Andy Hardy, eat your heart out

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By PatD, a Trail Mix Contributor

What we have here is a deadly serious 21st century (not Fox) version of the old movie plot where spunky high schoolers put on a show to save their town except here those spunky high schoolers are putting on a march and putting up a fight to save their nation.

Babes in arms they’re not.

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  4. PatD – good analogy.  The students are causing all sorts of issues for the republicans.  The greedy old perverts fail to understand that for every young person they diss, including those who can vote this year, their friends will join to vote those guys out of office.

    Whatever bug is going around that is not the flu, it is nasty.  Down hard today.

  6. These kids won’t lose steam, will gain more supporters the more NRA-owned State & Fed critters drag their feet or turn their backs on kids who survived another school shooting.

  8. BlueB… hope you feel better soon.

    I LOVE seeing the kids letting their voices be heard…   go, go, GO!  fight for your future!

    Pogo…  that was some of the best Olympics stuff last night.  Women rock!  Hey… fuck anyone who thinks any Olympic athlete owes loyalty to any president over the American people!

  9. And, for the Second Amendment argument that folks think they need assault weapons to protect themselves from our own govt, look at the Russian-backed Syrian govt killing its people with airstrikes.  Ya gonna get a plane & bombs, too?  No.

    The Parkland kids are getting trolled by Russian bots & Trump supporters.  Those kids understand social media in a way Trump supporters do not.  They are smarter, they are passionate, heck, they are Time magazine’s “person of the year.”

    Occupy started it, For Our Lives is the next generation to carry on.

  12. speaking of the rev graham… not lil billy who like lil donnie is not even a shadow of their famous and infamous dad,

    back in 2009, jimmy carter writing on women’s equality noted:

    I know, too, that Billy Graham, one of the most widely respected and revered Christians during my lifetime, did not understand why women were prevented from being priests and preachers. He said: “Women preach all over the world. It doesn’t bother me from my study of the scriptures.”

  13. not just women’s rights, elder billy also a trailblazer in racial equality according to this excerpt from “Howard O. Jones: First African-American Member of Billy Graham’s Team Shares His Story”

    […]
    I didn’t receive death threats, but I was the recipient of plenty of dirty looks. And when news hit the street that Billy was thinking of bringing me on board, he received an alarming number of disparaging letters: “You should not have a Negro on your team,” came the warnings. “You’re going to ruin your ministry by adding minorities. We may have no choice but to end our support.”
     
    For better or worse, the church has typically followed the lead of secular society when it comes to our attitudes about race. Today racial reconciliation has become an evangelical buzzword. When Billy approached me to join him in New York, it was more or less understood that white Christians worshiped with white Christians and black Christians worshiped with black Christians.
     
    Talk about being countercultural; what Billy did was radical. There’s no getting around it. He weathered the barrage of angry letters and criticisms. He resisted the idea of pulling the plug on the whole thing and playing it safe. There was never any hesitation on Billy’s part. He remained faithful to his convictions. He had dug the trench, you might say, and he was going to go through. He knew it was what God was calling him to do.
    […continues…]

  14. “How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” – Anne Frank

    It’s not “too soon” for the decision to be made on gun control & mental health funding.  The kids of Parkland know it & the adults will know it, whether or not they like it.

    I have to wonder about DC Repugz who were shot/shot at on a softball field last year.  How can they not see these issues need to be fixed?  I guess their bank accounts are more important to them.

  22. I think it’s bigger than anyone in office realizes.  This is about finally being heard AND getting action.  No more doing nothing.  No more stalling.  No more finger pointing.   It’s time for critterz to poop or get off the pot.

  24. “Would we be interested in Trail Mix sponsoring a student for the march?”

    hell yes, boss. count me in. hoping process can be set up for easy donation.
    let’s call it something like the trail mix maverick fellowship based on usual definition:

    maverick
     
    1. an unorthodox or independent-minded person 2. an unbranded calf or yearling.

    or maybe the trail mix “unbridled spirits” scholarship

  26. The pols couldn’t make a slot in the schedule to see the kids. Begging for support from the nra takes too much time.

  27. the hill via msn:
    Hundreds of students walked out of class Wednesday and are marching toward the U.S. Capitol to demand action on gun control.
    Students at Montgomery Blair high school in Maryland planned a walkout through social media, according to a reporter from ABC 7.
    According to Fox 5, students at Richard Montgomery and Bethesda-Chevy Chase high schools are also taking part in a walkout.
    The students will finish the rally at the Capitol.

    […]
    Students also planned a march later this year in Washington, D.C. to protest gun violence.
    Several other school walkouts are taking place across the country and a nationwide walkout is been organized for later this year.
     

     

  28. Playing golf with SFB no doubt.  This listening session tonight should be interesting –  supposedly the press will be there.  I can’t imagine that they have invited anyone who isn’t going to call SFB our supreme leader

  29. Maybe, like herbert hoover, trump will have some ambition-crazed general lead troops to slaughter the marchers. These kids have the courage of historical ignorance.

    Even if we can’t be there to assist them, we can still pray that they will go and return home safely.

  31. I had a great time in high school.  It was fun.  I can’t imagine what it would be like to go through that experience.   Listening to the students describe their experience is terrifying enough.   You can see how they would be both terrified and angry.   I was into having fun, pretending to care about grades thinking about which college – not having an active shooter drill.

    It’s good to see that a fla state senator has offered her good offices to arrange appointments and let them sleep on her floor.

  32. Will Parkland students be able to carry firearms when they meet with trump, or will the repubs take away the kid’s 2d Amendment rights ?

  33. according to tally newspaper the protestors’ goal:

    In the works is a six-point plan to restrict access to firearms for those with mental illness, a three-day waiting period for rifle purchases, a minimum age of 21 for rifle purchases, expanded background checks, and money for school safety.

     

    minimum age of 21?  some will argue that the 2nd amendment kicks in at 18  and that 21 conflicts with military service –

    Under 10 U.S.C., 505: The minimum age for enlistment into the US military is 17.5 years with parental consent, 18 years without.

  35. I was never a big fan of Billy Graham, including before I understood who I was. He was 100% anti-gay.

    Things you see in America’s agriculture lands; sign in front of a restaurant “Angus Sirloin Steak Covered In Shrimp Scampi”.   An interesting variation of surf and turf.

  36. Even doing active shooter drills.  It’s horrible.  We did have bomb drills when I was in elementary school (get under your desk), in addition to fire & tornado drills, but I can’t imagine what it’s like for kids to go through shooter drills when these things keep happening are in the news.  You shouldn’t have to be brave to go to school.

    Not buying that Cuban was oblivious to everything going on in the Mavs organization.  He’s smarter than that.  A lot of relief from us that knew the HR guy who is now history, as it would’ve been a case of the fox guarding the henhouse if he was supposed to keep proper.

     

  40. Onliest thing I could tolerate about billy graham was George Beverly Shea growling that “great thou art” song, and that could wear mighty thin itself.   And that kid of his is a creep.

  41. The kids want to undo H.J. Res. 40, which republicans and trump were (are?) so proud of.

    trump will claim that he’s working on the solution, but he’ll just be playing for time.

  42. Billie Graham  he wouldn’t let is own daughter preach – a move continued by her idiot brother

  43. graham was a friend of nixon. I could stop there.

    graham’s missionary work was a big and lucrative business. he claimed that he had a calling, but treated that calling as his own private property, not his god’s. Finally, he passed his calling business on to his irreligious, hateful, and incendiary son. Good riddance to an insufferable phony and toady to the rich, powerful, and corrupt.

  46. okay, time for a break.  how’s this for spooky?

    from the guardian:

    Boston Dynamics is teaching its robot dog to fight back against humans
    ‘Testing robustness’ apparently crucial to SpotMini’s development, with machine showing it won’t be perturbed by human interference
    It appears that, just like their flesh and blood counterparts, you just can’t put a good robot dog down, even if you’re a human fighting it for control of a door.
    Boston Dynamics’ well-mannered four-legged machine SpotMini has already proved that it can easily open a door and walk through unchallenged, but now the former Google turned SoftBank robotics firm is teaching its robo-canines to fight back.
    [….]
    Boston Dynamics describes the video as “a test of SpotMini’s ability to adjust to disturbances as it opens and walks through a door” because “the ability to tolerate and respond to disturbances like these improves successful operation of the robot”. The firm helpfully notes that, despite a back piece flying off, “this testing does not irritate or harm the robot”.
     
    But teaching robots to fight back against humans may might end up harming us.

  47. It’s not what Jesus was at all after, according to the red words, but people who use Jesus use him to make people lose their own minds.

    Pitiful.

  49. Up a little bit to see how today’s student protests are going. They appear to be doing quite well and having the reaction I expected of the greedy old perverts – disdain and ridicule.  This year is getting exciting.  As much a downer as last year was, these coming months are getting me excited to twist the tail of the orange jackass going.  It looks like about the only demographic group not getting it are the white men of the greedy old pervert club, and possibly a few of the Bernie for 2020 crowd.

    Something else is that SFB is not getting his front page attention from outrageous tweets.  His weekend tweet storm was looked at as the output of a crazed and cornered criminal.  I hope he likes Florence, the weather is usually dry.

  50. I don’t think we are showing our best side by attacking this 99-yo man on the day of his death. He is not of my religion nor I of his. But having heard more preachers staking claim to his turf while in our car traveling ‘cross-country, I recognize that we have lost a simple man who never went to seminary, never was a scholar, preferred being call Mr Graham rather than some pretentious title, and was a sought out advisor to presidents.

  52. To quote Bette Davis

     According to the LA Times, when Davis received word of Crawford’s heart attack and subsequent death in 1977, she allegedly said, “You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.”

    why would I want to elevate the memory of a man who did nothing but enrich himself at my expense

  55. Flatus,

    Airies must really have a lotta fun.

    Eglin Bayview, Eglin Aero Club, Eglin Beach Club, Eglin Yacht Club, Eglin Officers Club, Eglin Serviceman’s Club ?

  58. the Trump listening session – let’s make the schools fortresses and arm teachers – hand picked by the goopers
    Trump — let’s hire fortune tellers who will tell us who is going to do school shooting

  59. XR, this is it:
    Federal Prison Camp Houses White-Collar Criminals : Powerful Among ‘Guests’ at ‘Club Fed‘
    After it closed, the population moved to Pensacola.

  61. crackers – He was hitting his girlfriend, hurting/killing animals, threatening kids  online & getting into fights.   He was over the edge long ago.

  62. Even a young guy they interviewed at the DC protest today said his Second Amendment rights were not negotiable.

    What about the right to life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness?

  63. So, the manufacturers need to be hit in their wallets.  They have to pay for every funeral, every hospital bill, every mortgage when the mortgage-holder is killed.  They have to pay for all of the grief counseling.  They have to pay, pay, pay.

    Could the victims families file a class action suit?  Would that apply?   It certainly wouldn’t be frivolous.

  65. bid

    all those incidents you mention were investigated and he was not considered a threat either to himself or others.   His mother died in the fall. some of the charges are not confirmed

  66. Agreed that he lost the only person keeping him from going “over the edge.”

    But, he was a threat to the girl he hit, to the kids he threatened, to the animals he hurt.

    The problem is that the “edge” is too far out.  He had to actually murder humans for it to be considered over the edge?

    That’s another part of the problem.

  67. He stalked and threatened the girlfriend and was expelled for fighting with her new boyfriend but he never hit her.   There is plenty of evidence that he was a kid in big trouble but no evidence of criminal acts.

    I have no idea what should have been done once he was sent to another school –was he in some kind of mandatory counseling program?

    It seems everyone knew this was a kid with a problem for a long time but no one knew what to do or their options were limited or non-existent

  71. Except for a little of the opening pleasantries, I listened to the rest of the WH talk-around. I was expecting major negative vibes on both sides–IMO they didn’t materialize. I hope things begin to gel rather than foment.

  72. He had to have “I hear you,” written down for him? Jeez.

    Notice he has 45 embroidered on his shirt cuff, too.

     

  79. My biggest complaint about Billy Graham is Franklin Graham. Oh, and his shows used to preempt otherwise pleasurable tv evenings. Other than that I never paid any attention to him.

  80. marco rubio lied about opposing guns for maniacs. The creep voted for H.J. Res. 40, which when trump signed it into law, made it legal to sell or give firearms or ammo to maniacs.

  81. “So, the manufacturers need to be hit in their wallets.  They have to pay for every funeral, every hospital bill, every mortgage when the mortgage-holder is killed.  They have to pay for all of the grief counseling.  They have to pay, pay, pay.”

    BiD, I agree with the sentiment, but you may want to read this from wiki:
    The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a United States law which protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. However, both manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible in much the same manner that any U.S. based manufacturer of consumer products is held responsible. They may also be held liable for negligent entrustment when they have reason to know a gun is intended for use in a crime.
     
    The PLCAA is codified at 15 U.S.C. §§ 7901-7903.
    [….]
    A similar measure had been rejected by the Senate on March 2, 2004, after it had been combined with an extension to the assault weapons ban into a single piece of legislation.
     
    The act was passed by the U.S. Senate on July 29, 2005, by a vote of 65–31. On October 20, 2005, it was passed by the House of Representatives with 283 in favor and 144 opposed.
     
    The final bill passed only after adding an amendment that mandated safety locks on handguns, and after preventing the renewal of the assault weapons ban from being added.
     
    It was signed into law on October 26, 2005, by President George W. Bush and became Public Law 109-92. Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association thanked President Bush for signing the Act, for which it had lobbied, describing it as “… the most significant piece of pro-gun legislation in twenty years into law”
     

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