Taking a Dive

According to Wiktionary, an idiomatic expression suggesting five meanings of our current situation:

  • To decline rapidly
  • To feign a knockout in order to lose intentionally (boxing)
  • To lose or fail intentionally
  • To pretend to fall so as to deceive an opponent or referee (boxing or football)
  • To fall suddenly and significantly (prices, hopes, fortunes, etc.)

Attribution: The stockmarket took a deep plunge by Bruce Plante, PoliticalCartoons.com

IMHO, meanings 2-4 are the likely and demented intentions of the man in the WH.

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“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad." "How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.” ― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

73 thoughts on “Taking a Dive”

  1. John Oliver Mocks Trump’s Trade War, Tariffs Plan on Last Week Tonight

    […]

    The HBO host then went on to show video of Trump holding up a small chart as his visual aid (which was mocked in the cold open of NBC’s Saturday Night Live over the weekend). Trump noted the small size of the chart, saying he had a bigger one to bring but the wind made it challenging and it “had no chance of standing.”

    Mused Oliver: “That is smart, and it shows they really thought of everything that might go wrong while announcing their plan to shoot the economy in the dick. Although, I will point out, if wind was a problem there, and we checked with experts on this, the White House does have an ‘inside part.’”

    Oliver went on to note that there has been some criticism of the chart and how the administration arrived at some of its data.

    “Unfortunately, that chart is ridiculous for a number of reasons,” he said. “For one thing, it features an estimate of tariffs charged to the USA by other countries that no one could figure out until a financial journalist realized it was just how much we export to that country minus how much we import from them, divided by how much we import, which is just stunningly dumb because those things have nothing to do with tariffs. It it’d be like trying to figure out the square footage of your home by dividing your phone number by your dog’s age, or taking your temperature by measuring your head’s distance to the sun. It’s not gonna get you the answer that you’re looking for.”

    He went on to note that the White House released a “more complicated-looking equation they said they’d used, but people quickly pointed out that one symbol meant exports, one meant imports, and the other two numbers were variables set at 4 and 1/4, so they canceled each other out, meaning it’s the same stupid equation everyone said it was in the first place.”

    But the whole tariffs plan “gets even dumber,” Oliver said, noting that among the countries facing tariffs are the Heard and McDonald Islands, which are remote islands near Antarctica that contain a healthy penguin population but no humans.

    Said Oliver “Oh my God. Imagine going back to 2015 and telling your younger self, ‘President Trump will enter a trade war with a remote island of penguins.’ You’d have a lot of understandable questions like, ‘What are you talking about?’”

    Meanwhile, after Trump announced the tariffs, the stock market took a dive. He played audio of a Restoration Hardware earnings call, in which chairman and CEO Gary Friedman was learning of what was happening to his own company’s stock price in real time.

    “What’s our stock now?” Friedman said during the call. “I mean, I guess, you know, the stock went down, you know, based on some of the numbers we reported, and then it got killed because of, uh, um, oh really? Oh shit. OK.”

    Joked Oliver: “Yeah, that sums it up pretty well. In fact, I’m not sure there’s a better encapsulation of what it feels like to live through this Trump presidency than those five words. ‘Oh really? Oh shit. OK.’”

    [continues]

  2. Overseas stock markets plunge, U.S. futures tumble as tariff turmoil continues

    Overseas financial markets plummeted Monday and U.S. stock futures came under renewed selling pressure after leading indexes crumbled last week amid investor fears over the economic fallout from the Trump administration’s latest tariff salvo.

    […]

    Dow Jones Industrial Average futures had fallen 1,330 points as of 5:13 a.m. EDT, according to Bloomberg, while Nasdaq futures were off 697.25 points and S&P 500 futures had lost 185.50.

    Stock markets around the world sold off last week after President Trump on April 2 announced a minimum 10% tariff on all U.S. imports and “reciprocal” levies on nearly 90 countries. The global tariff took effect on Saturday, while the matching tariffs are set to hit on April 9.

    The scale of the tariffs surprised investors, sending U.S. stocks into their sharpest decline in five years and wiping out trillions in investor wealth. Many economists warn that imposing broad tariffs on goods shipped into the U.S. could drive up inflation, chill spending by consumers and hurt economic growth.

    [continues]


  3. The Kingdom of Covfefe Trump II releases more tariffs and throws the country into a crisis. Do you hear the people singing?

  5. “Trump Will Get His Showy (And Likely Expensive) Military Parade in D.C.,” by the Washington City Paper’s Tom Sherwood: “According to a D.C. source with knowledge of the plan that’s still being developed, Trump has commandeered Saturday, June 14 — the 250th anniversary of the U.S. Army and, as it happens, Trump’s 79th birthday — for his military parade. It would stretch almost four miles from the Pentagon in Arlington to the White House, according to the source, who stressed that local officials are just learning of it.

    https://www.politico.com/playbook

    President Donald Trump for years has lusted after a big military parade over which he could preside—just like he sees leaders do in other mostly authoritative countries.

    During his first term in 2018, Trump wanted a grandiose military parade on the streets of D.C. But Trump angrily and reluctantly canceled his plans after military leaders said it would cost $92 million and after District officials complained that heavy military equipment—tanks and planes included—would tear up the roadways and cost $21 million just for parade public safety. Now, second-term Trump apparently won’t be denied.

  8. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-tariff-buffoonery-elates-russian-tv-propogandists/

    Trump’s Tariff ‘Buffoonery’ Elates Russian TV Propagandists

    While the mood in Moscow has soured, Trump’s ill-conceived decision to impose tariffs on “Liberation Day” Wednesday—Russia excluded—brought joy and delight to state television. During Thursday’s broadcast of The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, pundits marveled at the “buffoonery” of the Trump administration’s decision to disrupt global trade and undermine the American economy.

    “This is the Swan Lake; Trump is playing the Black Swan,” political scientist Dmitry Kulikov said, adding that Trump wants “to break everything” and preside over the destruction. “It looks like the end of the global system is coming, the global system that is about fifty years old.”

    “The price of goods will certainly go up in the United States,” Kulikov predicted. “The old political and economic global system is practically dead.” 
    Host Vladimir Solovyov agreed: “What we’re observing is an event of historic proportions.” 
    Solovyov added that “Trump destroyed the trust” while undermining America’s economy.

    “In reality, a monument should be erected to him,” Solovyov said. “This was a major blow to the system of capitalism.” “After the blow Trump delivered against the global economy and global capitalist economy, I think he deserves at least a Sutulov medal,” he added. 

    “Sutulov medal”—a gag gift—is a well-known Russian expression that describes a worthless award that is given by a master to his servant. Putin’s sway over Trump is a constant theme in the state media, and every move that undermines the West and helps Russia is seen through the lens of the Kremlin’s influence over his decisions.

    “We have to award him something,” Solovyov went on. “A monument of him sitting on a horse or the title of an honorary economist—he has to get something.”
    Addressing Trump, Solovyov said, “To deliver this kind of a blow—well done, old man!”

    While the Russians drag out negotiations and escalate ongoing attacks against Ukraine, prominent state TV propagandists sing dithyrambs to the U.S. leader, anticipating he will abandon Ukraine and permanently stop all aid. Despite the misleading rhetoric from Russian President Vladimir Putin, this is the only kind of a ceasefire Moscow is currently inclined to entertain. State media is replete with warnings that Russian citizens shouldn’t anticipate the war ending anytime soon.

    *How do we get every member of Congress to read this and take it to heart…and then impeach tRUMPsky (whom Russia seems to call tRUMPushka, which seems like a diminutive you call someone smaller and weaker)…and impeach JD, Vought, Hegseth, Johnson, Gabbard, anyone confirmed who has anything to do with Thiel or the Heritage Foundation…OK, then many would have to impeach themselves…but can we get them to listen to this and act in the best interest of the US?

    They have NOT gotten away with it yet, but the clock is ticking.

  9. Sulla showed Julius that one man could subdue the state; Julius showed Octavius how to keep from being assassinated, etc

    its not a switch, its a potentiometer.

  10. Julius changed his tune on the Ides of March. Of course Sulla wasn’t around to see that.

  12. Caesar’s wife must be above suspicion and Caesar must be above stupidity.

    If you’re going to be Caesar, go ahead and spring for the cast iron toga.
    —Bongo Seville

    But actually it’s if you’re going to use your military might to overthrow the state, you must never remove your armor and never leave home without your gladius.

  14. I’ve tried to tell the Cato story over drinks and mixed company. I lose the crowd every time at “disembowelment”

  15. “Billionaire hedge fund manager Bill Ackman urged Donald Trump to call a temporary time out on his reciprocal tariffs over the weekend, while also acknowledging that he may have misjudged the president as he “assumed economic rationality would be paramount.”

    lol

    dude just didn’t wan’t a woman of color for President

  19. yeah Craig is going to have to do “Lazy Man Cooks Man” if this shit keeps up

    nice job ya dumb fucking trumpers

  20. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tim-pool-russia-trump-podcast-b2728868.html

    MAGA influencer Tim Pool now claims there’s ‘no actual proof’ showing he unwittingly took Russian money

    Pro-Trump podcaster Tim Pool is now openly questioning whether he was actually duped by a Russian propaganda operation that paid him hundreds of thousands of dollars to post videos for a front company, claiming that the Department of Justice has shown “no actual proof” to back its allegations.

    At the time the indictment was unsealed last September, Pool painted himself and the other Tenet creators — such as Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson and Lauren Southern — as victims who had been deceived by a nefarious plot. “Putin is a scumbag, Russia sucks donkey b*lls,” Pool tweeted in response to the allegations.

    Pool would go even further in a video he posted, stating that he would assist federal law enforcement “in whatever way we can,” reiterating that he was victimized by the Kremlin if the allegations were true about Tenet Media.

    Months after the Justice Department released its 32-page charging document that included messages, emails and a fake resume from the Kremlin media actors, Pool now suggests that the evidence showing that he’d unwittingly received $100,000 per week from a Russian influence operation is flimsy at best — and perhaps even false.

    ***

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/tim-pool-was-paid-by-russia-but-will-joins-white-house-press-pool/

    Influencer Paid by Russia Added to White House Press Pool

  21. Ran errands for my 84-year old Dad. (The only other Harris voter in the family.) I told him we’d need to
    renew his ID, as his license is about to expire.

    He said, “Let’s let it expire and see if they deport me. I’ve always wanted to travel.”

  22. Some of the scariest stuff I’ve read today from a newsletter from Chartbook,

    But let us indulge the fin-fi impulse for a moment. What if providing liquidity does not cool the panic? What if investors, both American and foreign decide, that they no longer wish to hitch their wagon to the empire of the mad king? What if they decide that the US is indeed exceptional, but that it is exceptional in rather nasty ways? What if the report in the UK Telegraph is more than mere rumor and Germany’s leaders are seriously considering pulling its remaining gold reserves out of the USA, because of Trump-risk? Well in that case, holding billions in dollars newly created by the Fed does not give you the security you want.

    So you sell the dollars. You just want out of the mad house.

    This, Ladies and Gentlemen, would be the truly big disaster. It would be a sell out not just of US stocks. Not just of US fixed income. But of dollar assets tout court. This would be the long heralded crisis of the dollar.

    Go read the whole article, it will be well worth your time

    Another smart read about the last few days is the blog , The Big Picture, written by investment advisor Barry Ritholtz. His newest post titled “The Consequences of Chaos” is another must read.

    Jack

  24. Trump canceling press conference. Obviously waiting for markets to close. Utter chaos.

  25. I’ve watch -I watched very closely. Why are you here? They really weren’t able to say, but they were there for a reason, perhaps.

    What a load of horse shit. FF didn’t watch anything closely and didn’t ask anyone anything. Well, other than his shank and asked his caddy – there’s no penalty for that out of bounds shot, right?

    Oh, and we should definitely listen to when

    MAGA influencer Tim Pool now claims there’s ‘no actual proof’ showing he unwittingly took Russian money

    Better than even chance he knew it was Russian money and 💯percent chance he didn’t care if it was.

  26. MAGA-code talk? Nah. That was the wordiest of word salads he’s ever tossed out of his festering gob.

    Watched from where? The 9th hole?

  27. It’s unraveling for all of us, but he has trapped himself, too. He’s a self-destructive f&ck. I could see him starting nuclear war to pull attention from Wall Street.

  28. His stupid

    sometimes you have to take medicine to fix things

    or something to that effect coupled with an 11% loss in the Dow in 5 days (3 trading days) and him working on his slice rather than the fucking disaster he’s caused ain’t gonna play well with the press and even his COS isn’t too stupid to see that.

  29. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5236142-congress-tariff-bill-trump/

    7 GOP senators sign on to bill to check Trump’s trade authority

    Seven Republican senators, including Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the Senate’s president pro tempore, and Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.), the former Senate Republican leader, have signed on to a bipartisan bill that would require Congress to approve President Trump’s steep tariffs on trading partners.

    Grassley and McConnell have joined five other Republicans — Sens. Jerry Moran (Kan.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Thom Tillis (N.C.), Todd Young (Ind.) and Susan Collins (Maine) — in supporting the Trade Review Act of 2025.

    ***

    *Too little, too late, but look like you tried so your constituents don’t eat you alive.

    Called Congress, again, today. Left one voicemail. Spoke with one staffer. In addition to the so-called “emergency” that Adolf decided gave him the power to to F over everyone, I told the Musk’s IRS “hackathon” was dangetous and probably criminal.

    ps – Why don’t lawyers just jump ship, instead of carrying swamp water that will probably get them disbarred? Trying to match up 2025 characters with the OG n@zis. Sh/tler is H/tler. Who is AG Bondi?

  30. https://apnews.com/article/stocks-markets-nikkei-tariffs-trump-76d0de278a6cad291ace624a74a6a1b6

     U.S. stocks are falling in a manic Monday after President Donald Trump doubled down on his tariffs, despite seeing how much Wall Street wants him to do the opposite.

    The sudden rise for stocks followed a false rumor that Trump was considering a 90-day pause on his tariffs, one that a White House account on X quickly labeled as “fake news.” Stocks then turned back down.

    That a rumor could move trillions of dollars’ worth of investments shows how much investors are hoping to see signs that Trump may let up on his stiff tariffs, which have started a global trade war.

  31. https://www.newsweek.com/doge-cuts-update-irs-access-2056287

    Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is planning to create a “mega API”—which allows software systems to talk to one another—to access Internal Revenue Service (IRS) data, according to a report from Wired.

    Sam Corcos, a top DOGE operative embedded at the IRS, has discussed plans for DOGE to build a new API, or application programming interface, to make IRS data more easily accessible to cloud platforms, sources told the magazine.

    A source with direct knowledge told Wired that the cloud platform could become the “read center of all IRS systems,” allowing anyone with access to view and possibly manipulate all IRS data in one place.

    The report said that DOGE aims to have it complete within 30 days and is considering asking a third-party cloud and software provider like Palantir to work on it. 
    ***

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies

    Palantir Technologies Inc. is an American publicly traded company that specializes in software platforms[3] for big data analytics.

    Peter Thiel (chairman)

    ***

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/18/jd-vance-world-view-sources-00168984

    The Seven Thinkers and Groups That Have Shaped JD Vance’s Unusual Worldview

    Thiel is best known as Vance’s former venture capital boss and the primary funder of his 2022 Senate campaign, but he is also a close friend and major intellectual influence for Vance. 

    Thiel’s political outlook is complex and contradictory, but it revolves around the idea that misguided liberal ideology, sclerotic government bureaucracy and feckless elites have perverted the trajectory of technological progress, turning technology into a tool of national and civilizational destruction rather than renewal. 

    ***
    *Impeach away! Gotta get rid of a bunch of them, though.

  32. Scary is my maggers eat up every wilted piece of lettuce and moldy carrot in the salad.

    Another widget for when you want to delete an image from a comment.

  34. Elon is saying everyone protesting was paid, too.

    He’s so used to paying for it. Elon, Sometimes it’s done for love.

    I think the thing where Elon leaves after 130 days, is because if he stayed longer he wouldn’t be a “special” employee and other legalities might come into play.

    Ha! Since when does he care if something is legal.

  35. This insane ranting about tariff delusions is exactly what staff hope to avoid by canceling the formal press conference.
    Dow and begun to recover, until he started talking

  36. he is an idiot and everyone around him are idiots and this doesn’t get better until they are all gone

  37. and honestly calling them all idiots is giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are not foreign-antagonist assets which it sure seems like they fucking are

  38. SFB did say any POTUS who had the market drop 1,000 points on his watch should be impeached. What are we waiting for?

  39. https://www.sheknows.com/parenting/articles/1234864309/marjorie-taylor-greene-venmo-son-beer-money/

    Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene Ripped to Shreds After Asking Followers to Venmo Her Son Beer Money

     In a since-deleted (but screenshotted) tweet, the congresswoman from Georgia shared a photo with her son Derek and wrote, “It’s my baby boy’s birthday!! He’s 22!! I love him so much! Buy him a beer!” She then included a link to his Venmo account so followers could send him beer money.

    Greene – who also shares kids Lauren and Taylore with ex Perry Greene – has an estimated net worth of nearly $22 million…

  45. Chief Justice John Roberts Freezes Order Requiring Return Of Alleged MS-13 Gang Member

    Chief Justice John Roberts Freezes Order Requiring Return Of Alleged MS-13 Gang Member
    Abrego Garcia has never been charged with a crime, in any country,” Abrego Garcia’s attorneys wrote in a filing Monday. “He is not wanted by the Government of El Salvador. He sits in a foreign prison solely at the behest of the United States, as the product of a Kafka-esque mistake.”

    U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis, an Obama appointee, ordered the Trump administration on Friday to bring Abrego Garcia back.

    The administration acknowledges he was deported in error but maintains that he is a member of the foreign terrorist organization MS-13 who should not be allowed in the country.

    *When the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court doesn’t believe in due process, you know democracy is on life support.

  46. Ivy – Call your Rep & tell them to impeach. 202-224-3121. You can leave a voicemail if you don’t want to talk to anyone; you’ll get voicemail sometimes during business hours.

    Al Green said he would bring impeachment proceedings within 30 days, but other Reps need to know their constituents are on board.

  47. Thanks, BID. My rep is Joe Neguse.*

    *Joe was heavily involved in the last impeachment.

  52. This “wartime powers” is some bullsh/t, but I wouldn’t put it past SFB to start one.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-iran-direct-talks-over-nuclear-program-trump-says-2025-04-07/

    Trump says US and Iran set for direct nuclear talks; Tehran says they will be indirect
    In a further sign of the difficult path to any deal between the two geopolitical foes, Trump issued a stark warning that if the talks are unsuccessful, “Iran is going to be in great danger.”

    *Well, that sure sounds like a threat coming from Adolf.

  53. The Shocking Far-Right Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI

    The Shocking Far-Right Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the

    FBIThousands of newly obtained documents show that Clearview AI’s founders always intended to target immigrants and the political left. Now their digital dragnet is in the hands of the Trump administration.

    Clearview had compiled a massive biometric database that would eventually contain billions of images the company scraped off the internet and social media without the knowledge of the platforms or their users. Its AI analyzed these images, creating a “faceprint” for every individual. The company let users run a “probe photo” against its database, and if it generated a hit, it displayed the matching images and links to the websites where they originated. This made it easy for Clearview users to further profile their targets with other information found on those webpages: religious or political affiliation, family and friends, romantic partners, sexuality. All without a search warrant or probable cause.

    *Maybe all of the white grandma’s who protested on Saturday, should’ve worn masks.. or better yet, fake noses and glasses.

  55. imagine being kidnapped and disappeared without a warning to some foreign prison and nobody will ever know about it

    That’s what your government is doing

  57. Let’s keep our humanity and defeat these fucking Nazis politically let’s gooooo

  61. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/where-things-stand/johnson-already-doing-trumps-veto-work-for-him-on-senates-bipartisan-tariff-bill

    Johnson Already Doing Trump’s Veto Work For Him On Senate’s Bipartisan Tariff Bill

    House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) came out against even entertaining the idea of bringing to the House floor a Senate bill that would limit the President’s authority to unilaterally impose tariffs.
    The bipartisan legislation was introduced by Sens. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Chuck Grassley (R-IA); seven Republican senators have already signed onto the effort to take back some of Congress’ authority on tariffs from the President. In some ways, the legislation has become a vehicle for Republicans to vocalize their concerns about Trump’s tariffs, which have sent the stock marketing tanking even before the levies kick in on Wednesday.

    Rep. Dan Bacon (R-NE) said he would introduce similar legislation in the House today, in an effort to get Congress to assert its sole authority over tariff policy — which, he said, Congress should not have ceded to the President. (It’s unclear if Bacon is referring to the longtime policy that allows presidents to declare emergencies to which he can respond with tariffs, or recent moves by his chamber. House Republican leadership slipped language into a procedural vote last month when the House was working on passing legislation to avert a shutdown that, essentially, blocks the lower chamber from being able to take a vote on legislation that would end tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China this year. At the time, it was seen as a way to guard against House Republicans having to take a vote on a politically bad, for them, issue.)

    *Folks hate Mike Johnson almost as much as they hate JD Vance. Smarmy, smirking, little putzes.

    How does the House force a vote to get a new Speaker?

  63. thanks to mike gaetz, one vote should start the process of removing speaker, unless they changed the rules

  66. Everyday people worked hard for their money everyday. And he just stole it in one day. Dodo Madoff.

  67. They all need to go away, in addition to Adolf & JD, immediately. Everyone on the Signal chats (plural), everyone who lied to Congress at their confirmation hearing. There’s a lot of overlap.

    Denaturalize & deport Elon. Jail all of the little DOGE monkeys for illegally accessing and sharing data.

    SCOTUS is corrupted. Not sure what the fix is there.

    ICE and the bounty hunters who kidnapped folks (without a signed warrant from a judge, it’s KIDNAPPING), and if they move them across state lines or out of the country, it’s HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

    Lack of due process and SCOTUS doesn’t care. That’s concerning. Why doesn’t Lil Marco want to bring Abrego-Garcia back to the US?

    1) He’s testing the waters to see how far they can go
    2) He’s dead

  68. https://newrepublic.com/post/193705/donald-trump-european-history-eu-tariff-rant

    “The EU has been very tough over the years, I always say it was formed to really do damage to the United States and trade,” Trump said. “That’s the reason it was formed.”

    In case you forgot, the EU was not, in fact, formed to screw the United States but to foster peace and cooperation among European countries post-World War II. It was founded in 1992 and is made up of 27 countries and seven major institutions that manage a common budget, facilitate trade, and make laws.

    The president continued his rewrite of European history, claiming the EU was formed solely “to create a unified force against the United States for trade.” He added that the union has used NATO—an alliance that the United States is a part of—to take advantage of the United States.

    *Trump’s Dementia Symptoms are getting worse.

    BTW, I drove by the tRUMP store in a little town near mine, and there were always cars in front of it. They sold flags, etc., but it was always busy, so maybe it was a MAGAt meeting place. IDK. Today, I drove by a little before 10am and a little before 11am. Zero vehicles in front of it, and the cutout of SFB was gone. There was a state flag in the window.

  70. https://wagingnonviolence.org/2025/04/what-to-do-if-the-insurrection-act-is-invoked/

    With the Insurrection Act looming, now is the time to learn how it might unfold and the strategic ways to respond — including the power of ridicule.

    One of Trump’s presidential actions calls for the Secretary of Defense and Homeland Security to submit a joint report by April 20. The report will offer “any recommendations regarding additional actions that may be necessary to obtain complete operational control of the southern border, including whether to invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807.”

    HAPPY EASTER/HITLER’S BIRTHDAY/4-20!

    The next (and possible last) march is on the 19th.

  71. Stephanie says she ain’t sayin’ it’s a dictatorship but she should because it is.

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