If Nancy Pelosi makes good on her threat to impeach, whither the Senate?Republicans there have reason to convict. If forbidding holding future office is included, Senate Republicans ambitious to run in 2024 would love to join along. And other Republicans eager to prevent Trump’s aim to keep control of the party might also fall in.
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2 theories upon waking:
1. recent cabinet resignations by those who don’t want to face their responsibility under 25th amendment?
2. D’ump going to camp david & pence nowhere to be seen might mean secret service intel believe more violence underway and targeted at more federal buildings, particularly WH to deny joe’s transition?
in any case, most of those maga militias are still lurking in D.C. ready to do more damage.
potted plants unite! you have nothing to lose but your leaves.
the guardian:
not that i would dare to compare sturge’s elizabeth with a potted plant.
gross insult to our leafy friends
Camp David is also a way to keep him out of sight. Is he being sedated? Is Pence already in charge?
Congress should not be afraid to use the 25th, nor Impeachment and removal, if the action of the tRUMPsky’s mob is their fear. That will happen unless they allow SFB to stay forever and that’s not going to happen.
What tRUMPsky has formed around his sick personality is the chicken-fried Taliban at its worst.
“Have fun stormin’the castle, boys.” -The Princess Bride
Elizabeth should now imagine being a peaceful protestor, standing across the street and still getting maced because she’s black. That is, of course, impossible.
He incited the most disturbing riot of my lifetime- impeach on principle, actions have consequences
i’ll venture that every single invader of the Capitol was a victim of child-abuse, in some form- that’s the core American problem
Pence had been planning on leaving immediately after he did his Constitutional duty and announced the count. And, it seems he has at least cut the phone line, Speaker Pelosi got a busy signal when she called him. I am guessing he has decided to wash his hands of the whole thing and go on vacation.
Pence did his duty
Junior should be indicted for sedition, too. He was at the rally, fomenting violence.
Elizabeth from Knoxville admitted she stepped foot inside the Capitol for the purpose of a revolution. On tape. Idiot. A terrible public education system is also to blame, as well as preachers who spoon-feed ideology rather than inspiring personal insight into one’s spirit.
If he can’t run for office, he can’t scam folks for money.
A message from our future plant overlords
“Pence did his duty”
bink, he still has more to do. i would think that he would not continue with his overseas travel plans given at any second he may have to act as president for the remaining 12 days..
most likely he has been squirreled away by security and is heavily protected but incommunicado
Today could bring news of one of three events
Pence & cabinet call for 45.
Pelosi brings impeachment to the floor
Trump resigns in exchange for some sort of pardon
It is Friday and all of the above may hope the weekend will cool the need for immediate action but some form of international event could make the above blow up in our faces before the inauguration.
He really has to go today to put somebody with capacity to make decisions in place immediately.
“some form of international event could make the above blow up in our faces”
jamie, very likely that and another domestic terror incident
wash. examiner:
wapo via msn:
any word about our trail friends X-R and flatus?
Patd
I’m getting concerned. Hope we get some news soon.
So there were multiple accounts yesterday on social media dedicated to naming the (nope can’t say protestors) — idiot terrorists. And it looks as though they’ve been shut down.
And of course the differences are VAST but wow, after spending a summer watching and being told at protests to cover tattoos, wear inconspicuous clothing and most importantly — Keep your face mask on. Namely because of covid but also to not be recognizable. Horns and Holocaust Merch! Elizabeth has that vibe that the “revolution” is a theme park attraction and she’d waited in line for five minutes.
On a personal note, as someone who is Jewish — concerning the first identified Brooklyn Jew of the bunch — Could he not read the room?
(They don’t like you.)
Wonderful week for the Dumbass administration:
1. President urged idoitic supporters to go to the Capitol, where for the first time in 206 years the security of the Capitol was breached by invaders (Thee have been other attacks, but they were shootings and bomb plantings that did not result from a breach of the Capitol security personnel);
2. Jobs report shows the economy lost 140,000 jobs in December
3. New single day record of 4027 deaths set in Covid-19 pandemic
4. 2 cabinet secretaries and former chief of staff (now Scottish ambassador) resigned
5. Joe Biden’s electoral victory confirmed by VP Pence and US Congress
6. Speaker of House threatens impeachment (2nd) if VP and Cabinet do not invoke 25th Amendment
7. British PM decries Dumbass’ invocation of violence
…
Pelosi is talking about a vote next week. Why wait?
Dominion sues Sidney Powell for defamation, seeking $1.3 billion in damages
Good for them!
Craig… why wait indeed. If Pelosi needs to get her ducks in a row… I’ll give her the weekend. If she doesn’t do something by Monday… I’m with Jack.
OTOH… there were still some trump signs around this town. Yesterday… most of them were taken down.
Isn’t Trump pardoning himself an admission he violated oath to preserve and protect the law.
Dominion should sue!
You watch, nuttin will be done about trump!
They’ll never get to the bottom of the lack of police at the capitol.
You knew Randy had to do it!!
There is not going to be an impeachment
3 people were killed and no person of importance is going to pay. Like always Trump is going to waltz away from his mess.
This is one they could quick step easily if they have the f**king guts but they don’t.
Jack
Jesus, Pence kept Pelosi on hold yesterday for a half an hour and then hung up on her. What more does she need to get moving.
Jack
Texas Tribune with message to Ted Cruz
Pelosi telling members to get back to DC Monday. Game on.
Maga Hatters…
Next Monday is too late, All we are going to get is talk. They should have been voting today.
Situation normal
Jack
renee, shouldn’t that read “mega haters”?
MAGA nut sites I follow are wild with calls for another DC rally Jan. 19
Thanks Jamie for Randy Rainbow. I’ll be politically active here as soon as it’s not deadly & will work to get rid of Cruz, Abbott, et. al.
There should be a boycott of all Faux News and NoiseMax sponsors. They are responsible, too. Yep, you’re part of the terrorist propaganda machine, pillow dude.
The Plague Year. You can listen to it. It’s long, like a book. The history of Covid. He talks about events that I wondered about but never knew the inside story like the doc who committed suicide, Birx info, etc. Of course Texas is mentioned a few times and not in a good way when it comes to this or anything, actually.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/biden-vaccine-strategy/index.html
Biden will get the vaccine rollout going. Why is SFB holding back? Idiot, loser, traitor, murderer.
OK here is the deal, the Senate is in recess until the 19 and under Senate rules the only way to change that is for every Senator to agree to the change.
BTW all of the Democrats signed on to this. It was get out of town quick before we have to do our job and do something besides bloviate.
So impeachment is off the table, except for a meaningless exercise in Kabuki theater. You just got to hope that somebody keeps Trump entertained so he doesn’t decide to nuke the world.
Jack
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/melania-trump-white-house-capitol-riot/index.html
Melania wants to write a coffee table book about stuff in the WH. Ummm, that’s not her, personal stuff. All proceeds should go to the American people.
ps – You’re not getting your security deposit back, either.
Call them back to DC. If they don’t show up, they are siding with the terrorists and violating their oath. The no-shows should then be unseated.
So bobble-head did not blow town, he showed up at the WH and was let in. Reported by Jim Acosta. That must be one awkward kiss and make up meeting going on.
I had seen some calls for a redo by MAGAts on the 19th. The Maryland guard is still in the district, so the crazies might think twice about being shot. I’m terrified that something might be in the works to assassinate Biden/Harris/Pelosi/Schumer/Blinken/Yellen/Austin
They might want to consider a Designator Survivor.
Joe Biden’s Cabinet
Order of Succession to the President
Jack, constitution requires Senate to bypass all rules including recess to take up impeachment
Thinking about anything else. David Bowie birthday. Here singing an old classic “Wild Is The Wind”. If you haven’t seen the movie, hunt for it.
This might be interesting. Can a Supreme Court judge be impeached because of his wife’s actions?
Craig
First it has to be delivered, that can’t happen until the 19th. officially there is nobody home until then.
Jack
jack, it doesn’t take the senate to accomplish tagging D’ump as the only prez ever impeached twice. the senate just decides whether or not the house’s impeachment deserves acquittal from or applying a penalty such as kicking him out the door, locking and slamming it as he goes out.
if it gets out of the house by next week which it could quite easily, that’s sufficient for the history books. a few more days later he’s bait for the prosecutors anyway and juries can decide what punishment he deserves.
IMpotus redux
Pat
If you want to do the Kabuki dance……
Jack
What’s wrong with Kabuki theater? We can’t go to the movies.
The threat of impeachment keeps dipshit in his lane, jack, lest he lose post-presidential perks and immunity- he is still sending out dog-whistles, i just read one he posted, today
Hey… if you’re not into Kabuki theater… you can’t be a real political junkie. After all… politics… Kabuki is thy middle name.
Besides… this all ends very shortly…. maybe…
with regard to inaugural plans
from OPB:
talk about kabuki-ing, what else is the whole inaugural shindig but a big show.?
OK, some mood music then so you all can dance.
Rocking the Shamisen … Not bad at all particularly considering they only have three strings available.
thanks jack, loved the music – those gals got rhythm, who could ask for anything more
Thinking of pulling out my dogeared copy of Shogun. That might be long enough to get through the next 12 days.
I found my wordpad program .
Working on my railroad proposal it looks pretty spiffy so far.
Again , thanks for letting me write on the napkins here.
Trying to follow Dylan’s advice –
“He not busy being born……………… Is busy dying”
Yaaaaaaaaaa! UPS finally delivered what I bought with some of my stimulus money… an oxo coffee maker. Gonna brew some wicked awesome coffee tomorrow morning!
Can they impeach and convict AFTER he leaves office, if the process were started before he does?🤔
RR-
On behalf of the readership here , I am sure that coffee in NH smells a lot better than anywhere else in the Cosmos .
My Colorado radio guy wants to walk down memory lane , not the future . I suspect he only has 3 Aces in his deck. I did pull one nugget for him.
When I got to Salida , the DRG&W was still changing freight crews at Salida. A beer at the Office Bar was 25 cents for a mug . You could walk into the Office at 11:15 AM and be troughly drunk at 1:39 PM , and have never spent a penny.
Spoke to a coworker on the phone and they feel sorry for the terrorists. They pointed out that they can’t just blame SFB when both parties have let the terrorists down for 40 years. I do not feel sorry for them and SFB should shut his pie-hole.
This isn’t about poor, white folks being left behind. A TX attorney has been fired for taking part in the attack. An elected official from another state is being charged, as well. Nope.
Sturg, it’s ok to pass on Saturday posts, I’d rather not spend my Friday nights waiting for them, especially since I have no way to contact you by email.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/west-virginia-state-legislature-charged-capitol-riot/index.html
It’s not poor, forgotten whites who were the terrorists attacking the Capitol, it was racist jerks like this guy. It was racist jerks like the attorney from TX who got canned.
The idiots filmed themselves. The arrogance of SFB rubbed off on them.
I had some replies to all y’all, but I had to log in, again. Don’t remember what.
The good news is that the maga rioters are being doxed online! YES! And they’re being fired from their day jobs as should happen.
maga’s are confused. They’re happy they stormed the capitol, but it’s not them who did it. It was antifa dressed like them! F’ed up or confused.
I remember, yes, can he be impeached after he’s gone?
A test to see if this works –
The Aakansas and Tennessee Rail Road
A proprosal to run solar, gravity, and human powered tourist carts on the old DRG&W line over Tennessee Pass, Colorado.
This proposal is based on several tested business models the Rafting Industry . And that industry runs on gravity.
And more importantly , the makers of these machines Rail Explores they are currently operating 3 lines all over the country.
This proposal is based on the line from Minturn to Canon City, roughly 150 miles. That in turn is broken up into sections , just like the rail road.
Tennessee Pass 10,424 ft dawn May 15th.
Each station opens at 6 AM , and every 5 mins we load another car.
This is the greatest drop, in 4 hours 30 miles. I can load one every 5 mins. Until 11 AM.
At Noon the Long Haulers take off .
This ride is 150 miles with power and cover and takes days. And it’s all down hill. And is powered by gravity and sunlight. With zero sound @ 5 or 7 mph.
Then there is the fishing service we drop you and your guide off , and pick you up at the end of the day.
Meanwhile , at Buena Vista the Browns Conyon cars are loading for their run to Salida.
When the morning cars reach their noon stop, we load em’ up again and the electric motor and batteries runs back up the hill . This is done by using the electric motor as a break going down hill to recharge the battery pack , and a canopy over the riders with solar panels on top.
This line was abandoned in 1997 .
This proposal is about designing a plan that puts it back to work, in a way that puts the most people to work , in the cleanest way , at the lowest cost.
It covers very town from Pueblo to Eagle. As economic delevelope effort, it has the cleanest foot print we will see in future.
This entire matter is now in flux.
3 elephants fighting over 167 miles of prime river front land through the “Heart of the Rockies”
All three want run trains as we know them.
Tank Cars in the Royal Gorge.
I would urge the cities and counties of the upper Arkansas River Valley to band together .
And get their seat at the table.
“When elephants fight , only the grass suffers”
Colorado Bob
salidabob49@gmail.com
Cool
The graphics don’t carry but the text does , That’s my huckleberry .
Now the grind of finding 167 miles of dog catcher emails.
Joe Biden lowered the boom today on traitors Cruz and Hawley. Interesting.
But he shouldn’t talk about the bombing of Dresden . He screwed that pooch , good thing no one on the right has ever heard about the fire bombing of that city.
Headline of the Day _
Twitter Cuts Trumps Nuts
Banned for life.
This is a silver stake .
Trump is a crime boss caught and done.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/08/ted-cruz-joe-biden-texas-voters/
Yes, Joe, Ted needs to be voted out. Actually, I was hoping a charge of sedition for attempting to overthrow the election could toss him sooner. Scum.
The terrorists are being fired, but they will get unemployment for awhile. They shouldn’t get the extra, Federal $300. No stimulus check for you, either.
Well the dumpster fire finally burnt down the business .
The GOP Fire Sale doesn’t have a lot of assets.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/mike-lee-tommy-tuberville-trump-misdialed-capitol-riot/index.html
Despicable. He wasn’t fiddling while it burned, he and Rudee were trying to call Tuberville.
The people that stormed the Capital are not terrorists , they are fools.
And a fool lives his life in fear . From there they become a ready dog in a pack.
They wanted to be a part of something big. They could’ve built a house for Habitat fit Humanity or something constructive.
Is there any call to boycott ALL sponsors on Faux and NoiseMax?
https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/ex-mayoral-candidate-brags-about-breaking-into-pelosis-office/
Another gem from TX, bragging about being a domestic terrorist.
Glad I saved this .
We’ll get through this , America is a lot bigger than Dallas. And nothing in the human experience is bigger than Dallas.
This entire affair will kill Trump , the fiction is shattered his power is broken .
As a Greek play it is text book .
Que the New York AG’s. To chew his bones.
Did anyone else see the video of Trumpsters harassing Lindsay Graham at the airport today? Those people are a special kind of scary.
Albert Einstein Quotes
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Cory –
Nazi 101
To question is to die , dogma must be enforced . This is why they eat their elders.
Picking over the ashes of the Zeppelin crash ………………… A Gas Bang Exploded neering the mooring mast .
Why impeach him again ?
If this one turns in a conviction , he can never run again. As for doing after he leaves , the law is mute.
There is no time limit on impeach in law.
Don’t let this Trump drama distract you from the insidious kidnapping plot on Charlie’s Angels this morning. Luckily, the man here was protected by 3 angels.
At his core he is a coward. This will kill him he has no place to go.
“Good Evening , I’m Chevy Chase , and you are not ………….
Tonight’s top story Francisco Franco is still dead”
Trump is not the Shah of Iran.
He is the hottest living potato in the history of the world.
He cannot flee anywhere now. If he get’s on a ship to sail the oceans Joe Biden will send the USS Ronald Reagan after him.
on newshour tonight:
Judy Woodruff:
[…]
We know that Speaker Pelosi has said that, if Vice President Pence and the Cabinet don’t move to invoke the 25th Amendment, then impeachment could take place. Do you believe it will happen next week?
Rep. James Clyburn:
Well, I certainly hope so.
We have been talking to members, and there’s strong sentiment, and I might say bipartisan sentiment, for impeaching this president. The fact of the matter is, impeachment will give us a tool, not just for removal, but it will be a tool for protecting the integrity of our democracy. This president needs the scrutiny that impeachment will give him.
[…]
Judy Woodruff:
[…]
I want to ask you. The president’s only in office about another 11 days. What does it accomplish? I hear you saying it would affect whether he could run again, serve again.
But might you — might this end up encouraging the people who already support the president to be even more fiercely supportive if they think Democrats are trying to take him down?
James Clyburn:
Well, Judy, I don’t believe we ought to run the country that way.
I think there are certain norms that we have to adhere to. I think there are certain laws that we have to obey. And we just cannot say, because it may have some political consequences, let’s not do it.
That is not the way to run the country. I think we ought to do what we think needs to be done in order to protect the integrity of this democracy. And one of those, I believe, right now is to impeach this president.
Now, there’s something interesting about impeachment. The more I read this stuff, the more things open up to me. One of them is this. When you are issuing pardons, I understand the president’s got all kinds of authority to issue a pardon.
But if you read down, it says, one of the exceptions he doesn’t have is in cases of impeachment. Now he’s talking about pardoning himself. So, if he’s attempting to pardon himself, and he’s impeached, that might answer the question for us as to whether or not he can pardon himself.
So, there are a lot of things we need to take a look at in order to determine what we need to do to protect this — the integrity of this democracy. Already, Nancy Pelosi has been talking to the military leaders about what may or may not need to be done to keep us from getting enthralled in some kind of international conflict.
This president has demonstrated time and time again had that he no respect for the dignity of that office. He will do anything he thinks is necessary in order to protect himself, including taking this country to war. That, to me, is worth us getting involved.
Judy Woodruff:
And you believe it’s worth going ahead with impeachment in the House, which would be a second time, even though the votes are not there in the Senate to convict?
James Clyburn:
Absolutely.
It didn’t say, is he convicted of impeachment? It said, to be impeached. The House impeaches. The Senate convicts. So, if I just take the reading, it just says impeachment. And so I think it’s worth doing.
[continues]
He holds the keys even now , if he would just admit this was all to get more tourists to his hotels.
Cruz is betting on reeling in tRUMPsky’s base if SFB is ousted and can’t run in 2024.
His pitch will be that he never turned on SFB.
He needs to go away, too.
There is finally a second season of “Dickinson.” I need a brief diversion from news.
Too funny!
Patd
Ford pardoned Nixon, after his first VP, …………… because he was fond of bribes. The GOP has morphed into continuing criminal enterprise of grifters stealing from everyone they can con.
Take the Kock boys , one funds NOVA they both steal the future blind.
A failed DJ comes along and shows that nursing petting slights, can make you a Millionaire on AM Radio. Never mind the end game, just bank the money.
Running 85 mph down the I-95 nose to tail
This was us , the virus has given us all a lot of flat tires.
ALIVE
“My wife and I sleep in different rooms,” he said.
I said, “Yeah, I know what ya mean; my wife and I sleep in different states.”
Angry blood and bile is all he gave us at the end. A perfect end to a game show. Toon in next season , we’ll toss a real living virgin in volcano !
Your subscription Fee is going up by $5 bucks.
Trump is a wounded animal, alone and cornered in the White House .
This is why I never read fiction.
0………read gore Vidal as soon as you can.
Strug –
Now that’s a debate two gay men fighting on TV. Long ago , over what we are .
A very old debate.
The list of “undesirables” through time always floated around ,
I remember that time I went down to the revolution and felt kinda left out.
If we hunt him down like a dog.
His rabid pack will foam more .
If we let him go
The next dog is in the wings.
Strug –
I joined the sexual revolution . As well as many others.
I was overjoyed to learn a lot of women had enlisted as well.
The Next Dog,
a play in 3 acts by bob and dick
The Next Dog.
Hahaha sexual revolution…
Sturg –
I served in Moromdy at that time.
Behind the Mormon Curtain.
One thing is sure , women are about to take over the running of the nation.
Right Here Right Now.
“I was alive and I waited for this , watching the world wake up from history”
Right now right here there is no other place I want to be.
This is not a time of despair .
Science is pulling hundreds of rabbits out of it’s hats everyday.
The Great Lesson of this plague , …………….. we need each other more than we ever dreamed.
That lesson has been on a endless loop, since the first mammoth hunt .
One does not take a cave from a bear without help.
Hell is still coming to breakfast , if we think we’ll meet it alone , we are lost . Only with us sitting down over a meal will we solve this.
That’s a great idea , America’s chef’s invite their town’s foes to dinner once a week.
We are down to an empty band-aid box to solve our wounded civic life. A 3rd party with wine and food, just might be the salve our wounds need . Anything to break the bleeding.
My God , at the very end of my life , in the middle of a plague , ….. I have turned into a fucking optimist.
Evil is not that strong , punch it in the face. It fades away.
Punching early enough is the problem .
I am really sick of singers singing sweet sappy songs , or rappers chanting things I cannot hear.
That is why I love Miss Fish , and Del so much.
No amount of money can buy away that feeling we all know.
And that has no price.
We are about to open the Buddy Holly Hall of performing arts here .
When he hit with “That’ll Be The Day” . his town saw him as that nigger loving , motorcycle ridin’ poor white trash. That lasted for nearly 25 years.
There is a mosaic on the building made of guitar picks. Each one engraved with the buyers name. 3 years ago my little sister gave me the title to one pick engraved …… Colorado Bob.
I was passing out picks on Buddy’s grave long before they turned a spade.
On Buddy Holly Ave.
A black and gold pick .
Lubbock High school colors …….. Black and Gold.
A gold tornado on one side , and “I picked Peggy’s Garden” on the other.
I made ear rings out of them. I sold nearly a 1,000 at a dollar each. I paid 17 cents for every pick. I used the money to fund Peggy’s Garden.
Now it is all gone. But the pick fund rising idea goes on. That is why my little sister bought me a pick on the wall under Colorado Bob.
And she paid a lot more than a buck for her pick.
I never took this idea to the Buddy Holly Center as a fund raising effort.
The whole –
Can be replaced with what ever they want on the front , and the GPS of their location, and his grave.
That GPS to Buddy’s grave on a guitar pick is a very big deal. That pick will sell hand over fist.
“That’ll Be The Day” on the face , and the GPS locations on the back . In a giant fish bowl of picks some read “Peggy Sue” , others a Fender Strat with “Rave On” below.
Each one is sold for a buck , but as the volume of this increases the cost drops per unit. You buy enough picks, they are 10 cents each.
And that boys and girls is how to turn a dime into a dollar.
A dime into dollar,…………. please note I was/ am raising funds for music , and our greater good.
I will set about looking for my pick tomorrow, on the Buddy Holly building.
I took my CDL test where this building is now.
Lubbock has given up the idea that Buddy was a traitor to his race. He is now an economic draft horse. Hauling the entire downtown into rebirth.
His Hall is pretty dam big we’re going to need to sell a lot of picks.
Lubbock is a small LA . It’s not the rest of Texas.
More picks , ………… we have the largest collection of wind mills in the world. Another fish bowl .
The wind mill site sucks. It was designed by young fools. It is about how slick they are , and never touches how cool this collection is.
Some words of wisdom I have been told –
“Never let your little head , do your big heads thinking”
“Shit in one hand etc. etc. etc. ”
“Keep her between the ditches”
Craig publish a book of one line wisdom , as told to you over 16 years right here. It’ll make your day .
You have a gold mine of really bright gibberish at your finger tips.
The world has me by the throat
I run from it to save myself
To where and why
I have no clue
Broke Down South of Dallas
You’re wanted by the Police , and my wife thinks yer dead.
That’s Jr’s wife playing next to him.
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