What next? Back to the Whigs?
A party shrinking itself to racist white grievance defying democracy to maintain power has no future. Ignorant backlash is never a long term winning strategy. That’s what makes America great.
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but we’ll always have
nawlins version of fate hands lemons make lemonade adage: Yardi Gras
fate hands you pandemic make pandemonium
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and here for last night’s story at CBS news:
laissez les bons moments rouler!
back to the thread topic
gallup:
Cartoon bad, both sidesism no good, and false.
…cartoon copyright 2010, not that it was true, then
…also, not sure how reasonable people meet in the middle with people like Adam Kinzinger’s cousins.
i appreciate Kinzinger👍🇺🇸
You meet those people in the middle by telling them “GOOD-BYE” and tearing them out of your contacts.
Life’s too short for dancing with nasty people.
Actually, you don’t tell them a damn thing, you just disappear from their ken.
2021 Jan 4-15
Unfortunately since we have the Electoral College, third parties really foul things up. You need direct popular vote or a complete switch to Parliamentary to have them make sense.
Yep, Jamie. I’ve always wondered how we would handle switching to a popular vote if no one wins a majority. Bill Clinton was a plurality winner, but handily won Electoral College, so no problem. Would we say the top vote-getter wins? If there were 4 or 5 candidates with significant vote, we could end up with a president elected by 1/3 or less of the voters. That’d be weird. I guess the only solution would be a runoff, meaning two national elections, also weird. Or toss it to Congress to pick, even more weird. I dunno. Abolishing the Electoral College is more complicated than some think.
spineless GQP…
from axios:
abcnews:
note this important phrase from the above:
“benefit of not having to prove criminal allegations beyond a reasonable doubt”
BOOYAH! whoopee!
if nothing else, it’s gonna cost the defendants a lotta time and money. just think of the depositions and the resulting perjury cases.
I’m not all that hopeful about the NAACP lawsuit. I think it may fall on a Motion to Dismiss for lack of standing, although the inclusion of Bennie Thompson may save it, but I’m really not familiar enough with the KKK Act to opine on the merits. But I say go for it. Anything that has the potential of fucking with Dumbass, Giuliani and the A-holes who did Dubass’ bidding on January 6 is all right by me. One caveat – in federal court if a suit is found to lack merit federal judges are not all that reluctant to require the party bringing the suit to pay the defendants’ legal fees incurred as a result of the suit.
And I don’t see anything at all surprising in the AEI survey results. Stupidity runs deep in the RW world these days.
We should go to a voting system of ranking candidates, and, have a direct election. Time to ditch the EC.
“…or whatever.” There’s your campaign slogan for the fascists aka Republicans.
80% of the Republicans, hmm do tell *insert chuckle*.
Just from the links posted this morning about polls.
Gallup has Republicans at 25% of the people they polled. So 80% 0f 25% is 20%, A much less scary number than the headline. The world is running scared of 20% of the electorate.
Other fun number, 40% of Republicans believe that political violence is necessary. That is 10% of the electorate and so far none of those 10% have risked any penalties or jail time for those actions. A little jail time for the idiots could easily cut that number in half.
Jack
As to voting reform, For the primary
1. do away with party affiliation voting. Most areas of this country are one party rules so give the regular voter a chance to select the party candidate they most favor. Pick the top two.
Parties are not constitutional.
2 ranked choice voting. Lets you build a majority candidate.
3. National qualifications to run in the primary. If you qualify then you run in every state.
Jack
Agree Pogo, about NAACP standing issue. Dead police officer’s family should file for wrongful death. That could survive a motion to dismiss.
That 20% is armed and dangerous, and, there is a larger, unarmed/quieter number of folks who will side with the domestic terrorists and their orange monster of a leader…or Ted Cruz…or whatever.
Yep, it’s always lying under oath that gets them. If they think their digital trail has bern deleted, they are wrong. I truly hope Cruz is implicated in the planning and carrying out of the attack. He’s just evil.
The evangelicals are running an ad about their religious freedom disappearing under the new administration.
Meanwhile, the tRUMPsky administration was the most un-Christian acting if that’s what they are basing their feelings on. It is not. They want to cling to racism and homophobia and misogyny. Love one another. They can’t even do that. Strip them of their tax-exempt status is they are gonna talk politics. An ad against a political administration seems like it proves they’ve crossed the line.
Work is shut down the rest of the week. More snow/sleet tonight, plus, power outages have made it impossible. Maybe this will slow down the virus a little if folks are stuck at home.
pogo & craig, would any of the black voters* joining in from wisconsin, pennsylvania, georgia whose votes were put in jeopardy provide the standing you don’t think the NAACP & the congress critters (who were traumatized as well as kept from their constitutional duty) have?
*particularly those who had to fork over money for lawyers to challenge any of those 60 lawsuits trump & co eventually lost
” The only things in the ‘Middle of the Road’ are yellow strips and dead armadillos”
The Know Nothings 2.O
Pat, that sounds like a stretch to me. Think Pogo would agree courts are pretty strict about standing issues, not much room for imagination.
Republican on NPR: Don’t pay $15/hour to anyone under 26, because if they get a living wage, they won’t continue their education. Yeah…but maybe the money would help pay for a certification of some sort, plus luxuries like food and rent. Who in the hell thinks poverty is an incentive? A Republican. Who thinks $15/hour is sufficient for a lifetime and that folks will get complacent? A Republican. Make Republicans all live on less than $10/hour and listen to them whine. This is pure racism. They wrongly assume minimum wage will only lift up POC, and Republicans just can’t have that.
patd, Poobah is correct – I do agree with him on the standing issue. In its most basic terms standing requires a showing that the plaintiff(s) suffered harm as a result of the defendants’ actions in violation of the law relied upon as the basis for the suit. Like I said, I’m not familiar enough with the 1871 KKK Act (Also known as the Enforcement Act of 1871) to know whether the plaintiffs in this suit would appear to fit under its protections, but my recollection is that it was passed to keep the KKK in the South from terrorizing black folks to keep them from voting. It was one of 3 acts passed in 1870 and 1871 to enforce provisions of the 14th Amendment, but as to the details of that act – I don’t know them.
Oh, and bear in mind, Federal District Courts do not use imagination to keep cases before them alive – just the contrary. If they can find a way to bounce a case, they will.
So what that Politico/MC poll tells me is that the base that was at 37-38% (arguably at 47% around election day) has shrunk by at least 4 points, but likely by more than that.
Good to see you both BiD and CBob. It sounds atrocious in Texas. Ice sucks (we awoke to it, but it wasn’t that bad… no power outages around here)… and you guys don’t have the stuff needed to deal with single digit temperatures. Everyone around here has a wood stove as either their main source of heat or as back-up. A good many of us have generators too. I hope you continue to stay safe.
I found this CNN article interesting….
Why the Republican Party is poised to tear itself apart…
Pogo: “If they can find a way to bounce a case, they will.”
I learned that the hard way. Judges throwing me out for creative theories partly why I left law for journalism. My editors more tolerant.
good arguments, bad arguments, they all pay the same
phooey. you guys are party poopers. i was so enjoying the fantasy of all those depositions and discovery requests.
if they haven’t a case then why would counsel not advise them accordingly and save some time and money? can’t imagine their lawyers haven’t thought of every angle in re standing
One of my coworkers has been without power (heat) since yesterday at 3am. Today, it was treacherous walking where cars have ventured out, but I had to get out and move around. More frozen stuff on the way. There will be a huge ice storm south of DFW; we should get a mix with snow. Hope TT is OK. The power grid is stressed.
Just got 2nd Moderna dose at Dodger Stadium. It’s wide open and they didn’t check to confirm our appointments. All they checked was our 1st dose cards to make sure we were due for shot. In and out in less than 4o min. Hope this info helps someone.
patd, don’t cry in your beer yet. This isn’t a run of the mill personal injury case, and the plaintiffs aren’t going to be footing the bills. It’s something the NAACP wants to pursue because of the issue involved – which sounds like it may be their attempt to get back into the voting rights arena now that Dumbass and his DOJ are out of the way. And I can’t say they don’t have a case, but I just tend to be realistic having swum in that pond before. Haven’t seen the complaint and haven’t read that act (or any cases based on that Act) or the enabling regulations so there could indeed be a case out there with some legs. I suppose we’ll see. There is an alternative to dismissal at the outset assuming NAACP gets past the standing hurdle, and that is for discovery to proceed and see whether the facts developed in discovery are sufficient that it survives the inevitable Motion for Summary Judgment that the defendants will file and supports a trial of the matter. Let’s see how it plays out over the next month or two before we start laying bets on this one.
i called my doctor’s office to see when i could get a vaccine, and their reply was, essentially, “don’t hold your breath”
…so i will continue to😶
BiD, glad I’m not in Dallas or anywhere north of there and west of the Mississippi and Ohio River valleys. It’s definitely winter here, but not like what you, CB & Jack are dealing with. Stay warm and safe.
Bink, I’m in a divided household. My 2nd dose is scheduled on the 24th, but Mrs. P, being a few years younger than I am, is not eligible for the vaccine yet. So getting the vaccine is nice in that I feel like if I go to Kroger and get the bug it won’t kill me, but since I can get it even after completing the vaccine regimen, I still have to act as if I haven’t to keep Mrs. P – who wouldn’t go to Kroger on a dare right now – safe.
American Experience last night did one on Marion Anderson, and her snub by the DAR, her tagline at the time was, ” The Voice of the Century “.
Eleanor got Harold Ickes to ask the President to OK the permit for the Lincoln gig.
FDR’s response was –
“She can sing on the top of the Washington Monument if she wants.”
“Symbolically, the concert took place on Easter Sunday, April 9, 1939. The sun was shining as 75,000 people of all races crowded together; the largest gathering to assemble there since Lindbergh’s reception in 1927. ”
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/eleanor-anderson/
i’m still a total COVID loon, but i’ve relaxed my protocol a tiny bit concerning public spaces (that is to say: i’m reasonably confident with double-masks), it’s obviously not quite as contagious as i initially worried it was, but i’d still recommend to anyone else to avoid it like the plague😜💀
i still sanitize my hands constantly, still wipe down cold groceries (ok all groceries), but i don’t scrub my floors constantly, or wash doorknobs 25x a day (maybe thrice).
i don’t share air, that’s the key*
*not an infectious disease expert, use all caution for yourself
i’ll assert, also with some confidence, that if everybody just wore masks diligently 9 months ago, this pandemic would have been snuffed out; masks seem to be highly efficacious when utilized uniformly*
*once again, not an infectious disease expert, exercise all caution independently
It’s 15 F degrees here @ 4 PM.
It’s 24 F degrees in Anchorage , Ak. @ Noon .
The Flying Monkey Air Force is running round the clock sorties.
I thought “Preacher Pat’s” head was going to explode this morning .
If you don’t want Bill Gates’ Mark of the Beast, then wear a cotton mask, ya friggin’ moron*
*obviously not directed to any of you wise folk**
**ok, pardon me✌️
Bink –
Re Masks :
The seasonal flu count is way down. That right there , is proof of your observation.
***…must report that general participation has been pretty good, locally, but there was still at least two assholes, today, struttin’ around sans mask🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄****
****hacked account
lol @ dummy undermining the most effective Republican leader of my lifetime😆
Over 15 years ago , I noticed is would be the tagline of the future –
” We’ve Never Seen this Before ” , back then it came every few months , now it’s a daily dose.
Old African Proverb –
” When elephants fight , … only the grass suffers ”
McConnell defends acquittal in WSJ op-ed but blasts Trump’s “unhinged falsehoods”
https://t.co/NRP1BAvmaZ
CC –
They still think they have control over this lab experiment gone wrong.
God Bless Glenn Campbell . He played led on some of the best of the Beach Boy’s songs.
Greg Abbott just gave a hilarious interview on local news. He’s signed an EO to investigate ERCOT. He sounded like he’d been pounding Red Bulls. Generators are broken and there’s no timeline to fix anything. Natural gas (pumps, I guess) are frozen. It’s a Republican cluster.
As for tRUMPsky going after Yertle, he asked for it. He had a chance to lead those Republicans who would follow him to convict the bastard and prevent him from running, again. They eat their own.
Blue –
It’s all Bedo’s fault.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-deep-green-freeze-11613411002
OM – Ha!
I think they become nazis cause nazis get to wear all the really cool hats.
When pavement is not plowed –
Our paved surfaces are now very ” lumpy” . The entire outside world will eat you , if you crack your door.
bid – cold, eh? I just saw something about the natural gas freezing down there. Well, the problem is not the gas, it does not freeze. What happens is the water and wax in the gas freezes then blocks the valves and then the pipes. The only way to clear the valves and lines is to thaw and melt the blockages. The northern fields have trucks that produce steam which is used to heat things. I don’t think North Texas crude has a need for steam – usually. If the gas is coming down from Colorado and Wyoming then Texas is still not ready for blockages.
YES !
They do wear really cool hats !
But that’s not a world view, it’s what German’s do .
Now they make really cool cars, and really crazy porn.
BB – So, Gov. Abbott’s EO for an ERCOT investigation isn’t necessary. You just answered it. A rare weather event
and crystallized water in the mix. He really did sound more animated/amped up than I’ve ever heard him.
Weeelllllll, Abbott is an idiot, but we knew that.
Blue B –
The News Hour just ran with this very topic.
A. The wind turbines are running near what is expected
B. All other forms of “thermo” energy are falling down.
( This involves water , and that it freezes. )
Then the real nut of the whole thing came into focus .
And along with it , a beautiful title for it .
A National Electrical Architecture
Our power grid is man’s largest , and most complex “patch work quilt “.
And it’s all old to boot .
This is golden moment for Uncle Joe , and the “left” .
All of this green electric gets better when we can move it all around .
Case in point –
There is a big fat nuke plant setting East and North of Phoenix. We cannot crank it up. There are no wires to El Paso .
Texas made it’s self into an island.
One more thing …………..
Years ago there was , “An Energy Crises ” in the North.
Texas was wearing this sticker on her pick-up bumper –
“Let The Bastards Freeze In The Dark”
It is events like this week that you plan and build for, Just like they should be planning on multi days of 100 degree plus weather in July and August with a mega drought.
If you live out here on the great plains you know these massive cold waves happen sometimes with frequent regularity. It is not uncommon for cold weather to come flying down the edge of the Rocky mountains locking up the great plains from Canada to Mexico. Don’t tell me they have never seen such problems or are caught by surprise. That is just an admission of incompetence on their part.
In the last 40 years we have changed the way our grids and backup power work, the new system has fail. I suspect for the same reason our banking system failed in 2008, Too many people cut too many corners. Most days it was never a problem.
/rant
Jack
This is not a disaster for Uncle Joe , it’s a golden moment for him, Texas talks of session .
Of all the disaster payments of any state , Texas is #1 .
Year in year out.
Flooding the “Energy Capital of the World” is not cheap, and we’ve been doing that more and more.
Who Loves Ya Jack ?
I attest to what the “old pattern” was , and what we see it here.
The point is, the entire system is getting “snakeyer ” and “blockier” .
On the edges of this pattern run really mean lows .
See typhoons .
Walley –
I paraphrase , his words .
” The Climate can be a really mean beast , and we are poking at it with sticks “
To understand a good article from WaPo
LOL, just the little things. Like winterize your diesel fuel so it doesn’t turn to jelly.
Ha They should have been driving big rigs hauling that produce from California to NYC Just one time setting in a cold truck waiting for a tow and you learn for a lifetime.
Jack
Jack –
It is not a new system , in fact it is no system.
It’s a Pollock painting with new drops on it.
Everyday.
Just life on the great plains, too damn hot, then too damn cold.
BTW anybody who stuck their head out yesterday knows the wind was blowing, so don’t blame the wind turbines
Jack
Jack –
So good to see you Muchaco.
Bob, back when we had real hard winters, 78 79, 80 we didn’t have this problem We had local robust systems that came on line. All that has changed You and I are locked into system that goes from North Dakota all the way down to your world. As the article points out they are doing it on the cheap, it is just like the “Just in time manufacturing” which works great until your supplier closes because of covid.
Jack
Jack –
Oh no , the lie of the day was they were all frozen.
Jack =
Stay on for this , I have to type it .
The world’s largest ship parking lot.
My bro is part of KC metro area, although he’s kinda in the country, so he may experience rolling blackouts.
My company had to shut down for the week. With the power going up and down willy-nilly they are afraid it will fry the server if there’s a surge. Nobody can get to the office anyway, but now no work from home, either. Whatta cluster.
TT may be without power.
The world’s largest ship parking lot.
Australia bet on coal .
What did they get ?
A billion dead animals , and China twisting their cajones.
The Rupert Plan is Dead as well.
Found it …………………
Bohai Bay
While there have been some reports suggesting China will allow more Australian coal cargoes to dock, mapping data from MarineTraffic today shows Bohai Bay is the world’s largest shipping parking lot. Bohai Bay terminals are where most coal carriers have been held up in recent months.6 days ago
Aussie coal ban bites, Bohai Bay becomes the world’s largest …
splash247.com › aussie-coal-ban-bites-bohai-bay-become…
I think they turned down the power to our street lights. It is also one of the ways the city saves money, our lights have slowly been getting dimmer. But tonight I thought they were out but they are there it is just really dark out.
BID so far not in KC innercity but out in Kansas, Johnson county overland park area they did some yesterday. Don’t know about today but the warning was out.
Everybody is busy passing the buck claiming it is all out of their hands, somebody else is forcing them…..
Jack
Jack –
Looking at snow now makes me blind in doors for nearly 45 mins.
Sounds like it’s time for electric grid infrastructure week, month, year(s). To apply an old saw, Rome wasn’t built in a day, AND it didn’t fall in a day (more like 80 years – a period that was longer than from the beginning of WWI through the 1st GHWB US war against Iraq, or if you prefer, from the beginning of the age of the automobile to the first internet virus) Time to do some planning, spending and building.
BTW Joe is doing a great job at the town hall CNN is sponsoring tonight. It’s so nice to have a thoughtful adult discussing the problems we face as a country without demonizing half of the country.
Young Crawford –
Get a grant , and call this place a ,
” Long Term Care Facility “.
We are a long way from that campfire at the ” Fish Camp “.
This is creepy –
I left Facebook years ago , and tonight I’m looking for old work .
So I google Colorado Bob .
And my Facebook page pops up . At the top of the search .
Me , hungin a tree .
https://www.facebook.com/colorado.bob.3
Try it , google Colorado Bob , open the first link, tell me what you see . I need to know.
My plan may have worked.
Just finished watching Uncle Joe on CNN. He was wonderful. We’ve gone from Hitler to Mr. Rogers in just one election. What a country!
Why did Joe have to fly to WI? I guess more personal if not just a zoom call, though.
Jack, He’s just outside of the OP.
I just discovered this band called the Moody Blues. Listening to “Question” on repeat.
Robert Gambell gave me my name .
A little known blues man trying for fame.
What happened to Robert ?
You mean ” Colorado Bob ” ?
He ran off to the woods to become , ” a granola cruncher ”
That was 51 years ago.
His dad gave the best advice ever.
” Bob, what you want to do is to get to where a whole lot of money is changing hands , and hope some of it sticks to you. ”
I see your face book page
The second link is a bar in St Louis
Jack
I got that name , it’s mine.
No one ever remembers second .
I am one man they are a bar.
They were in the lead for years.
I have been off this effort for years.
Jack –
It’s my electric tombstone , we are all kings at heart.
We want the future to know us. Even if we lay in a pauper’s grave.
I am that asshole who believed that making leather art was a path to fortune, boy was I wrong .
Too Much Errol Flynn When I Was Ten
My work is in the Autry Museum of the West . Little kids touch it .
I made a gourd canteen for my contact there. I lined it with beeswax. It was encased in raw hide with a sling , the “stopper” was a deer antler.
It was about a 4,000 year old ghost.
They found a horse in Utah. It was just after the Spanish started losing them .
She was a mare with signs of wear , 12 years old , buried in a pit in a 18,000 year-old lake.
Faces. Great start for a couple guys who became rock royalty.
In 1720 the Comanche came in force to the Taos Fair. All of them were riding horses , this is a big deal.
They had found a game , steal from weak missions , and sell the slaves, back !
This went on for well over a hundred years.
Then the Texans came .
There is a place North of me , where R S Mackenzie shot every horse the Comanche owned.
We named a state park after him.
When the Spanish got there , the richest place was Pecos.
It was the Venice of the West .
Robes , jerked meat , flint , slaves, horses. Coming West.
Pots, jewelry , beans, corn , furs , going East.
All of it was built on feet.
Imus’s place is right next to it.
Big Medicene at Pecos
Some old cold sound track –
Just see the Lama , She was everything .
” Hello Lama ”
” What’s up Bob? ”
” We’re ready to slam steel ”
” Rodger that “
I flew with Charlie Blaze . I water skied across Yampa River bare feet , at the end of his long line .
He then took me out into the river , and made sure I was just as wet as every other one.
Charlie hated ” nose pickers ” .
One morning at the LZ , the Amoco guys showed up.
We all mustered for the big event. I looked at him, and he picked his nose with his knuckle.
The Lama was loud , and very powerful . It could pick-up it’s own weight at sea level.
One time we were haulin’ ass out of the mountains above Nephi .
We were runnin’ a 50 ft , long line . This made the Lama faster, but it was hell under it .
I’m sitting on this rock watching the ship fly up stream , and this rabbit crawls around the base of pine tree. Making sure that tree was between him and the Lama.
I laughed , and asked , ” Whats the matter Bugs ? You never saw a Lama ? ”
Louis was buying the beer.
” Louis what are you going ? ”
” Bob, I’m jumping out of helicopters , and scaring the shit out of the wild life ”
” Can you get me a job ? “
NEW THREAD
TEXAS: WINTER STORM
Because Tejas repubes don’t want to deal with the Fed., they have their own POWER GRID. They do get power from MEXICO. You can vet what I’m saying, I don’t have time because Spectrum has been mostly out for days.
ERCOT manages the power grid. They’ve pushed off to carriers like Oncor and providers like TXU the power problem, of course,
This is what ya get with repube deregulation. There’s no oversight for ERCOT, et. al. After the 1988 storm everyone said they should winterize the power plants. And after the 2011 storm the same thing. And here we are in 2021, the same thing.
The gas, coat, and nuclear plants are all frozen due to no winterizing. NO power lines are down. It’s not like the great ice storm of 1991 in Rochester, NY where lines crashed due to the weight of ice. However, there’s supposed to ice tonight. ha-ha And then power lines will be DOWN on top of everything else. We’ve had power because we live close to a firehouse. People living close to hospitals also have power. The rest, nope. They’re counting in hours how long the area has been below freezing, 32. Last I hears was 144 hours.
Warming centers are open for the homeless creating a covid super spreading event. All the stray animals are dead by now. Frozen to death.
The only reports on roads are freeways. I went to the food store because there’s more storm coming tonight. They don’t report on the roads because there’s nothing to report. Certainly no salt put down. And no sand either. The main roads and side roads are pristine snow covered. And driving wasn’t bad if you’re from the north.
In their wisdom, someone turned off the power to the Eagle Mountain water treatment plant. Without power, they can’t move nor clean the water. Genius! So people are asked to boil water. Boil if they don’t need electricity to boil anything.
DART light rail trains have been still for days. Covid vaccines have stopped for days in an already f’ed up distribution system.
Hotels with power are full. Price gouging is running amuck. One hotel room, the news said, was $900/night. A women at DFW airport was charged $200 to get home in an adjacent town. Greed, repube greed at it’s best.
All this and more due to republicans not wanting to deal with the Fed. This is what no oversight, no government control, free markets, and regulation gets ya. And when Tejas succeeds from the union, it’ll be even worse than this. I went to the food store. Dairy, produce, meat, and bread were empty. No transport. Trucks can’t get here. If everything were deregulated, it’d be like a banana republic, more than it is now.
Keep voting republican. Keep getting screwed while they get theirs.