Author: patd
“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad." "How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.” ― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland View all posts by patd
After a violent far-right insurrection of the nation’s Capitol, many former Trump affiliates are finally saying “enough.” How brave! But before you make yourself ill trying to tweet a thank you to Mitch McConnell, remember, these people are NOT heroes! Part 2 of 2.
wapo editorial board:
What is the procedure for moving members of Congress who were in on the Republicans’ attack on the Capitol? You know they have video of the recon mission in the halls of the Capitol building. You know they will find digital evidence in emails and texts. So, how do we purge the seditious bastards???
Getting rid of tRUMPsky NOW is the only thing that will not embolden them. Never in his life has he had to suffer the consequences of his words or actions. If he remains until the end of his term, he got away with it AND he is still a danger.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle-rittenhouse-bond-agreement-drinking-racist-signs/index.html
The pillow cokehead and the kid from Silver Spoons (who had his domestic abuse charged dropped) helped post bail for the ws murderer. Making a list of racist, tRUMPsky-lovin’ seditionists just to know who hates democracy.
BID, that’s not happening, so no use tilting against that windmill. McMertle has made it clear that the trial of DJT will not occur on his watch, so we move on.
OM, I corrected my comment from yesterday. I believe the Atwater movement in the Repugn party is alive and well.
Please understand that Democrats in the Senate represent 41,549,808 more Americans than do Republicans, the split being 186.5M (D) to 144.5 M (R), so even a party line vote would represent a 13% margin against Dumbass as a percentage of population represented by Democrats.
Impeachment is just a word. It means nothing without actual consequences.
Saying don’t make me turn this car around, but never turning the car around, is pointless. It just shows other Republicans that they can get away with being un-American, racist, fascist, and even seditious, and nothing will happen to them.
To hell with Republicans. None of them should be allowed on any intelligence or other committee with national security intel.
i do wish the media would stop talking about the senate impeaching. the house has already impeached. done deal. twice. the senate convicts and may add non-criminal penalties or the senate doesn’t convict.
BiD, impeachment in itself has consequences when you look at the pardon power in
Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
hawley future looking dim
newsweek via msn:
More banks dump Trump… https://t.co/L4ozQs0aMl
Dare we dream? He ends up broke AND in prison
Patd, that only means he cannot prevent impeachment of himself or other officials subject to impeachment by pardoning the person facing impeachment.
For those who try to legislate or rule just as things were in the late 1770’s, the originalist or literal types, I have a question, what would Washington have done if there had been an attack on the legislative branch? This was before the strong judicial branch. This would be just as the first years of the Republic operating while not at war. We know that George was not above hanging troops who did things in camp. We know that he would punish bad doers. Would he have had the Army take the insurrectionists and punished them? Would he hang the leader? Would he ask the legislative branch to do the investigation and mete the punishment?
I am concerned that the push to censure the idiot and imbecile or pardon it is too weak. We need closure, even if that means thousands of arrests and prison time.
@PeteWilliamsNBC: The National Mall will now be closed for Inauguration Day. The National Mall’s closure — from the Capitol to the Washington Monument to the Lincoln Memorial — closes the inauguration to the general public.
Here is another death of someone close to SFB, Dr. Borenstein. He is the first doctor to declare the idiot and imbecile “healthy”.
So, can the rioters who are arrested for entering the capital building be charged with Felony murder?
Here is an interesting article on the subject
Jack
I remember when Trump dumped Dr. Borenstein for revealing he had prescribed hair restoration meds
New: Allegations of racism against the Capitol Police are nothing new: Over 250 Black cops have sued the department since 2001. Some of those former officers now say it’s no surprise white nationalists were able to storm the building. https://t.co/nfMn9FN964
Faux Spews sometimes borders on the totally comic. This morning, probably to avoid saying anything about impeachment, they were up in arms because Nancy Pelosi used “gendered” language in referring to herself as a daughter, mother, and grandmother. Apparently she authorized a house rule recently that stated all written House communications would be gender neutral i.e Chair instead of chairman etc. Fox was opining that they guessed it was okay to say it but not to write it and and wondered if in recording her remarks she would be a child, parent, or grandperson.
Bye Bye Birdie parody
https://youtu.be/6UIrR2IHlH4
Jack
I hope they have video of some sort on who was wielding the fire extinguishers that killed the one polieman.
good one Jamie… and on that note…
Are You a Robot
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/14/ken-paxton-texas-whistleblower-lawsuit/
The law doesn’t apply to Ken Paxton.
Not only bankrupt and in prison, but he and his entire administration and crime family should be shunned.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/andrew-yang-candidate-mayor-new-york/index.html
Andrew Yang is running for mayor of NYC
Got my Joe flag flying.
Had to chuckle at the $540/hour argument that AG Paxton is neither a public employee nor a governmental entity of the state of Texas so Texas’ whistle blower law does not apply to his firing of 4 employees in retaliation for reporting what they believe to be the aG breaking the law. I would hope $540/hr would yield a better argument than that.
Craig,
Aren’t you and David up near Embassy Row? How much security level do you have in your area?
pogo, okay i’ll accede to your more learned interpretation. the language is pretty vague though and, as madison opined according to this passage by brookings, his pardon power is curtailed with regard to perps involved with why he is being impeachment. here’s an excerpt:
“ …video of some sort on who was wielding the fire extinguishers” -Jamie
apprehended
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-house-biden/card/jjabJi3k3h0KAkxYDoWY
…or maybe not
“ The extinguisher that Mr. Sanford allegedly threw is separate from the one that killed Officer Brian Sicknick, who was also struck in the head with a fire extinguisher during the unrest and died from his wounds, officials said.”
It was the one that was used as a murder weapon that I really wanted.
‘net sleuthing to ID culprits is one way you can help the effort from the comfort of your own home🤷♂️
i don’t want to link murder videos, here- you know how to use google
(there are communities on reddit working towards that fyi)
Pet Peeve Dept.
”That’s a really good question.”
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/impeachment-state-of-play/index.html
Seditionist Senators want to run out the clock, saying they’ll have no authority in the matter after Jan 20th.
(Of course, if the shoe was on the other foot…)
https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/14/abraham-lincoln-bust-removed-white-house-president-honest-abe/
The tRUMPs appear to be ransacking the WH!
So, as far as i’ve read, the Constitution describes the impeachment of a “President”, but not a former one, and by extension, does not* preclude the continuation of the impeachment process once begun, so have fun with that, Rethugs
Don’t forget to be “strict constructionists”!👍
*(edited bc i forgot the most important word of the comment)
Evict them now. Send in the sheriff
I got my first dose of The Vaccine Moderna. Now how to get the second seems kind of confused. The second day my arm was sore but no other side effects
So many reports Trump White House goons can’t find jobs. At least they’ll get Biden’s new $1,400 stimulus checks.
One might think being willing to lie infinitely in service of, cheat for, and get scape-goated by your boss would play well with potential employers 🤷♂️
FOX News 6pm broadcast finally reporting white supremacists led Capitol Hill riots, rejecting bogus claims Antifa involved. Welcome to the real world!
NIH study: “Suicide attempts of subjects diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder had higher expected lethality than those of subjects without narcissistic personality disorder” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19607766/
They may be trying to hock various and sundry objects from the WH that they are hauling out.
Did someone take inventory before the tRUMPskys moved in?
crackers – Glad you’re half of the way there. I kinda hope I get the Dolly Parton vaccine, too, but I’ll take what I can get…and will probably be June.
I do think Trump will eventually commit suicide, just like Hitler. Psychotic narcissists like him want to control their fate.
The ghost writer for “Art of the Deal” was on Melber today with the opinion that Trump oscillates between anger and delusion. This is something he has been saying since about 2015. It is a matter of how hard the crash will be if his ever present delusions are destroyed and he is forced to confront his own lies.
He has too high an opinion of himself for that
Although i won’t argue if one was to assert he in actuality has an abysmal opinion of himself, hence the constant need for validation
Gotta agree with Bink on this one. We might think this is the bottom of the pit, but SFB thinks he can get away with anything. Off to the next grift. If he did get desperate, I’m afraid he’d take out others before he did anything to himself.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/first-lady-melania-trump-path-forward/
Melanoma is full-on in on the “our movement” garbage. Fried baloney.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/stimulus-payments-2000-dollars-biden/index.html
Glad Georgia came through. Extra overhead for the next $1,400, because Republicans cheaped out/don’t care about citizens or the economy.
Today’s webinar was about the k-shaped recovery. Some folks aren’t recovering at all; they are still sliding down. It will be 2022, before the decline stops. Many will never make up ground. The hardest hit are black women, followed by all women with young children.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/donald-trump-presidency-ending/index.html
SFB wants a grand send off. He’s whining about leaving on a plane no longer called AF1. Here’s a thought. Leave while you’re still prez. Today works.
What is starting to pierce the delusion of Biden being “Socialist” is the absolute fact that on a per capita basis, the Scandinavian countries have more billionaires than the US. It has been very well known for a long while that if you pump money in at the bottom, it eventually gets to the top and everyone is a whole lot better off financially. If you put it in at the top, it just sits there making Wall Street look good until the crash that eventually comes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/joanne-rogers-wife-mister-rogers-dies-age-92-n1254324
Awww, Mrs. Rogers has passed.
Yep. Feed the roots. We are top heavy.
To add to the mix of SFB questions of mental state is what drugs is he taking? Some drugs are capable of making things worse for some people.
You mean like when he was on steroids after he had the cofeve?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-bathroom-secret-service/index.html
This is both sad and hilarious. The bathroom chronicles.
I suggest you study the case of William Belknap, U.S. Grant’s Secretary of War He was tried in the Senate following impeachment by the house. His trial in the Senate occurred after he resigned from office.
Nice try, though. The only thing unique about the impeachment trial of the president is that the Chief Justice presided over his trial.
BTW, that’s being debated on CNN right now.
*”does NOT preclude”
is what i meant to type. phone commenting: you know how it goes
in my interpretation, the impeachment process just had to be started while he is President, which it has
if only he read trailmix, he could have taken my advice and resigned before the House took it up
too late now
The one I’m curious about is whether Scotus Judge Thomas can be removed due to his wife bringing about 70 people to the rally that later led to mob invasion of the Capitol. If any of those people were involved, then it becomes “What did he know and when did he know it?”
This was the biggest deal since War of 1812 for sure, but 1954 was no picnic.
the failed Dumbass presidency in 12 words. Sad. From WaPo .
Bink, funny how the omission or inclusion of negatives changes what we intend to say, no? Actually, if I read the articles about Belknap correctly he resigned, THEN the House brought up the articles of impeachment against him, but I’m not sure.
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