See Something Say Something 2025

Signs put up by the Department of Interior need repair if not removal. Jeff Darcy,. cleveland.com

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Author: patd

“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad." "How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.” ― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

64 thoughts on “See Something Say Something 2025”

  1. accompanying his ‘toon, here’s Jeff Darcy’s op ed
    https://www.cleveland.com/darcy/2025/06/national-parks-snitch-signs-darcy-cartoon.html

    CLEVELAND, Ohio — The sign in the cartoon topping this post is the actual sign now appearing in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park and National Parks across the nation.
    Parts of the sign read like they could have been written by Sen. Joe McCarthy. Ironically, they also recall Fidel Castro’s takeover of Cuba when the Castro regime had informants reporting on their neighbors and co-workers.
    Seed for the new signage is President Trump’s Executive Order on “Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History.”
    New Secretary of the Interior is Doug Burgum, the former Governor of North Dakota and Republican Presidential candidate. Burgum had been president of a software company Microsoft bought in 2001 for $1.1 billion.
    First State Park was California’s Yosemite in 1864 certified by President Lincoln.
    President Ulysses S. Grant established the first National Park Yellowstone in1872. President Theodore Roosevelt went on to greatly expand the National Park System, including, among others, the Grand Canyon.
    Imagine the feedback from Presidents Lincoln, Grant and Teddy Roosevelt on the new feedback signs?
    As President Trump signed his Executive Order to “Restore Truth and Sanity to American History” he was also calling to restore Confederate monuments and military fort names such as General Robert E. Lee.
    Even before Trump won reelection, Trumpists had been envisioning his likeness added to Mt. Rushmore alongside George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt and Lincoln.
    In Trump’s second term, under Interior Sec. Burgum, should we now expect to see added to Mt. Rushmore, Trump, General Robert E. Lee and Confederate President Jefferson Davis?

  2. in the same vein there were rumors of other snitch on your-neighbor efforts like the one reported earlier this year.
    https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/29/illegal-immigration-raids-florida-us-ice/78016862007/
    Is ICE offering a $750 reward for turning in suspected immigrants?
    No. The agency posted a denial of this rumor to its X page. Some suspects wanted for crimes by local, state or federal law enforcement who are also illegal immigrants may have rewards attached to information leading to their arrest but there are currently no financial incentives for turning-in suspected immigrants to ICE.

  3. in other news

    Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani won a stunning victory in New York City’s mayoral primary, beating disgraced former governor Andrew Cuomo. Elsewhere, corporations are shamefully backing away from their supposed commitments to supporting the LGBTQ+ community.

  4. while we’re at it on the turning in our immigrant neighbors subject

    At today’s House Judiciary Committee hearing, Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) called out First Lady Melania Trump’s use of an “Einstein Visa” to come to the U.S.

  5. I don’t understand what they’re trying to control at national parks with these signs.
    Is this some sort of dog whistle to crazy people? I don’t see how many people could even understand what this means: The sign says park visitors should identify “any signs or other information that are negative about either past or living Americans or that fail to emphasize the beauty, grandeur, and abundance of landscapes and other natural features.”

  6. Government Executive got the feed of actual responses from park visitors, and none complained about what this sign targets — instead most complained about the sign itself: ” in the nearly 200 submissions NPS received in the first days since the solicitations were posted, visitors implored the administration not to erase U.S. history and praised agency staff for improving their experiences. ”
    https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/06/censorship-see-national-park-visitor-responses-after-trump-requested-help-deleting-negative-signage/406176/

  7. I was sitting here contemplating what a pain it is to use a tablet or phone to play on the intertubes when the thought of what if floated by. What if Iran had posted how the bombing had destroyed or severely damaged the entire program? What if they made up damages? What if they made up stuff just to play to sfb vanity and foibles?

  8. They say history is written by the victors. But now it’s being edited by whoever complained the loudest at the visitor center.

    Ready for your comments and likes at:

  9. PatD, as you so often do that was a nice catch this morning. Censoring National Parks is just the sort of head-scratching stuff that gets lost in the shuffle of this frontal assault on Democracy.

  10. Here now, as a son of the South let me say that the person who is responsible for the greatest number of American deaths in war is the head of the military of the insurrectionists in 1864. That would be Rebert E. Lee. He was a great general, brilliant, in fact, and his brilliance as a military leader killed 50% more Americans than died in any other war in the nation’s history. If you exclude Confederate soldiers from the count, Lee is responsible for killing 365,000 members of the US Army, Navy, … 40,00 fewer that the 405,000 killed in WWII. Pretty impressive for a civil war dontchathink? It’s fitting that Dumbass wants to restore him to a position of prominence and reverence. I can only gather that Dumbass reveres folks who love this country enough to fight it.

  11. So while I was getting out the door this morning I caught a bit of the Caine/Hegseth presser about Fordo, etc. Some of the most blatant wall papering over “We don’t know what damage it did” I”ve ever heard. And Hegseth is a lying piece of shit.

  12. They’ll use this logic to engage in revisionism at places like Underground Railroad sites and such

    They’ll place that admonition broadly even where not applicable in a disingenuous attempt to undermine criticism of the practice

    The power holders can’t have anyone questioning the power structure that enables their exploitation of the system

  13. Man goes to doctor who tells him “It looks like you’re going to die.”

    Man says, “Wow, that’s pretty cold blooded, isn’t there something I can do?”

    Doc says, “Well, you can take a mudbath several times a day.”

    Man says, “And that will help?”

    Doc says, “ No, but it’ll get you used to the dirt.”

    (Willie Nelson joke)

  14. Here’s the truth:

    Right now, the National Park System is being dismantled before our eyes — ranger by ranger and brick by brick.

    This is an unprecedented moment in the long history of national park protection. The staffing crisis, steep budget cuts and seemingly endless attacks are undermining the foundation of our parks, and we need your help to fight back.
    We are at an inflection point in the history of national parks.

    Park staffing is being cut drastically. The administration is recklessly allowing industrial mining in Mojave National Preserve, disregarding National Park Service jurisdiction. And the administration’s FY26 budget calls for over $1 billion in cuts to the Park Service, which if enacted, could close over 350 parks.

    Fortunately, our nationwide community is fighting back. Together we are rallying for our national parks — speaking up online and calling on members of Congress to defend the parks we love.

    Of course, they need money.

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  16. This is the same logic as what was recently applied to the Black History museum.
    Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History
    Key paragraph

    Once widely respected as a symbol of American excellence and a global icon of cultural achievement, the Smithsonian Institution has, in recent years, come under the influence of a divisive, race-centered ideology. This shift has promoted narratives that portray American and Western values as inherently harmful and oppressive

  17. A. My granny used to remark every now and then that “scum always rises to the top.”

    B. “Bronx girls can eat Queens boys for breakfast.”

    Brilliant….remind him that he ain’t nothing but a bug from Queens.

  18. Our recent evening tour at Mt. Rushmore included a flag ceremony that honored veterans, active duty personnel, and Gold Star families. A presentation by uniformed Park personnel that preceded it was barely veiled politics. The message was clear. I truly was braced for boos and heckling. There was none. Although the applause seemed muted, it allowed for the somberness of “retreating the colors” at dusk.

    I hope the Park Ranger did not get a reprimand or worse.

    Unsurprisingly, numerous folk seemed not to understand the phrase “retreating the colors.” Are kids not even joining the Scouts these days?

  19. Reduced staff isn’t the worst of it. Most workers anywhere near retirement are opting for staying home while collecting full pay until September and then seguing into retirement under that Fork in the road offer.

  20. Undergraduate research wins federal recognition from the National Park Service.

    The previously hidden Underground Railroad history of a 200-year-old house in Chestertown, Maryland, has been revealed by students and staff at the Washington College Starr Center for the Study of the American Experience. This spring, the National Park Service formally validated their research by adding the structure — known as the Isaac Mason Escape Site — to its National Underground Railroad Network to Freedom.

    https://www.washcoll.edu/live/news/isaacmason-nps.php?

  21. https://www.nps.gov/places/constitution-hall-john-brown.htm

    PLACE: Constitution Hall John Brown
    Network to Freedom and National Register of Historic Places Topeka, KS

    Just before he was hanged for treason in December 1859, Brown wrote in a letter, “I, John Brown, am now quite certain, that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with blood.” Brown’s hatred of slavery led him and his five sons to Kansas, where Brown made good on his belief that the sins of slavery could only be washed away with blood. On May 21, 1856, a band of proslavery men under the command of Sheriff Samuel Jones raided the town of Lawrence, burning the Free State Hotel, destroying the printing presses, and ransacking homes and stores. Three days later, Brown and his sons retaliated by leading an attack at Pottawatomie Creek, where they dragged five proslavery men from their homes and hacked them to death with broadswords. The sacking of Lawrence and the Pottawatomie Killings ignited warfare throughout eastern Kansas. In June, Brown engaged in the Battle of Blackjack, and at the end of August, joined in the fighting at Osawatomie, in which one of his sons was killed. Brown left Kansas for the last time in early 1859 while leading 11 slaves taken in raids in Missouri to freedom in Canada.

    On October 16, Brown led 21 men in an attack on the United States arsenal at Harper’s Ferry, Virginia, hoping to gather weapons to arm slaves for an insurrection. Armed citizens and federal troops under the command of Colonel Robert E. Lee, however, soon arrived. When the fighting ended, ten of Brown’s followers, including two of his sons, lay dead. Brown was tried and convicted of treason. On December 2, 1859, he was taken to a place of execution and hanged. Condemned as a madman or hailed as a martyr, Brown helped plunge Kansas into violence, and forcibly divided a nation over the issue of slavery, bringing it to the brink of civil war.

    *So, does this get to still exist because John Brown met his end? Is the mention of slavery going to get it excommunicated? Are they going to tear down every roadside, historical marker?

  22. rich people like to take the whole summer off, so this is a great opportunity for community organizing

    their eye is off the ball until Labor Day

  23. the book “Good Lord Bird” by James McBride was a great read!
    highly recommend it…

  24. since the left doesn’t have the right messengers, it needs to focus on the message

    So community organizing and outreach going forward (in my estimation) should seem functionally apolitical, for two reasons: it brings more people to the philosophy and nazis target perceived enemies first, so don’t get perceived 😉

    there are things they will always ignore, like a book club

    an intellectual underground railroad if you will

    if you’ve been heeding my warnings, you should almost be finished constructing your priest-hole 😊

  25. Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R., Ala..) is among Republicans who have sharply criticized the work of Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough

    On Thursday, some Republicans called for the firing of Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough after she effectively blocked a number of GOP proposals central to their fast-track budget legislation, hampering party leaders’ ability to quickly pass President Trump’s sprawling domestic-policy bill.

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/senate-parliamentarian-elizabeth-macdonough-b0433cda

  26. the book “Good Lord Bird” by James McBride was a great read!
    highly recommend it…

    Renee, I love everything he writes.

  27. Holy cow, Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez are evidence that all the money in the world can’t buy taste 😬

  28. thanks anon. I’m so tired of having to explain the obvious. But here we are. Why does defending history feel like shouting into a leaf blower?

  29. @realDonald Trump
    The Democrats are the ones who leaked the information on the PERFECT FLIGHT to the Nuclear Sites in Iran. They should be prosecuted!

    *Well, at least he didn’t specifically blame Biden & Obama. OK, I did it. I’m the leaker. I am Spartacus.

  30. I thought the leaker was some guy who X’d in real time that 9 bombers flew over his backyard, headed east.

    (On 9/11 I heard Air Force One and escorts flying over my deck when all others were still grounded. It was a crazy loud racket.)

  31. Bill Moyers, who served as chief White House spokesman for President Lyndon B. Johnson and then, for more than 40 years, as a broadcast journalist known for bringing ideas — both timely and timeless — to television, died June 26 at a hospital in Manhattan. He was 91.
    The cause was complications from prostate cancer, said his son William Cope Moyers.
    Long before he became a grandee of public television, the Texas-raised Mr. Moyers was a top aide and, by many accounts, a surrogate son to Johnson. The powerful Texas Democrat had given Mr. Moyers a summer job in his U.S. Senate office in 1954 when Mr. Moyers was in college… After Kennedy was assassinated in 1963, Mr. Moyers, not yet 30, became one of President Lyndon B. Johnson’s lieutenants. Time magazine called him “LBJ’s young man in charge of everything.” He was named White House press secretary in July 1965.

    💔

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2025/06/26/bill-moyers-lbj-pbs-broadcasting-dead/

  32. Ah, a bluebird just came to say hello

    i’m pondering whether low-tech is the way to confront high-tech

    You can’t data-mine a scrap of paper

  33. you could print a high-quality image of van Gogh’s “starry night”, but you can’t replicate his brushstrokes and even if you could, they wouldn’t be “his” brushstrokes

    if you dig

    ok ✌️

  34. Sure thing. And Hitler brought us the Volkswagen, so it’s a wash.

    But I am saying that people like Netanyahu and Donald Trump, who I generally regard as forces for ill in the world, turn out to be, at least on the broader issue of the Iranian threat, forces for good. I am saying that those of us who detest Bibi and Trump should show a little humility and do some rethinking.
    – Brooks, of course

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/opinion/netanyahu-trump-iran.html

  35. From Bill Moyers to KKKaroline Leavitt. Oh, how far our country has fallen.

  36. There were a few other stinkers in between, mostly Republican.

    * In fairness, it must be a hard job. The press’s questions are not generally grounded in intelligence.

  37. Karoline is the embodiment of the administration’s lack of respect for journalism.

  38. KKKaroline makes Huckabee-Sanders seem like Lady Di.

    Kinda miss Sean Spicer hiding from the press in the bushes.

    anon – Planted drought-resistant peas, not that lack of rain has been a problem this year.

  39. low-tech is the way to confront high-tech

    anon, an insightful observation, to be sure.

    Just completed reading the Pulitzer-prize winning James by Percival Everett, a sequel, of sorts, to The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Not to give it away, but much was sacrificed and much was gained for the sake of a pencil stub.

  40. Holy Cow my owl buddy just flew within 3’ of me

    scared the shit out of me, so cool

    …about a 5’ wingspan on it!

    i heard it maybe a half mile away or so the other night and called to it and it flew over to within 50 yards of me to investigate…

    i suppose it might have found something to eat when it did

    OR MAYBE

    it just wanted to say hello 😊

  41. i used to have a hawk friend, but it moved to more abundant aeries, i suppose, to my neighbors down the street, and sometimes he’ll say “I saw MY hawk the other day…”, and i think, “dammit that used to be my friend”

    fickle bird 😒

    i had a space in my heart for a bird of prey, so fingers crossed

  42. no, I am not magical. It is unregulated development destroying natural habitats and pushing these creatures into human communities.

    They gotta live somewhere and I have things to eat

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