149 thoughts on “2021 What’s In What’s Out”

  1. wapo:

    Jan. 7, 2021 at 4:23 a.m. EST

    Members of Congress, shaken and angry following a violent assault on the U.S. Capitol by a mob of President Trump’s supporters, put a final stamp on President-elect Joe Biden’s victory early Thursday morning and brought an end to a historically turbulent post-election period.
    Republicans had at one point planned to object to the electoral college votes in a series of states won by Biden, but after the storming of the Capitol, several GOP senators changed course, disputing only Arizona and Pennsylvania. Both challenges failed.
    Shortly after Congress affirmed Biden’s win, Trump pledged an “an orderly transition.” The statement, tweeted by White House social media director Dan Scavino as Trump remained locked out of his own Twitter account, stops short of conceding or congratulating Biden.
    “Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th,” Trump said, noting that Congress’s action “represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history.”
    In the final moments of the joint session, Senate Chaplain Barry C. Black said a prayer lamenting “the desecration of the United States Capitol building, the shedding of innocent blood, the loss of life and the quagmire of dysfunction that threaten our democracy,”….

    [continues]

    so it goes and so we go forth

  2. All of the prominent rioters from yesterday are being identified: horns-guy (from Arizona) is a frequent pro-trump protester, feet-on-desk guy (from Arkansas) is also a staple on the trump-rally circuit, just like Rittenhouse was. Still waiting on the ID of grey-hoodie guy (the ringleader), but i’ll bet doughnuts to dollars he has a criminal record.

    This isn’t a popular ground-swell, it’s the same old cast of unemployed characters that follow around trump like hippies used to follow the Grateful Dead.  

  3. Drooling Marius, he’s lost his mind; as if he ever had one which wasn’t burned by hate. But now he’s standing on the marble steps—drooling out his venomous hate upon everyone around him.

  4. Bink

    Liberals don’t gloat.  They fix things.  The Trump Traitors just tear things down and make matters worse.

     

  5. If he’s smart, he’s on a private plane to Dubai, or wherever, before the end of the day

  6. BryceTache
    In the span of 24 hours Black Americans voted to save our democracy and a white violent mob tried to destroy it.

  7. I must admit that I don’t mind a good gloat when  offered the slightest excuse.    There have been so few compared to the rhetorical right wing shit I’ve been relentlessly subjected to.

  8. Departments and agencies have reacted, some managers with very heartfelt messages.  Departments and agencies in D.C. have closed entrances and gone to only those absolutely necessary go in to the offices.  I wonder what is expected today downtown?

  9. pogo, i have a question for you as our recognized trail counsel of all things governmental.   If the 25th amendment is successfully invoked on the basis of D’ump’s mental incapacity to continue presidency, would this give him an out  (grounds for defense) for the sure-to-come indictments both federal and state?

     

    “couldn’t help myself, i’m certifiably (by cabinet) insane”

  10. if 25th isn’t invoked then i foresee a deal much like nixon’s with a pence pardon swapped for a resignation in addition to help (looking the other way or enabling) in a flight to a country free from extradition so that D’ump evades all prosecutions.

  11. I won’t speak for liberals but as a Democrat I’ll gloat over the fact that despite being DIRECTED by the president of the United States to go to the Capitol, DIRECTED  to engage in trial by combat by the president’s private attorney and told that “we’re coming to get you “ by the president’s son, a group of right wing supporters of Donald J Trump rioted and breached the Capitol’s security in an attempt to prevent Congress from performing its constitutional duty to confirm the electoral count of the states and complete the constitutional process of confirming Joseph Biden and Kamala Harris as next president and Vice President of the United States, only to be cleared from the Capitol forced from the area 7 hours later, and ultimately accomplished only delaying the process for 5 hours despite a chaotic and insufficient response by Capitol Police, during which time Democratic control of the Senate was confirmed in the results of the Georgia Senate runoff elections. Liberals can gloat if they want – Democrats have every right to gloat. 

  12. patd, I’m sure he’d raise that as a defense, but incapacity to perform the job is not the same as insanity. 

  13. Unless impeached and convicted, the Traitor in Chief will receive the full benefits of any former President upon leaving office.  

    Pension

    The Secretary of the Treasury pays a taxable pension to the president. Former presidents receive a pension equal to the pay that the head of an executive department (Executive Level I) would be paid; as of 2020, it is $219,200 per year.

    Transition

    Transition funding for the expenses of leaving office is available for seven months. It covers office space, staff compensation, communications services, and printing and postage associated with the transition.

    Staff and office

    Medical insurance

    Secret Service protection

  14. another headline of note today

    kansas city star editorial:

    Assault on democracy: Sen. Josh Hawley has blood on his hands in Capitol coup attempt

    No one other than President Donald Trump himself is more responsible for Wednesday’s coup attempt at the U.S. Capitol than one Joshua David Hawley, the 41-year-old junior senator from Missouri, who put out a fundraising appeal while the siege was underway.

    This, Sen. Hawley, is what law-breaking and destruction look like. This is not a protest, but a riot. One woman who was apparently part of the pro-Trump mob was fatally shot by Capitol Police as lawmakers took cover. Some of those whose actions Trump encouraged and later condoned brought along their Confederate flags.

    And no longer can it be asked, as George Will did recently of Hawley, “Has there ever been such a high ratio of ambition to accomplishment?” Hawley’s actions in the last week had such impact that he deserves an impressive share of the blame for the blood that’s been shed.

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  15. Scarborough Says Jail Trump TODAY, Goes OFF on Capitol Police for Insurrection Response: ‘You Opened the F*CKING DOOR for Them!’
    I can’t stand Joe and Mika but wholeheartedly agree. I’m so angry. I’m ashamed of this country for going along with Trump’s scam. Bigger, we took all of it back. Democrats again have to clean up the worst mess ever.

  16. Rejoicing over McConnell’s lost Majority Leadership the day after the Capitol was overthrown by goons is a hollow boast, Pogo.  The only reason you still have a government is because trump supporters are morons.  If yesterday was more coordinated we’d all be wringing our hands right now.  Spare me the false bravado

  17. You know, fellows, we’ve talked about this problem a hundred times,” Bayh recounted, telling his aides when they were in the final stages of negotiation. “The only time it would present itself – the only time the president would say ‘I’m well and able’ and the vice president and cabinet would disagree – would be if the president was as nutty as a fruit cake.”

    Late Senator Birch Bayh:  “One Heartbeat Away: Presidential Disability and Succession”

     

  18. Hopefully…….the capitol’s being overthrown by goons was temporary and thanks to their being goons, largely ineffective……but the Mitch loss was real,, true, and to the bone.   Also the goons showed their hand, which they then grossly over played, thereby drawing down the entire national focus upon themselves…..ie….disinfectant sunlight.   Plus they have turned the gop into the kind of stuff a pig wouldn’t eat.  

  19. Debbie Stabenow is suggesting the Senate take up a motion to reconsider impeachment. Might be the quickest cleanest way to get rid of him. Force Republican senators into a box

  20. Come on get real, nobody is going to remove Trump. Just like nobody got arrested for the shit yesterday. If that shit had happened in my neighborhood there would be dead rioters all over the place.
    Jack

  21. Jack…  I agree that trump won’t be removed.  But someone on MSNBC yesterday said if trump were impeached a second time, it would mean he could never run for any federal office again.  I’ll take that.

  22. Good for Mitt, again. Lindsay certainly was animated, wasn’t he?
     
    Finally, folks are asking where were the police? I’m  still wonder where were the fighter jets during 9/11?
     
    I hope TRUMP is made to PAY for repairs for the damage done to the capitol building. Take it out of his salary.
     
    I hope he does not receive retirement/pension money, ever.

  23. The president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, which represents employees at 17 airlines, said the pro-Trump protesters should be banned from the commercial flights leaving Washington.

    “The mob mentality behavior that took place on several flights to the D.C. area yesterday was unacceptable and threatened the safety and security of every single person on board,” said AFA-CWA president Sara Nelson. “Their violent and seditious actions at the Capitol today create further concern about their departure from the D.C. area. Acts against our democracy, our government and the freedom we claim as Americans must disqualify these individuals from the freedom of flight.”

  24. hey guys, they’re still there (excluding the 52 arrested) and still up to mischief.  reporter just reported seeing a bunch at his hotel comfortably smoking their cigars and ready for what’s coming next.   can’t imagine all hundreds of the more  violent protestors just up and left.

  25. RR, i don’t think who said that is correct. Pretty sure only a Senate conviction prevents future office, and not even then is it automatic, Senate has to specifically include that in the conviction language

  26. A reminder of this Trump tweet, 6 days before Christmas: “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!” He told us. Law enforcement was warned.

  27. A terrorist leader commanding a standing army (of high-school drop-outs).  

    Impeach and Convict, today.

  28. bink, it’s not “hollow” boasting when it comes to acknowledging what georgia voters accomplished.  we should be celebrating the diversity of their efforts.  just as biden wouldn’t have won without the significant  support of people of color voting for him in the GA general election and ossoff in the runoff, Warnock wouldn’t have won without a major turnout for him of white voters.  it’s a new day in old dixie and it should be   applauded.

  29. Notice that there was little said about Russian, outside influence,  in this election? The division in this country came from inside.  I think  Jim Watkins is an embedded, Russian asset/agent just like U.S. Navy Lieutenant Commander Tom Farrell in the 1987 film, “No Way Out” ( a good movie) and “The Americans” tv series.  Jim Watkins is an American businessman and the operator of the imagebiard website 8chan and textboard website 2channel.  (Wiki)  He maybe Q of qanon, the conspiracy web sites that trump follows and gets his conspiracy theory information from. There maybe others also. Oh, I’m sure the FBI is on his case, oh yeah.
     

  30. craig, from Article I, Section 3:

    Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

    i would think the 1st part is automatic and what follows the “but” is discretionary for congress to ask for and pursue.

  31. There were no police, no protection for the capitol because trump told them to stand down and stand back. If not him, then who? We all knew this was coming.  Someone(s)  allowed this to happen.  Will we ever know who was responsible? Nah, I don’t think so. If anyone(s) is called out, it’ll be some low level person. 

  32. tiptoe, as to the russians, whether or not they were there in person, they sure as hell were there in spirit.

  33. This event left me drained yesterday.  I’m drained today too. Now it’s time for me to stop with this for now.

  34. Bink, give me a break, who doesn’t “gloat” over flipping the Senate to Dem when a Dem president is coming into office?  Same would go for Repubs.  Hell they were gloating and crowing in November over picking up 11 seats in the House even though it is still Dem controlled and they lost the WH.  

  35. I think Bink has a point. Gloating is just empty tribalism. Just cheering in the bleachers when you didn’t run one wind sprint or sacrifice your time or effort as the players on the court did.. 
    Me, I’m amazed at what happened in  Georgia. They elected a black man and a Jew either would have been unthinkable in the year I was born. As we look at the mess from yesterday we need to keep the Georgia election on our mind. We are a better people than we used to be but we have a long way to go and we need to work on it.
    Jack

  36. SCHUMER calls for immediate impeachment and removal of the president.
    “This president should not hold office one day longer.”

    He asks for Pence to invoke the 25th amendment and say, short of that, Congress should impeach and remove.

  37. until Jan 20th, Schumer is just hot air. He has no power.
    The impeachment ball is in Pelosi’s court. Get a quote from her and I will listen.
    Jack

  38. The only reason you still have a government is because trump supporters are morons.  If yesterday was more coordinated we’d all be wringing our hands right now.  

    I disagree.  The reason we still have a government is that despite woefully inadequate planning and a pitiful response by Capitol Security, the MOCs were protected and the Capitol secured.  By 6:00 last night there were sufficient police and troops to handle the rabble even if they had not been morons.  This might be a different conversation had there been real planning on the side of the rabble, focused on the MOCs, but they were a product of their leader, acting viscerally and hoping for the best.  Don’t expect such a haphazard response over the next 2 weeks should the morons try something else, an don’t expect that the FBI isn’t monitoring what’s going on and planning accordingly.

  39. Under the “Capital police are better at harassing tourist than protecting the capital” columnMy tweet of the day.
    Jack

  40. The Scavino tweet of supposed Trump statement was obviously not written by Trump

    “Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our…

    …fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it’s only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!”

     

  41. @davidcicilline
    NEW: I am circulating Articles of Impeachment that @RepTedLieu, @RepRaskin and I have prepared to remove the President from office following yesterday’s attack on the U.S. Capitol.
    https://t.co/b92GL9Ap33

  42. One bit of joy.  My great grandson Torin who daily lives up to the meaning of his name (chief or fighter) turned two yesterday.  He was a six month preemie and has required several surgeries.  He still requires a throat implant for various feeding and medical reason.  Fortunately, now healthy and as you can see there is obviously someone definitely at home. lol

     

  43. How do we garnish his prez’ l retirement wages?  You know, to pay for damage to the Capitol building, at least. 

  44. Best meme I’ve seen is jack’s pic of the horned idiot and his fellow MagaTs with the caption:  “Worst production of Les Mis, ever.”

  45. If the morons have to be ferreted from their hiding holes, be prepared for bloody standoffs.   

  46. Matt Gaetz is on the House floor now blaming antifa for the riots on the Capitol, to applause. Just in case there was question about today fundamentally changing things for House Republicans.

  47. Faux Spews is up to its eyeballs in whataboutism

    “Yes the rioters should be arrested and jailed but what about Kamala Harris helping to raise bail money for the BLM marchers” 

     

  48. lol @ Gaetz et al. suggesting the rioters were “antifa”, as if we all don’t recognize trumpistanis when we see them, by now
     
    beard, carhartt jacket, shitty tennis shoes, beer gut, gas-station Aviator sunglasses, AR-15…

  49. Empty talk, If she was serious she would be calling for a vote this afternoon. I’m getting tired of the empty talk.
    Jack

  50. hope some of you caught the announcement and speeches by biden, merrick garland, lisa monaco and the other new doj leaders.  really good to hear them stress DOJ independence.

    among other good words & goals hinting what lies store in the future were many times the mention of “domestic terrorism”

  51. MSNBC and CNN reports Pelosi in a call with Pence and Pompeo said she wanted an answer on 25th Amendment today or House will move forward on impeachment, articles already written. She told reporters it could go straight to the floor without committee hearings.

  52. alexandra petri more serious than usual:

    […]
    But you must understand: They were upset.
    How couldn’t they be? Trump’s long-ago boast that “when you’re a star, they let you do it” has dangled over everything that followed. His presidency has been a harrowing survey of the things that are possible if nobody stops you. The norms he eroded, from his unreleased tax returns to his insults to his firings by tweet, his phone calls, his impeachable offenses — it is amazing, after all, what you can do, if no one bothers to get in your way. And now, here was democracy, standing athwart the will of Trump and his people.
    So when Trump urged these disciples to march on Congress, they did.
    […]
    He has been dividing the country into us and them for as long as he has been in public. For them, a full-page ad calling for the death penalty. For us — go ahead and grab them by the pussy. His pitch has always been that some things belong to you not because you have earned them but because you did not have to earn them. They are your birthright, and to be denied them is an affront: Supreme Court seats, the presumption of innocence, deference from police officers, the presidency itself.
    […]
    And when you’re real, they let you do it. You can be a grown, bearded man, brandishing bear spray, and a place ordinarily bristling with metal detectors and guards simply opens to you. A senator raises his fist in support. “We’ve just got to let them do their thing now,” one officer told the New York Times.
    But if you are not lucky enough to be the real one in the story, then what you see is different. The Trump era is also the story of being menaced with guns and told you weren’t actually being menaced with guns — you were seeing people exercising freedom; you were watching a cheery band of patriots come to see their government at work. They were domestic, in the most vibrant militia tradition of the Founding Fathers, nothing like terrorists. This was their right, if a little rowdy. Everyone calling it a coup, or a mob, or an insurrection was hysterical. Proud Boys will be boys, after all.
    It is the story of a president seeing all this and turning to the people who wreaked this havoc and telling them, “We love you. You’re very special.”
    The message echoes down the frescoed corridors: Never forget, for a second, what we can do to you, if no one stops us.

  53. If the articles of Impeachment are already written, they could be voted on and sent to the Senate tomorrow.  Chances of passage?

     

  54. Trump is going to Camp David

    I hope someone is keeping him sedated until he is thrown out or officially replaced on 1/20

     

  55.  
    @Acosta
    reports GOP sources close to White House say Trump “unstable, ranting and raving” and “bent on destruction in his final days.” We cannot take the nuclear codes away from him. We must take him away from the nuclear codes – before it is too late.
     
    Drooling Marius

  56. For those who say they are afraid of his followers if they invoke the 25th, what do you think they’ll do if you give him another day on the throne?   It’s not going to be good and you can’t let the mob rule the country.   

  57. Now is not the time to worry about casting blame for yesterday’s lack of security.   That is exactly what Republicans want to do. Trying to pivot away from the one who incited the mob.  Get rid of tRUMPsky before he destroys it all. 

  58. Pence isn’t going to do the 25 so either vote impeachment tomorrow or STFU. For me all the impeachment 25th amendment talk is just as much BS as what Josh Hawley did yesterday. They know it is going nowhere so they are just feeding redmeat to the base.
    As to what went on with the Capital police yesterday, it needs to be investigated, There is no excuse.
    Jack

  59. BiD
    What if the questions, “who incited the mob?” and “why was security so screwed up?”, both have the same answer?
    Jack

  60. Trump gave the snakes permission to crawl out from under their rocks.  They won’t change, so they need to be driven back under their rocks and deprived of power.

     

  61. It was an inside job?  Maybe.   I suspect, especially after seeing mob members gently ushered out, that there were sympathizers on the force.
     
    Well, we have a lot of work to do in this country.  Faux Noise has been indoctrinating Republicans for about two decades.  But, some folks were looking for exactly what they were dishing  up.  If you build it, they will come, I guess.  
    Right now, I just want the orange monster to be removed now or sedated until Biden takes office.  Then, I would like SFB, Pence and the entire mob crime family charged with sedition.  
    By the way, why are there no charges of domestic terrorism???   Not enough melanin?

  62. if D’ump could trust and convince pence to pardon him, he could declare himself (under the 25th amdt) unable to do his job as president because of his mental/emotional state – poor baby is clinically depressed – and let pence take the reins the last few days.   didn’t reagan and bush temporarily hand them off due to medical reasons?

    a way out without having to accept defeat.

  63. Congress should get rid of him, however.
     
    They should fix it so that he CAN NOT run for ANY office again.
     
    He should PAY for all the damage to the capitol building.  Dock his pay.  
     
    The names, addresses, and faces of ALL of thee rioters should be posted everywhere so that we know who they are. After Charlottesville there were 3 burned tiki torches in the dumpster here. Did they live here or nearby and not want their neighbors to know who they are?
     
    I want to know who they are and where they live.

  64. It’s been about 1 YEAR ago that trump was impeached.  Just think, if the repubes in the senate had done the right thing then, this year would have been way different.  COVID would have been contained, fewer deaths,  and people wouldn’t be facing eviction, etc. And yesterday wouldn’t have happened. 

  65. wapo:

    In memos issued on Jan. 4 and 5, the Pentagon prohibited the District’s guardsmen from receiving ammunition or riot gear, interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense, sharing equipment with local law enforcement or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary’s explicit sign-off, according to officials familiar with the orders.

    The D.C. Guard was also told it would be allowed to deploy a Quick Reaction Force only as a measure of last resort, the officials said.

    The need for higher-level approval appeared to have slowed the military response when the Capitol Police, the law enforcement force that reports to Congress and protects the House and the Senate, requested backup from 200 troops during a call with top Pentagon officials early Wednesday afternoon, according to officials familiar with the call.

  66. If congress doesn’t impeach him, again, or hit his fat ass with the 25th amendment, take him to some island, even a luxury one, and keep him there playing golf so that he can’t do any more damage!

  67. BiD
    Loeffler will never run again, it was no fun, She doesn’t need the money and she is off the A list society cocktail parties too.
    Jack

  68. jack – I hope you are correct…and I hope there is an investigation into insider trading in her future.

  69. tRUMP is weak.  He now says he won’t serve another term but can’t bring himself to concede because that means admitting he is a LOSER. 

  70. Pat
    The Capital Police force numbers 2300, That is enough for every person who breached the barrier to have had his own cop.  It responsible for 16 acres of territory and a few hundred people. Compare that to Kansas City with 1300 police officers protecting 480000 people over 320 square miles. And yes when the Trump machine came to town in 2016 those officers easily handled The bubbaheads, and the antifasters. Keep each to their own side of the street, used a lot of pepper spray but nobody died.  Did the same thing this summer for days on end.. But they were well trained. As I said earlier, the Capital police are used to harassing tourists and kissing Congressional asses.
    Jack

  71. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is now the second Cabinet secretary to resign over President Trump’s response to the riot on Capitol Hill yesterday, WSJ reporting.

  72. I’m starting to think maybe someone set Trump down and explained to him that his behavior leaves him open to  felony charges and since someone died, he could also be charged with murder. Cause I don’t think I have ever seen such a subdued Trump. Of course if he gets back his twitter account…….
    Jack

  73. Everybody is leaving , what? 2 weeks early? Too late you go down with the ship.
    Man there must have been a lot of people removed from the A list cocktail parties.
    Jack

  74. Right Jack, but I know from years of monitoring his Masonic tongues, that monotone reading of teleprompter was a hint to his loyals he does not mean it

  75. Junior was inciting the crowd at the rally. Rudee called on them to be violent.  The entire klan needs to go. 

  76. Patd, the hill headline on this: Trump condemns incites riots, says he will focus on transition in taped remark.  
    There, fixed that headline.  The Hill…🤦🏻‍♂️

  77. An attorney in N TX has lost his job after there was video of him at the protest saying that they intended to get inside the Capitol and stop the proceedings. Not sure if he made it inside, but that he is a white supremacist for tRUMPsky was enough to get him canned.  Could he be disbarred? 

  78. Well, there are the bases for pardons for Dumbass Jr. and the ghoul. GAAAAAHHHHHDDDDAAAAMMMMMIIIIITTTTT!!!!!!!

  79. Craig, teleprompter was my first thought, but there seemed to be a difference. He had a bit of a desperate/scared look imo. But given Trump……..
     
    Jack

  80. Was told today that a WV state rep was among th rioters and the calls for his resignation or ejection from the WV legislature.  Stoopid shit.

  81. It is just amazing how many of these people thought it was ok to get out the phone and take selfies that they then posted on line.
    What is the George Carlin line “Think about how dumb the average American is, remember half of them are dumber than that.”
    Jack

  82. Chao, DeVoss and Mulvaney all resigned today.  Ummm, Cap’n, we’re gonna need more scuppers.

  83. One of the bozos in the picture I posted earlier was wearing his work ID. Someone read it and let his boss know. He is now unemployed.
    And Craig, Tony he wasn’t even a Florida man.
    Jack

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