RIO DE JANEIRO — A Brazilian Supreme Court justice on Friday ordered the suspension of X in Latin America’s largest country, a dramatic escalation in a months-long dispute with platform owner Elon Musk over the limits of free speech in an era gripped by polarization and disinformation.
The order by Justice Alexandre de Moraes, which did not immediately take the site down, could affect more than 20 million X users in Brazil and deprive the platform of one of its largest and most active markets. The closely watched dispute has made Brazil — X’s fourth-largest market — a key venue in the global debate between free speech and disinformation, and has become central to Musk’s mission of making X a “free speech public square.”
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line about the mate and cubs abandoning the “impotus americanus” pretty tough image from
The Lincoln Project
@ProjectLincoln
It’s survival of the fittest, and Trump is entirely unfit https://x.com/i/status/1829685543124238419
Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said that professional women “choose a path to misery” when they prioritize careers over having children in a September 2021 podcast interview in which he also claimed men in America were “suppressed” in their masculinity.
The Ohio senator and vice-presidential candidate said of women like his classmates at Yale Law School that “pursuing racial or gender equity is like the value system that gives their life meaning … [but] they all find that that value system leads to misery”.
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Now this latest recording raises renewed questions about Vance’s contribution to the Republican ticket, which is trailing behind Kamala Harris and her bid to be America’s first woman of color president.
In the 2021 interview Vance also claimed men and boys in the US were “suppressed” in their masculinity and made racially charged remarks about American cities and his political opponents.
Of Afghans who assisted US troops during the occupation of that country who were now seeking to come to America, Vance asked whether “certain groups of people can successfully become American citizens”, and said those hostile to Minneapolis’s Somali American community “don’t like people getting hatcheted in the street in [their] own community”.
At the same time, Vance claimed that “the left uses racism as a cudgel”, and that he had been a “little too worried” in the past about such accusations because they can be “career-ending” and “destroy a person’s life”.
Sophie Bjork-James, an assistant professor at Vanderbilt University who has written extensively on topics including US evangelicals and populist politics, said: “Vance represents a new articulation of rightwing politics that is bridging the Christian right and a tech-influenced hypermasculine conservatism.
[…]
On the other hand, Vance depicted men and boys as “suppressed”, saying 52 minutes in that “one of the weird things about elite society is it’s deeply uncomfortable with masculinity”.
Warming to the theme, Vance said: “This is one weird thing that conservatives don’t talk about enough … We don’t talk enough about the fact that traditional masculine traits are now actively suppressed from childhood all the way through adulthood.”
Assessing his young son’s habit of fighting imaginary monsters, Vance said: “There’s something deeply cultural and biological, spiritual about this desire to defend his home and his family.”
He connected this with a hypothetical invasion: “If the Chinese invade us in 10 years, they’re going to be beaten back by boys like you who practice fighting the monsters who become proud men who defend their homes.”
By contrast, for Vance, “They’re not going to be defended by the soy boys who want to feed the monsters.”
“Soy boy” is a term, originating on the “alt-right”, which is used to impugn the masculinity of its targets.
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thus spake trump’s toy boy
if JD’s really lucky, all he’ll get will be the hook and not a rope like the other guy
Image credit: Michael de Adder / Copyright 2024 Cagle Cartoons, Inc.
On our thread topic, it is really remarkable how Trump has surrounded himself exclusively with anti-Ukraine zealots for Putin — Vance, Musk, Gabbard, Vivek for starters. I cannot think of anyone in his inner or even outer circle who full-throatedly supports Ukraine against the Russian invasion. This might not be a decisive issue for a lot of Voters but it should be made clear one of the choices in this election is whether or not we let Putin take Ukraine.
I have seen polling data and clips of focus groups with age 65+ Republicans who are moved by this. The old Reagan Republicans are offended by the parties reversal of its longstanding anti communist stance.
today’s meme… unless we forget…
Rick and I are leaving shortly for the wild north country again. Lots of hot tubbin’ and just looking at mountains while I’m reading a good book.
Pogo… I’ll salute you while driving through Campton…
Craig – are there any characteristics of the magat cohort which can be measured? Age groups, hard core maga, location, and such? I came across some in federal government and military positions, but most just kept quiet to avoid Hatch act or other restrictions. I know there is a general blanket over rural regions. But, suburbia I am not sure of. From my distant cousins who are rural I have an idea that many are racists which is why they are that way. Others were old republicans, since 1968, Dems before that.
BB, It’s the New Republic of Rural Resentment.
Some have migrated to the suburbs.
“Others were old republicans, since 1968, Dems before that.”
BB, those must’ve been what was/were called the dixiecrats who helped nixon with his southern strategy effort.
Hard to believe but the first republicans I ever remember meeting were by and large of the liberal persuasion. That was in pinellas county FL — very progressive, very old old Abe Lincoln style republicans. not many of those left I guess.
my folks were hard core harry truman and woody guthrie type democrats and tim walz’s “mind your own damn business” rule could’ve been their mantra too.
Renee, do it quickly. Campton goes past quickly. Enjoy the north country
Traditions of Resentment have been handed down and spread among them from the Confederacy to Jim Crow to today. That Old Time White Religion plays a big part too.
I have been with them sitting in the pews, crying, when the hymns are sung.
It takes them back and back is where they want to go.
ABBA ask Donald Trump to stop using their songs,
ABBA joins a long list of performers who’ve objected to Trump using their songs, including Celine Dion, Bruce Springsteen, Rihanna, Phil Collins, Pharrell, John Fogerty, Neil Young, Eddy Grant, Panic! at the Disco, R.E.M., Guns N’ Roses, the Village People and the estate of Isacc Hayes.
“White Stripes singer angered after Trump aide shares social media post using clip of band’s hit Seven Nation Army”
Oooh, uh, uh, oooh, oh!
On Instagram White wrote: “Don’t even think about using my music you fascists. Law suit coming from my lawyers about this (to add to your 5 thousand others.) Have a great day at work today Margo Martin.’
Margo is one of tRUMPsky’s lackeys.
kinda tired of the bothsidesist corporate media treating trump as if he is not an existential threat not just to democracy, but human decency, gross negligence at best
it’s not gross negligence though, it’s deliberate sensationalism for profit
BB: “are there any characteristics of the magat cohort which can be measured? Age groups, hard core maga, location, and such?”
Not surprisingly, white, non-college, rural voters are the core of Trump’s MAGA base. But of all the factors education seems to be the key. The education gap between Dem supporters and MAGA followers is huge, right up there with the massive gender gap.
Which is why my biggest disappointment in Biden was when he dropped his proposal for free community college. We’ve got to get these folks better educated so demagogues like Trump can’t fool them.
“Foo Fighters say they did not OK Trump using “My Hero” at Arizona rally, will donate royalties to Harris-Walz campaign”
The resident MAGAt has a Master’s degree, but is surrounded by townsfolk and country neighbors who do not have any advanced education, and most have struggled their entire lives. Had I not moved, I might be one of them. There is visible poverty here, and I’d like to sage the entire county. A lot of self-radicalizing via Fox Noise, too.
manipulative conservative influencers, starting with Rush Limbaugh 30 years ago, have made stupidity a virtue, there’s no fix for proud ignorance except regret
The good news is folks seem at ease with Tim Walz, and maybe he makes some remember who they were.
For a change of pace – I like to watch YouTube videos of people from other countries who visit the U.S. They learn it is nothing like what they imagined from the news or media. They also learn the U.S. is large. Just the lower forty-eight is larger than most countries, or unions of countries, of the world.
Besides being fun at hearing their reactions, I often learn a little bit that I did not know. These United States are large, it takes more than a lifetime to learn all about ourselves. (stepping back to politics – this is why running for president is fraught with making mistakes) I have lived or worked or traveled through all but Oregon, Washington and Alaska. My bucket list is so full of stuff that I do not expect to go there.
“…biggest disappointment in Biden was when he dropped his proposal for free community college. We’ve got to get these folks better educated…”
craig, com college wouldn’t do it. too late by the time they’ve reached puberty and haven’t learned to read, comprehend what they read and developed a desire to keep reading and learning new stuff. I fault the pinch pennies from the school boards to the state legislatures to congress for dumbing down america.
my dad never finished high school but was an avid reader of the daily newspapers, books and what the gov’t was up to. he voted in every election and he knew who and what he was voting for. it was the good basic education (not just the how-to-read part but thoroughly taught civics and american history lessons) he got in the early grades in a one room schoolhouse.
patD – The same with my grandparents. We didn’t have hot, running water until I was 17, but we took two newspapers (but not the pricey, Sunday paper). Between the two of them, they could make or fix just about anything we needed.
With AI, who knows what schools should be teaching. I think they teach basic coding and logic starting in elementary school, but there seems to be a struggle to keep music classes.
Horsey in his op Putin’s secret weapon | The Seattle Times:
speaking of curtains, ‘toons like these could spell curtains for a certain campaign
Attribution: Trump Arlington Cemetery by Christopher Weyant, The Boston Globe, MA
Attribution: Trump pays his disrespect at Arlington by Dave Whamond, Canada, PoliticalCartoons.com
and curtain coming down for elon in latin america
Brazilian judge suspends X in disinformation dispute with Elon Musk – The Washington Post
ms petri’s Opinion | The Harris-Walz CNN interview, summarized – The Washington Post
line about the mate and cubs abandoning the “impotus americanus” pretty tough image from
The Lincoln Project
@ProjectLincoln
It’s survival of the fittest, and Trump is entirely unfit
https://x.com/i/status/1829685543124238419
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‘Dangerous and un-American’: new recording of JD Vance’s dark vision of women and immigration | US elections 2024 | The Guardian
thus spake trump’s toy boy
if JD’s really lucky, all he’ll get will be the hook and not a rope like the other guy
Image credit: Michael de Adder / Copyright 2024 Cagle Cartoons, Inc.
On our thread topic, it is really remarkable how Trump has surrounded himself exclusively with anti-Ukraine zealots for Putin — Vance, Musk, Gabbard, Vivek for starters. I cannot think of anyone in his inner or even outer circle who full-throatedly supports Ukraine against the Russian invasion. This might not be a decisive issue for a lot of Voters but it should be made clear one of the choices in this election is whether or not we let Putin take Ukraine.
I have seen polling data and clips of focus groups with age 65+ Republicans who are moved by this. The old Reagan Republicans are offended by the parties reversal of its longstanding anti communist stance.
today’s meme… unless we forget…
Rick and I are leaving shortly for the wild north country again. Lots of hot tubbin’ and just looking at mountains while I’m reading a good book.
Pogo… I’ll salute you while driving through Campton…
Craig – are there any characteristics of the magat cohort which can be measured? Age groups, hard core maga, location, and such? I came across some in federal government and military positions, but most just kept quiet to avoid Hatch act or other restrictions. I know there is a general blanket over rural regions. But, suburbia I am not sure of. From my distant cousins who are rural I have an idea that many are racists which is why they are that way. Others were old republicans, since 1968, Dems before that.
BB, It’s the New Republic of Rural Resentment.
Some have migrated to the suburbs.
“Others were old republicans, since 1968, Dems before that.”
BB, those must’ve been what was/were called the dixiecrats who helped nixon with his southern strategy effort.
Hard to believe but the first republicans I ever remember meeting were by and large of the liberal persuasion. That was in pinellas county FL — very progressive, very old old Abe Lincoln style republicans. not many of those left I guess.
my folks were hard core harry truman and woody guthrie type democrats and tim walz’s “mind your own damn business” rule could’ve been their mantra too.
Renee, do it quickly. Campton goes past quickly. Enjoy the north country
Traditions of Resentment have been handed down and spread among them from the Confederacy to Jim Crow to today. That Old Time White Religion plays a big part too.
I have been with them sitting in the pews, crying, when the hymns are sung.
It takes them back and back is where they want to go.
ABBA ask Donald Trump to stop using their songs,
ABBA joins a long list of performers who’ve objected to Trump using their songs, including Celine Dion, Bruce Springsteen, Rihanna, Phil Collins, Pharrell, John Fogerty, Neil Young, Eddy Grant, Panic! at the Disco, R.E.M., Guns N’ Roses, the Village People and the estate of Isacc Hayes.
https://apnews.com/article/abba-trump-campaign-1965f788ab05e835b7facc1cddae8ed2?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=share
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/30/jack-white-trump-sue-music
‘Fascists’: Jack White threatens to sue Trump campaign over use of music
“White Stripes singer angered after Trump aide shares social media post using clip of band’s hit Seven Nation Army”
Oooh, uh, uh, oooh, oh!
On Instagram White wrote: “Don’t even think about using my music you fascists. Law suit coming from my lawyers about this (to add to your 5 thousand others.) Have a great day at work today Margo Martin.’
Margo is one of tRUMPsky’s lackeys.
kinda tired of the bothsidesist corporate media treating trump as if he is not an existential threat not just to democracy, but human decency, gross negligence at best
it’s not gross negligence though, it’s deliberate sensationalism for profit
BB: “are there any characteristics of the magat cohort which can be measured? Age groups, hard core maga, location, and such?”
Not surprisingly, white, non-college, rural voters are the core of Trump’s MAGA base. But of all the factors education seems to be the key. The education gap between Dem supporters and MAGA followers is huge, right up there with the massive gender gap.
Which is why my biggest disappointment in Biden was when he dropped his proposal for free community college. We’ve got to get these folks better educated so demagogues like Trump can’t fool them.
you can lead a troll to water…
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/foo-fighters-my-hero-trump-campaign/
“Foo Fighters say they did not OK Trump using “My Hero” at Arizona rally, will donate royalties to Harris-Walz campaign”
The resident MAGAt has a Master’s degree, but is surrounded by townsfolk and country neighbors who do not have any advanced education, and most have struggled their entire lives. Had I not moved, I might be one of them. There is visible poverty here, and I’d like to sage the entire county. A lot of self-radicalizing via Fox Noise, too.
manipulative conservative influencers, starting with Rush Limbaugh 30 years ago, have made stupidity a virtue, there’s no fix for proud ignorance except regret
The good news is folks seem at ease with Tim Walz, and maybe he makes some remember who they were.
For a change of pace – I like to watch YouTube videos of people from other countries who visit the U.S. They learn it is nothing like what they imagined from the news or media. They also learn the U.S. is large. Just the lower forty-eight is larger than most countries, or unions of countries, of the world.
Besides being fun at hearing their reactions, I often learn a little bit that I did not know. These United States are large, it takes more than a lifetime to learn all about ourselves. (stepping back to politics – this is why running for president is fraught with making mistakes) I have lived or worked or traveled through all but Oregon, Washington and Alaska. My bucket list is so full of stuff that I do not expect to go there.
“…biggest disappointment in Biden was when he dropped his proposal for free community college. We’ve got to get these folks better educated…”
craig, com college wouldn’t do it. too late by the time they’ve reached puberty and haven’t learned to read, comprehend what they read and developed a desire to keep reading and learning new stuff. I fault the pinch pennies from the school boards to the state legislatures to congress for dumbing down america.
my dad never finished high school but was an avid reader of the daily newspapers, books and what the gov’t was up to. he voted in every election and he knew who and what he was voting for. it was the good basic education (not just the how-to-read part but thoroughly taught civics and american history lessons) he got in the early grades in a one room schoolhouse.
patD – The same with my grandparents. We didn’t have hot, running water until I was 17, but we took two newspapers (but not the pricey, Sunday paper). Between the two of them, they could make or fix just about anything we needed.
With AI, who knows what schools should be teaching. I think they teach basic coding and logic starting in elementary school, but there seems to be a struggle to keep music classes.
why not
take me to the bridge
king dippy ads on YouTube 🤮
https://youtu.be/dguz0IsCuKU
nothing kills the vibe like a king dippy ad
hm foiled again, i tried 😭 ✌️
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