork hydrogen bomb bring about  Godzilla’s grandchild?

    from comicbook: First Look at Godzilla Design for ‘Godzilla 2’

    We already know that Godzilla 2 will be bringing iconic Godzilla monsters like Rodan, Mothra, and King Ghidorah into this modern franchise – but what about the King of Monsters himself?

    ….Godzilla 2 (tentatively titled Godzilla: King of Monsters) will chronicle the next phase of the movie monster icon’s rebooted franchise, which revolves around the idea of more Kaiju beasts invading our world, in the wak of Godzilla’s battle with the MUTOS in the 2014 film…..Godzilla: King of Monsters will be in theaters on March 22, 2019.

  78. now they tell them…. why the delay?

    wapo: DHS tells states about Russian hacking during 2016 election

    The Department of Homeland Security contacted election officials in 21 states Friday to notify them that they had been targeted by Russian government hackers during the 2016 election campaign.

    Three months ago, DHS officials said that people connected to the Russian government tried to hack voter registration files or public election sites in 21 states, but Friday was the first time that government officials contacted individual state election officials to let them know their systems had been targeted.

    Officials said DHS told officials in all 50 states whether their systems had been attacked or not.

    [….]

    Friday’s notifications were made after state elections officials and some federal lawmakers expressed frustration that Homeland Security had not yet disclosed the extent of the Russian attempts to infiltrate voter registration systems.

    “It’s unacceptable that it took almost a year after the election to notify states that their elections systems were targeted, but I’m relieved that DHS has acted upon our numerous requests and is finally informing the top elections officials in all 21 affected states that Russian hackers tried to breach their systems in the run up to the 2016 election,” said Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    State elections officials in Alabama, Colorado, Connecticut, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Wisconsin and Washington were told Friday they were targeted, according to officials and a tally by the Associated Press.

    […continues….]

  79. from Milwaukee wuwm: Homeland Security Confirms Russian Attempt To Hack Wisconsin Election Systems

    [….]

    DHS told state officials that Russian hackers scanned Wisconsin’s internet-connected election infrastructure, likely seeking specific vulnerabilities such as access to voter registration databases.

    Wisconsin Elections Commission administrator Michael Haas says the attempted hack had no effect on the state’s systems or the outcome of the election.

    Haas added that he is seeking more information from Homeland Security. 

  81. Semper Paratus, coffee fans……Mr. Coffee and his imitators will leave you on the side of the road, coffee wise, eventually.

    Ain’t nobody got time for dat……

  82. Recently was gifted a Keurig knock-off……works great, but man that thing can gobble up some coffee beans.

    And who the hell wants ONE cup of coffee to begin with……( I know it happens, but still…..)

  84. Well PG replaced Obama guidelines on campus sexual assault- now allowing schools to require higher levels of proof before pursuing complaints. Message sent- party on dudes. Dumbass

  85. I thought PG was a big fan of  Mohammed Ali—-why is he picking on Curry and Kaepernick

    I hate PG and the fat ass Suckabee lookalike they have defending the dotard

    Devos probably has a college age son

  86. Sturg, I drink 3-10oz cups a day. I get the most coffee for my money at publix. I keep an eye on their ads, buy the bogo items in the semper paratus fighting taste that I want, then fortify it with their ultra bargain espresso. It’s really good and makes the keurig refillables affordable.

  87. patd…  Bu is adorable!

    Screw the keurig…   I have a trusty 4 cup Mr. Coffee.  Makes 2 mugs…  which I drink every morning.  I’m not into these “ohsoconveniencesthatcostfivetimeswhatyouusedtopay” crappola.

    Of course I have a 10 cup Braun for when we have company.

    oh yeah… since this is mainly a political blog… Trump is an asshole!

  88. We use a french press and a thermos

    What is up with Melanoma’s style – she wears the militarized look like the wife of a soviet bloc tyrant

  89. Wisconsin  didn’t need the help of the Russians – they had the cheesehead goopers do the cheating.

  90. KCG, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. Her step kids ignore her and her son; what better reference can you ask for?

  91. renee, Bu demurely thanks you.

    princess Billie Bob, the infamous bitch with balls above in her youthful prime, barks her disapproval every chance she gets.   am curious as to how the rivalry turns out and if Bu out grows expectations of being just a bit bigger than a beagle.  Billie Bob eventually turned out to look exactly like a smaller version of Duke the golden retriever in Bush’s beans ads….and just as wily.

  92. Wonder where in the world BB is. Someone with her commitment to service, coupled with common sense, should be in charge of the response to our smaller island territories.

  93. business insider: JAMES CLAPPER: US intelligence assessment of Russia’s election interference ‘cast doubt on the legitimacy’ of Trump’s victory

    ….

    “Our intelligence community assessment did serve to cast doubt on the legitimacy of his victory in the election,” Clapper said of Trump in a CNN interview Friday evening.

    “I think that, above all else, is what concerned him, and I think that transcends, unfortunately, the real concern here, which is Russian interference in our political process which, by the way, is going to continue,” Clapper said.

    It was the most direct assertion about the effects Russian operatives had in the US election — the investigation of which has evolved exponentially in the last four months under special counsel Robert Mueller, who is overseeing the Russia probe on behalf of the US Justice Department.

    […continues…..]

  94. flatus, wondered the same thing myself.  perhaps bbronc has been ordered to stand by locally as hurricane maria at level 3 may affect cape hatteras area.

  95. the atlantic: What Would a Hydrogen Bomb Do to the Pacific Ocean? 

    1. The Atlantic wonders about its big brother, the Pacific. Ugly sibling rivalry erupts into the public forum.

    2. Of course, if there’s to be an HBum in the Pacific, you can bet that there’ll be several more on the Western Pacific Rim, ie, no Korea.

  96. The worst disasters to ever hit Americans and our president is in a pissing contest on Twitter.  With basketball players.

    —Colorado Bob

  99. Stupid phuck. Thinks he can tell Roger Goodell what he has to tell players about exercising free speech. Screw him. Asswipe.

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