47 thoughts on “Trump Undone”

  1. other polls of interest for tonight from Austin’s Statesman:

    U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts has moved into second place with Texas Democratic voters, behind former Vice President Joe Biden but ahead of Beto O’Rourke, the former congressman from El Paso, according to two polls released Wednesday, just ahead of Thursday’s third Democratic debate at Texas Southern University in Houston.
    Two Texans — O’Rourke and former San Antonio Mayor Julián Castro, who is lagging in the surveys — will be among the 10 candidates onstage for Thursday night’s three-hour debate, the first in which all the candidates who met the Democratic National Committee’s polling and fundraising thresholds will be appearing on the same stage the same night.
    While Biden continues to hold a comfortable lead in Texas in both the Quinnipiac University Poll and University of Texas/Texas Tribune polls, as he does in virtually every national survey, the two new Texas polls both offer good news for Warren, who held a rally Tuesday night before 5,000 people on the shores of Lady Bird Lake in Austin. According to the UT/Texas Tribune poll, Warren is also the second choice of more voters than any other candidate, an important measure in a big field that will almost certainly winnow before the state’s March 3 primary. Also, according to Quinnipiac, voters prefer Warren’s policy ideas to those of all the other candidates.
    Quinnipiac found Biden with 28% support from Democratic voters in Texas and independent voters who lean Democratic, followed by Warren with 18%, and O’Rourke and U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont each at 12%. In Quinnipiac’s Texas survey in early June, Biden had 30%, O’Rourke had 16%, Sanders had 15% and Warren had 11%.
    Four other candidates were all in low to middle single digits in the Quinnipiac poll: U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris of California at 5%, Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., and Castro at 3%, and U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota at 2%. No other candidate was polling at more than 1%.
    In the UT/Texas Tribune poll, Biden was backed by 26% of Democratic voters, followed by Warren at 18%, O’Rourke at 14% and Sanders at 12%. In the June 2019 UT/Texas Tribune poll, it was Biden at 23%, O’Rourke at 15%, Warren at 14% and Sanders at 12%.


  2. axelrod op ed in NYTimes “Let Trump Destroy Trump”:

    The person most capable of defeating Donald Trump is Donald Trump. If Democrats are smart, they will let him do the job.
    President Trump thrives on outrage and resentment. He seethes with it, stirs it in others and mines it for his own political profit. His political project relies on driving Americans to their cultural and ideological corners. He is Pavlov. We are the dogs.
    Mr. Trump’s serial assaults on the decency and the decorum upon which civil society depends are enraging — and meant to be. It is only natural to respond to his every provocation with righteous indignation.
    My advice to the Democratic nominee next year is: Donʼt play.
    Wrestling is Mr. Trump’s preferred form of combat. But beating him will require jiu-jitsu, a different style of battle typically defined as the art of manipulating an opponent’s force against himself rather than confronting it with one’s own force.


  3. comedians comment on that very very strange way the twit referred to his child at NYTimes “best of late night” 

    During Mr. Trump’s remarks on vaping, he told reporters that the first lady, Melania, had taken an interest in the subject because “she has a son” — an odd reference to the couple’s teenage son, Barron Trump.

    “Or so I hear, I’ve not seen him for a while. He better not be vaping!” — JIMMY KIMMEL (as Trump)
    “At least Darth Vader claimed his son. If Trump was the dark lord, he would be like, ‘Luke, she is your mother.’” — TREVOR NOAH
    “The first lady has got a son — together. It’s a mutual son. Of course, I’m very involved with the doings of it, and so is the first lady, who is a lovely mother, together, who I love and know her name. So well that I won’t waste your time saying it out loud.” — STEPHEN COLBERT (as Trump)

  4. Once the Democratic candidate is chosen…   might I suggest that he/she keep needling and making fun of trump.  He hates to be laughed at…   and besides…  it’ll be great fun the watch his head explode.

  5. RR, yes, yes, yes.  
    So SFB’s hand picked court has agreed that he can deny asylum claims if the person seeking asylum hasn’t applied for asylum in another country they’ve traveled through to get to the US?  I am so proud of our country.  If that’s making America great, great must be a low bar.  And this from the guy who can see Liberty Island from his gold toilet in NYC.  What a pathetic individual.

  6. From Wapo:

    Supreme Court says Trump administration can begin denying asylum to migrants while legal fight continues

    The Trump administration can begin denying asylum requests from migrants at the southern border who have traveled through Mexico or another country without seeking protection there, after the Supreme Court on Wednesday lifted a lower court’s block on the new restriction.
    The justices put on hold an injunction from lower courts in California that halted the new rule pending additional legal action; there, a district judge had said it probably ran afoul of a federal statute and administrative law requirements.

    President Trump’s policy is a dramatic change in the way the federal government treats those seeking safe haven in the United States , and is one of the administration’s most significant efforts to deter migrants at the southern border. It is one of multiple tools immigration officials have deployed to prevent entry by families and others fleeing violence and poverty in Central America .
    * * * 
    No vote was recorded in the asylum case order, but Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg noted their disapproval of the court’s action in a strongly worded dissent.
    “Once again the Executive Branch has issued a rule that seeks to upend longstanding practices regarding refugees who seek shelter from persecution,” Sotomayor wrote:
    Although this Nation has long kept its doors open to refugees — and although the stakes for asylum seekers could not be higher — the Government implemented its rule without first providing the public notice and inviting the public input generally required by law.”
    As is common, the court’s majority did not provide a reason for lifting the injunction issued by a lower court. The issue is likely to come back to the Supreme Court when the ongoing legal challenges have been completed in lower courts.
    But that could take months, and Sotomayor said the status quo should remain in place until then. The change most affects Hondurans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans leaving behind gang violence and high levels of crime in their countries. It could also turn away migrants fleeing oppressive regimes in Nicaragua, Venezuela and elsewhere.

    MAGA?  I don’t think so.

  7. NC……see?    It was half-holes like these who started that civil war.   They’re playing for keeps, and will go to any and every length to spare themselves the shame of losing. They consider this battle nothing less than biblical in scope.  The Christians love enemy-smiting.  It’s their most cherished thrill.  Nietzsche tried to warn us, but the syphilis got him before he could polish them off, and then his enormously stupid sister gained control of his writing; but she couldn’t corrupt ALL of it

  8. If you’ve not read those two in toto, it’s high time you did. These books don’t call for “agreement”. They merely call for thought. He wasn’t after “followers”.

  9. Who are we now?  People who separate asylum seekers from their children and we treat the children like stray animals
    We turn away the victims of natural disasters
    We have a national policy of religious bigotry
    It’s no wonder so many people are seeking citizenship in other countries

  10. Yes RR, that’d be my addendum to Alexrod’s fine piece. Yes, don’t get mad but do make fun of him. Hire comedians if you have to. Or just quote Colbert, who has mastered the art of laughing at Trump.

  11. If you combine the numbers for Warren and Sanders it’s pretty clear a majority of Democrats do not want a re-tread like Biden.

  12. Glad to see a lot of emphasis on the senate races.  I hope  Ossoff learned the lesson of his own failed race and this week’s race — it’s all about turn-out.

    oh yeah and making sure your voters aren’t thrown off the rolls

  13. pogo, so that ruling means more people will be coming or attempt to by boat (never able to ask for asylum in a country midway)?  the notorious coyotes will become sharks and have to trade their semi-haulers in for cargo ships.  all along the central american coasts the price of rafts, inner tubes and water wings will rise.    

  14. house judi takes its 1st vote on a thousand hearings journey


    The committee voted along party-lines Thursday on new investigative procedures the panel will use “to determine whether to recommend articles of impeachment with respect to President Donald J. Trump,” the resolution reads. Similar procedures have been used in the impeachment proceedings against Presidents Richard M. Nixon and Bill Clinton.

    The additional tools would allow the committee to designate certain hearings as impeachment sessions, allow counsels to question witnesses publicly, permit some evidence to remain private and allow the president’s counsel to respond in writing to evidence and testimony.

  15. trump will have “to spend more time with family.” The announcement will come on twitter; it won’t say whose family; and he’ll be in russia for “a conference”. The accounts are already set up, and all that will remain will be to pull all the cash out of the trump enterprises – which ross’s Cypriote bank can do in an instant.
    My 9/12/19 prediction
    Signed, Xrepublican

  16. I suppose he’ll leave melanoma and barron behind. jared and ivanka will probably flee too, but probably not with the fat boy. The rest of the family won’t be alerted to the bunk, because they “failed me.”  Sorta like hitler’s sentiments about Germans in the Spring of  ’45. 

  17. If he wants to be considered for the VPship, one of the minor candy dates should ask, “How much is putin paying rendell ?”

  18. Craig will have me watching CNN, one way or another… such pretty colors!
    Let the criticisms come- Rendell’s weren’t too scathing.  Warren needs to be battle- tested, though, and now is the time for that.

    OK, i was never here, shhhh

  19. craig, me too since in some of those polls he was dubbed “winner” the real front runner with largest % was someone called Undecided 

  20. “As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
    H.L. Menken

  21. Fast Eddie – sigh.  Agreed that is not a piece Biden’s campaign should have floated.  
    Biden may not be the presumptive nominee at this point – and in fact I’d characterize the race today as being a 3 way horse race with two others who if all things go their way may be within striking distance, and a field of five with virtually no chance – but like it or not, he is the front runner.  I personally think the field is still fluid and that as lesser candidates drop out things could definitely change.  
    Patd, in the polls that RCP lists to rate this horse race, undecided doesn’t lead in any of the ones I saw.  That figure runs about 15-20%, depending on the methodology, and is as low as 10%. I don’t count polls that have more than the 20 candidates who made the first debates.  What is interesting, though is that voter commitment to a candidate runs in the range of mid 30s to mid 60s (According to the ABC poll in the RCP rankings), and according to that one, Biden is on the top end of that range.  I’m not sure I buy that conclusion – I would have thought Lizzie would have that spot. BTW, I highly recommend reading the article I linked explaining the ABC poll.

  22. Most of them are waiting for the others’ planes to crash.
    Only metaphorically, of course . . . hmmmm . . . maybe . . . .
    I can tell, gabbard wants to go to a lotta funerals.
    Maybe not to Harris’s.

  23. It doesn’t help Warren that she took potshots at Hillary and has now caught flak for anti Obama remarks.  I think the far left “progressives” are overplaying their hand.  Let’s see what happens tonight.  I’m about to dump Biden and Warren to join my loathing for Bernie.  

    Obama Administration Official Slam Warren 



  24. I call this Election Morning *
    Wake ! for the Sun has scattered into flight The Stars before him from the Field of Night,
    Drives Night with them from Heav’n, and strikes The Sultan’s Tower with a shaft of Light.
    *apologies to Omar, Edward, and you

  25. Jamie…  that article from The Hill was disgusting!  Whoever that “former Obama staffer” is can get the fuck outta the way if they can’t help the Democratic Party against Trump.

  26. Relax folks.  With the exception of Bernie, I don’t have to love the eventual nominee to vote for them in the general.  

  27. Jamie…  I’m not upset at you.  I’m upset with that moron from Obama’s staff.  The enemy is trumpty dumpty…   not a fellow Democrat.

  28. I specifically remember Warren being a good team-player in 2016, and she campaigned for informally and did attack-dog work for HRC, who didn’t even bother campaigning in the rust belt.
    …remember the “all I got was this goofy red hat” speeches?

    Also, realize that a former Obama staffer might have a personal interest in seeing a Biden administration, if a previous relationship might lead to an appointment by Biden.

    Everyone has a mortgage to pay. (D.C. real estate ain’t cheap)

  29. Go, Elizabeth, Go!   
    Steve Mnuchin is so despicable.  If I didn’t want to see the debate tonight, I might’ve thrown something at the TV.  
    Can the media please take their ADHD meds and stay on task this time, please?

  30. Does Perez have to screech?  He’s holding a microphone.  Thank goodness for volume control. 


  31. Warren on immigration: “A system right now that cannot tell the difference between a threat posed by a terrorist, a criminal and a 12-year old girl is not a system a system that is keeping us safer.”

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