I don’t care if they respect me, so long as they fear me.

— Caligula

August 9, 1974 Nixon resigns.

We kept the newspapers and put them in special bags to keep them for posterity.  The shock and the importance of the event was so hard to believe.  There was nothing to reference in our lives for this event.

Those newspapers moved around the country with us, always a reminder of a tremendous event.  If only we knew to keep more than one copy of each newspaper.

This week has shaken many of us more than watching Tricky Dick waving his stupid fingers as he entered the helicopter.

As close to a disaster Nixon had brought us, it is nothing like what the idiot and imbecile is doing.  He directed an attack on the Congress, the Vice President and the Speaker of the House.  He had tried to cause damage if not death to the people who are supposed to be in place for succession of the government.

The Executive Branch put together an attack on the Legislative Branch of the U.S. government.  The only reason the coup d’état failed is because the idiot failed to create a usable military unit which could capture or kill the Congress and the Vice President.  Due to his narcissistic brain he could not pass command to someone, such as a former general named Flynn, who could create a unit capable of taking over the Capitol building.

I am not saving the newspapers now.  Going forward the Internet will record what is happening.

The new impeachment is a real one.  This time it is to impeach a president who tried to  become a dictator.


Author: Blue Bronc

Born in Detroit when Truman was president, survived the rest of them. Early on I learned that FDR was the greatest president, which has withstood all attempts to change that image. Democratic Party, flaming liberal, Progressive, equality for all and a believer in we are all human and deserve respect and understanding. College educated, a couple of degrees, a lot of world experience and tons of fun. US Air Force (pre-MRE days). Oil and gas fields, computer rooms and stuff beyond anything I can talk about. It has been quite a life so far. The future is making my retirement boat my home. Dogs, cats and other critters fill my life with happiness. Work pays the bills.

88 thoughts on “I don’t care if they respect me, so long as they fear me.”

  1. BB, good thread topic.  here are 2 more fearsome quotes from a 2019 NYTimes story:

    Richard M. Nixon once said, “People react to fear, not love; they don’t teach that in Sunday school, but it’s true.”
    No president since has deployed fear quite like Donald J. Trump. Whether it is the prospect of a crime wave at the border with Mexico or nuclear war with North Korea, President Trump has persuaded his supporters that there is plenty to fear beyond fear itself.
    In an interview as a presidential candidate in 2016 with Bob Woodward and Robert Costa of The Washington Post, Mr. Trump said, “Real power is — I don’t even want to use the word — fear.”
    … there is one place where Mr. Trump’s fear tactics have been an unqualified success: among Republicans. Mr. Trump has held an iron grip on the Republican base, making it difficult for fellow party members, who also rely on those core voters, to oppose him.

  2. and from Time in 2017 :

    Trump’s approach is particularly jarring because of the contrast with his predecessor. Unlike past Democrats and Republicans, President Obama largely shied away from using fear as a political weapon, Glassner says. Critics often excoriated him for his sanguine comments about the state of the war on terrorism. But hope, not fear, was Obama’s political metier.
    Trump has a different approach, one that benefits from the echo chamber of social media. “He’s created an entire climate” of fear, Glassner says, “through this constant social media work that then creates a feedback loop. He tweets. The media writes about it. Cable TV has a panel that takes it seriously.” When he pumps alarm into the system, it lingers.
    Trump’s approach is more the rule than the exception. “The whole aim of practical politics,” H.L. Mencken wrote almost a century ago,” is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
    Never has that adage been truer than now.

  3. on taking away their maga hatter (aka mega hater) megaphone

    the guardian reports:

     Google has suspended the Parler social networking app from its Play Store until the platform popular with many supporters of Donald Trump adds “robust” content moderation.

    As Twitter suspended the US president’s account permanently over the risk of further incitement to violence”, the search engine said it was blocking Parler and Apple gave the service 24 hours to submit a detailed moderation plan.

    Parler is a social network to which many Trump supporters have migrated after being banned themselves from platforms such as including Twitter. Plans for the protests in Washington DC that ended in the storming of the Capitol this week were widely shared on Parler.

    The actions by the two Silicon Valley companies mean that Parler could become unavailable for new downloads on the world’s main mobile phone app stores within a day. It would still be available in mobile browsers.


  4. jc quoted by matt: “for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword”

    vanity fair the hive:

    Twenty-four hours after inciting a deadly riot on Capitol Hill, Donald Trump appeared to finally grasp the political peril and legal jeopardy sure to consume the waning days of his presidency and perhaps beyond. According to Republicans close to the White House, Trump posted the two-and-a-half-minute video Thursday night—during which he grudgingly acknowledged Joe Biden’s win for the first time—as an attempt to stave off prosecution or being removed from office via impeachment or the 25th Amendment. “He knows how bad things got. He knew he fucked up,” a 2020 campaign adviser told me. “This was the political Charlottesville,” a former West Wing official said.

    According to one Republican briefed on internal conversations, Trump was swayed in part by Senator Lindsey Graham. The source said Graham called Trump yesterday and explained that there were enough Republican votes in the Senate to remove Trump from office unless he conceded the election and diffused tensions. “He told Trump that he had to say there would be a ‘peaceful transition.’ Those were the key words,” the Republican said. (In the video Trump said: “My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly, and seamless transition of power.”)


    Trump’s fear of legal exposure is also being driven by his conversations with White House counsel Pat Cipollone. A source close to the West Wing told me Cipollone warned staff on Wednesday that they could be at risk if they helped Trump fuel the riot. “The warning he gave triggered resignations,” the source said. On Friday morning CNN reported that Cipollone is considering resigning. 


  5. The scary thing for me is I have lived through two presidents, Nixon and the idiot and imbecile, who have tried to overthrow our rule of laws in a direct method.  Along with another two who were close, Regan and Bush II.  One thing that is common is they are members of the greedy old pervert party.  Excluding Bush the second, the others were determined to fleece the flock of true believers.  Fools who were brain washed into believing the old Calvinist teaching that the poor were that way for their own failings and they deserve paying the rich to become richer.  That they believe that allows making them susceptible to believe other conspiracy crap, such as the q thing.  How to fix it?  I don’t know.  Smart people need to come up with that.

  6. “…Graham called Trump yesterday and explained that there were enough Republican votes in the Senate to remove Trump from office…”

  7. So what happens next?  Ask Chuck

    On the cusp of the second impeachment battle in just over a year, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is circulating a memo to Republican senators that outlines how a potential Senate trial would work for President Trump — proceedings that would all but certainly occur after he leaves the White House.

    In the memo, obtained by The Washington Post, McConnell’s office notes that the Senate will not reconvene for substantive business until Jan. 19, which means the earliest possible date that impeachment trial proceedings can begin in the Senate is the day before President-elect Joe Biden is inaugurated.

    Although the Senate will hold two pro forma sessions next week, on Jan. 12 and Jan. 15, it is barred from conducting any kind of business during those days — including “beginning to act on received articles of impeachment from the House” — without agreement from all 100 senators. With a cadre of Trump-allied senators in the Republican conference, that unanimous consent is highly unlikely.

    ●On Jan. 19, the Senate would receive a message from the House that it has appointed impeachment managers, and that the Senate would be ready to receive it.

    ●On Jan. 19 or 20, the House impeachment managers would exhibit the articles.

    ●On Jan. 20 or 21, the Senate would proceed to consideration of the impeachment articles at 1 p.m., and officially begin the trial. McConnell’s memo noted that the “Senate trial would therefore begin after President Trump’s term has expired — either one hour after its expiration on January 20, or twenty-five hours after its expiration on January 21.”

    There is also a question of who exactly would preside over a trial of a former president. Senate impeachment rules require Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. preside over a trial of a sitting president, but whether he would have to once Trump is no longer president is “unclear,” the memo said.

    Let the impeachment begin- to protect us from the stupidity of the MAGAts in 4 years. Give the Asshole what he wants – his place in history. 

  8. but but no matter what mitch memo-ed, what about rule III?     if house manages to get impeachment delivered ASAP this week then senate has no choice but to take it up next day after delivery.

    however little glitch that says “unless otherwise ordered by senate”*** 

    see CNN article from year ago on rule niceties

    *** don’t they have to reconvene in order to take a vote on that “unless” exception?
    what’s the status of senate now? aren’t they still open for taking in messages but not for debate? they haven’t completely adjourned have they and are there other mechanisms by-passing mitch to allow them to reconvene?

  9. If Republicans have any sense of self-preservation, they will vote to IMPEACH & REMOVE the tyrant, TRAITOR tRUMPsky. 

    If they do nothing, he destroys what’s left of their party (and possibly our country) in 2024. Get him out of the way AND take away his pension, travel expenses and security detail.

    Even the loathesome Ted Cruz should want to clear the deck for his own 2024 run.

  10. patd, no. The Senate is not in session until 1/19. They don’t conduct business unless they are in session. Only Mitch can call the Senate into session. Do the math. 

  11. pogo, they still are in the business of taking messages even so.

    well, at least get the impeachment done as soon as possible before he pardons himself or anyone else related to the impeachment.   removing the pardon power doesn’t depend on senate trial verdict

  12. BB – I hadn’t even considered that he wanted to take out the line of successors.  Scary stuff and he needs to be removed, immediately.    

  13. What’s to stop him from doing this, and worse, in 2024? IMPEACH and REMOVE the TRAITOR.   It’ll send a message to Ivanker, JarJar and Junior, too.

  14. patd, what reading I’ve done suggests that the Senate would only be open to receiving the Articles of Impeachment when it is in session. Still, the House should proceed with dispatch so it can accept the Articles at the first opportunity. 

  15. bid – If the terrorists had minimal training, arms and munitions they c0uld have wiped out the Congress and the vice president.  Think Designated Survivor type situation except the president is the only one left. That is why this breach of security to allow them on the grounds and in the building is so horrible.  When you look at what the security forces did to intimidate the BLM protestors, who were peaceful, and what they did for the repblican terrorists you see a massive failure to protect the Capitol.  Also, the restrictions on using National Guard and the refusal of SFB to release them is part of the whole of making the attack successful.  Overall this is the 9/11 of this era, but only five were immediately killed.   The republican terrorists are planning to return for the Inauguration.  Hopefully this time the WH and idiot will not be in charge of protection.

  16. BB…  nice Caligula quote.
    It takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict trump.  Last night on MSNBC…  a question was put to Lawrence Tribe if that meant 2/3 of the full Senate…  or 2/3 of those that show up for the vote.
    Tribe said it would be 2/3 of those present in the chamber at the time.  O’Donnell went on to explain that meant that one way for Republicans to say face would be to not be present for the conviction vote.  Then the Democrats and whatever Republicans were on board for conviction…  could remove trump.  Tribe also said it was important that they do this even after trump left office…  because conviction did mean he could never hold Federal office again.

  17. If it’s the mob they fear, those asshats aren’t going away.  IMPEACH & REMOVE!
    Alternate name for their alternate-universe country: Asshatistan

  18. It sounds like tRUMPsky has learned nothing. He’s trying to use the Twitter accounts of others.

  19. Ha!  
    Impeachment would kill his running-for-office campaign grift.  Also, no pension, no travel expenses and no security detail. 

  20. Interesting, upper middleclass sensibilities are starting to kick in
    From Forbes

    Let it be known to the business world: Hire any of Trump’s fellow fabulists above, and Forbes will assume that everything your company or firm talks about is a lie. We’re going to scrutinize, double-check, investigate with the same skepticism we’d approach a Trump tweet. Want to ensure the world’s biggest business media brand approaches you as a potential funnel of disinformation? Then hire away.

  21. dipshit’s only escape is resignation before the House files impeachment articles, and then flight to a non-extradition country, So, by end-of-day, tomorrow.

    He’s vulnerable to criminal charges in Georgia, New York, and D.C., at least

  22. Wow… I would never put myself in the same camp as a long time Harvard professor who teaches Constitutional law.   Thanks, Jack!

  23.  Harvard professor  of constitutional law ? Oh, you mean like Alan Dershowitz?
    I think what has become very obvious this week is that an Ivy league education ain’t what it used to be. 

  24. BB, what worries me is the widespread MSM announcement including his own tweet that D’ump won’t attend the inauguration. you know there are nuts out there this moment planning a kamikaze mission of some sort on the ceremony.

    plenty messages back and forth on social media before FB  twitter took them down declaring a return on jan 17th.

  25. Jack… considering Bannon went to Harvard… and Hawley went to Stanford and Yale….   you’ve got a point.
    ps… my coffee was wicked great this morning!
    pss… I love Kabuki! After all… we are all posting on a blog that was founded on cable news…

  26. Youngest member of Congress, Madison Cawthorn, needs to be expelled from the House, also- i watched him incite violence from dipshit’s stage on Jan. 6

  27. don jr whining about loss of freedom of speech hasn’t said a thing about his daddy’s terrorists assaulting journalists.  see wapo story  describing stuff like:

    Several men grabbed Minchillo by his backpack, pulling him down a flight of stairs. Others grasped the lanyard that identified him as media, dragging him through the throngs that wove flags reading “Don’t Tread on Me” and “TRUMP 2020.” “We’ll f—— kill you!” someone yelled. Then a man shoved him over a ledge.

    and breaking up media equipment as seen in this posted online by bloomberg reporter

  28. schadenfreude, your name is michael 


    (Bloomberg) — Michael Cohen feels vindicated. Two years ago, testifying before a Congressional committee, President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer predicted that if Trump was defeated in 2020, there wouldn’t be a peaceful transfer of power.
    Reached by phone Wednesday, while the mayhem at the Capitol was unfolding, Cohen said everything he testified about two years ago was true.
    He’s still angry about the way he was treated by Republicans, not one of whom asked him any questions about Trump.
    “Shame on each and every Republican who thought it was more important to denigrate me than to heed my warnings,” he said. “And not just one Republican. All of them. They have lost their way and should reconsider running again.”
    Cohen’s message now is simple.
    “I told you so,” he said.

  29. Junior needs to be charged with inciting the insurrection, too.   Are Junior and Irk and Ivanker going to be rolled up in any state charges filed against SFB?

  30. Caption:  IDK  The unpatriotic idiot thinks he won a major award.  Democracy is fra-gi-le. 

  31. Especially suspicious they so quickly got to parliamentarian offices in both chambers hoping to seize electoral college docs. Recall when I was a Senate page sent to fetch something from parliamentarian office, twice had to ask for directions to find it. 

  32. So the dipshit state delegate Evans from WV who participated in the attack on the Capitol resigned, and I suspect he’s lawyered up and is engaged in discussions with the DC federal prosecutors office to try to avoid arrest. 

  33. caption:

    “hey earl, grand cyclops sure gonna love this speechifying stand.  grab that there drape so’s we can purty it up a bit.”

  34. The United States Constitution says that “no Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress” who “shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against” the Constitution, “or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

  35. gonna be some mighty scared blowhards out there who didn’t really mean what they tweeted the other night after slamming a few.

    the hill:

    Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), the likely incoming chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is calling on mobile carriers and social media companies to preserve content and data connected with Wednesday’s pro-Trump riot at the Capitol.
    Warner’s office on Saturday announced that the Senate Democrat sent letters to CEOs of 11 companies, including AT&T, Verizon, Apple, Facebook, Google, Twitter and Parler, telling them to “immediately preserve content and associated meta-data connected to Wednesday’s insurrectionist attack on the United States Capitol.”
    “The United States Capitol is now a crime scene,” Warner wrote in the letter. “The FBI and other law enforcement agencies are currently investigating the events of that day, and trying to piece together what happened and the perpetrators involved. The prospect of litigation on behalf of the victims of the mayhem also is highly likely.”
    Warner told the CEOs, “Messaging data to and from your subscribers that may have participated in, or assisted, those engaged in this insurrection – and associated subscriber information – are critical evidence in helping to bring these rioters to justice.”


  36. No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    • Amdt14.S3.1 Disqualification from Holding Office


    annotation on above:
    The right to remove disabilities imposed by this section was exercised by Congress at different times on behalf of enumerated individuals.1 In 1872, the disabilities were removed, by a blanket act, from all persons except Senators and Representatives of the Thirty-sixth and Thirty-seventh Congresses, officers in the judicial, military and naval service of the United States, heads of departments, and foreign ministers of the United States.2 Twenty-six years later, Congress enacted that the disability imposed by section 3 . . . incurred heretofore, is hereby removed.3

  37. Ironically I’m watching Cagigula on the History channel.  Besides Saying,
    I” don’t care if they respect me, so long as they fear me.”, he liked to embarass and humiliate all the senators. With one ancient Roman Tweet, people died.
    Chilling like all dictators and one, hopefully, we’re getting rid of.  Oh, he had NO loyalty to anyone. He wanted to be an absolute king. SO familiar!

  38. Cruz, Cawthorn, and Giuliani can all be easily construed as providing “aid and comfort”, and observe that the cited Constitutional language requires no formal conviction

  39. patd, it’s been a while, but my recollection is that Congress cannot by passage of an Act alter a provision of the Constitution. 

  40. Any chance there is a digital trail to those on the inside of the attempted coup?  The asshats were just giving cover.  

  41. I’ve signed an online petition for impeachment, but living in TX, I’m not sure that carries as much weight as a speck of dust. 

  42. Especially suspicious how rioters so quickly got to parliamentarian offices in both chambers hoping to seize electoral college docs. Recall when I was a Senate page sent to fetch something from parliamentarian office, twice had to ask for directions to find it.

  43. Unthethered from his news desk Dan Rather has quite the sense of humour:

    Dan Rather


    I heard this Twitter thing wasn’t working for some people. Just came here to check… and it seems to be working for me. Oh well.



  44. In that link, Don. Jr and his wife and Mark Meadows enjoy the riot as “Gloria” by Laura Branigan plays in the background.

  45. In whichever social media platform tRUMPsky and his band of domestic terrorists build their nest, any Feds still on the side of democracy will be able to track them.   

  46. Corey – She is surely rolling in her grave.  Junior needs to be brought up on charges, too.

  47. The guy carrying the zip ties was an Air Force veteran. He has been fired from his airlines job.

  48. This isn’t pretty but the entire city of DC must be shut down from Jan. 17 until Jan. 20 Inaugural. Every bridge and street closed. No human being allowed movement anywhere. Sad but necessary thanks to Donald Trump. 

  49. Impeachment isn’t going to “further divide” our country.  It’s already divided and impeachment might just save it!  Wake the F up, Republicans.  
    If they are still propping up tRUMPsky, they are part of the plot to overthrow our democracy.   

  50. pogo, the kicker in that const. amdmt was the last line:

    But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

  51. Craig

    I have to agree.  It is obvious that if the crowd storming the Capitol had been black, there would have been full body bags from the Capitol to the White House.  Except for residents, all movement should be restricted and the inauguration totally virtual.  The nation needs to cool down.

  52. wsj via msn:

    White House officials pushed Atlanta’s top federal prosecutor to resign before Georgia’s U.S. Senate runoffs because President Trump was upset he wasn’t doing enough to investigate the president’s unproven claims of election fraud, people familiar with the matter said.
    A senior Justice Department official, at the behest of the White House, called Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney Byung J. Pak and told him he needed to step down because he wasn’t pursuing vote-fraud allegations to Mr. Trump’s satisfaction, the people said.
    Mr. Pak resigned abruptly on Monday—the day before the runoffs—saying in an early morning email to colleagues that his departure was due to “unforeseen circumstances.”
    Mr. Pak’s resignation came one day after the public release of the audio of a Jan. 2 call in which Mr. Trump had urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn the November election results….
    The president also complained on the call that Mr. Pak was a “never Trumper.”
    It isn’t known whether the Justice Department official’s call to Mr. Pak took place before or after the Raffensperger recording was made public.

  53. abcnews:

    Biden told reporters Friday that he has “great confidence in the Secret Service” and their ability to make sure the inauguration ”goes off safely.”

    Authorities will have the same military and civilian footprint to handle a crowd of more than a million people for an event expected to draw a small fraction of that because of restrictions to combat the coronavirus, according to a person familiar with the security planning.

  54. CNN: Vice President Pence has not ruled out an effort to invoke the 25th amendment and wants to preserve it as an option in case Trump becomes more unstable, a source close to the VP says.

  55. Impeach him by 0915 EST Monday

    He can still be impeached if he gets 25A’d, so his only option is to resign ASAP

  56. patd, 2 points. First, to get to that final clause Congress would first have to go through the prior clauses and impeach and convict the sonofabitch, and Second, that’s in the amendment, so OK, let’s try it out. 

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