Picture This

This a wood stove in a 3rd floor walk up apartment in Jersey City. Non-functional now, it’s still there as a reminder of days long gone.


72 thoughts on “Picture This”

  1. speaking of long ago stuff

    In his editorial New Rule, Bill calls on liberals to stop judging everyone’s past behavior by today’s “woke” standards.

  2. Looks fully functional, just run a stove pipe out the window. 
    Moms gas stove had so many gadgets which quit working that she only baked in the winter when she could use the wood stove. There is a trick to adjusting the heat on a wood stove, from venting the fire just right to movement of the pot on the stove. Gas or electric stoves with a dial you just set are so much easier.

  3. Sturgeone – I was thinking about the old days when every house had some sort of incinerator to burn trash and garbage.  Those were also the days of coal fueled furnaces. 
    For someone on suicide watch he must have had some help with going room temperature.  The rich and famous do not like their names associated with a raper of children.  I wonder if he told some of his story before croaking.

  4. “For someone on suicide watch he must have had some help…”

    bbronc, suicide watch must have a different meaning in NY —  protocol to watch a suicide successfully take place


    will this shut the door on more info coming out now that his part in the case is moot and will not be prosecuted? what about any abettors who were charged

  5. K……sí……..of course first thing I wanted to do was fire it up……plenty of deadwood on the streets of JC.  
    Alas, it was not to be.

  6. I went a Nashville winter, twice time, with the only heat source being a “Franklin Stove” in the main room. Done know if you’re familiar with a Franklin stove, but they are real pretty, and great for looking at the fire.   Trouble is, they don’t heat and they go thru wood like a tribe of mutant Minnesota Super Beavers.
    lotsa wood, and heat bricks to wrap in towels under the kivers at the feet

  7. Fortunately there was a fallen-in shed, and a long stretch of abandoned wood fence. Right up my alley.  Supplement that with a load of good oak hardwood now and then and good to go.
     House was built in 1921, and was surrounded by Iris plants, and iris plants went around the perimeter of the yard and followed the fence down one side of the driveway all the way to the road, and back down the other side to the house again. Deep blue Iris.

  8. Come March or April, whenever those things bloom, the old place took on a glow of psychedelic Blueness.  Very welcome as Old Man winter was loosening his claws.

  9. I have many a time, and will again, but current circumstances preclude the possibility of inside fire.  

  10. In the “what goes around comes around” theory of things — 
    I’ve heard people saying SFB ordered Billy Barr to have Epstein killed.  Just saying that’s what people are talking about

  11. No cameras?
    no tapes?
    twitter: If you’re surprised by Ep’s suicide, imagine how surprised HE was.
    sorry chief, he fell on my sword

  12. Col Mistard in the prison library with poison mushrooms.
    if it turns out to be polonium…..THAT’S going to be problematic.

  13. Well, I’ve heated with wood  and hauled my water up by a rope and  well bucket. I still have the bucket and pulley we used when I was a kid. 
    When I moved to the city, 2 things I dearly loved, indoor plumbing and  gas central heating. 2 of the best benefits of civilization. Since then I have heated my house with a wood stove but only because circumstance dictated it. Wood heat is hard dirty work, not just the hauling in the wood but the constant cleaning you have to do because of the smoke and ashes.

  14. We are off the grid and for us wood heat works the best but all the things Jack says about it are true 

  15. Ya know the Epstein suicide  showed just how nuts we all have become. Everybody started spouting conspiracy theories. Every other tweet in my twitter feed. 

  16. And as a favor to the conspiracy theorist in chief –it is our obligation as proud Americans to repeat and promote them all

  17. When growing up, the phrase about wood heat I hated the most, and my father and my father’s father . . . Wood heats you twice, once when you chop it and second when you burn it.
    The best conspiracy theories are when the circumstances are so believable that an action is plausible.  With SFB BFF Epstein sitting in jail to rot and needing a way out, which might happen with a full and complete telling of the truth, including names, anything that hastens his silence is open to conspiracy.

  18. CNBC:  Attorney General Barr ‘appalled’ by Epstein’s suicide, says inspector general and FBI investigating


    Attorney General Bill Barr said Saturday that he is “appalled” by Jeffrey Epstein’s death, and has consulted with the Inspector General about an investigation after Epstein hanged himself and was found in his jail cell early on Saturday.

    “I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody,” Barr said.


    “Mr. Epstein’s death raises serious questions that must be answered. In addition to the FBI’s investigation, I have consulted with the Inspector General who is opening an investigation into the circumstances of Mr. Epstein’s death.” 

    The U.S. Bureau of Prisons confirmed in a statement Saturday that the FBI would investigate the suicide of the financier, who is accused of sexually abusing and trafficking underage girls. There is nothing at this point to suggest foul play, a senior law enforcement official said. 

    The FBI normally does not investigate suicides at federal prison facilities, but officials said that given the nature of Epstein’s case, an “abundance of caution” would be taken.


  19. “interesting answer from the mooch to maher audience question about who could beat trump“ -patd

    Well, who did he say?  I hate watching vids.

  20. Your lordship, I’m with you about the videos, unless they are music. 
    But as to the mooch’s opinion on something……………..

  21. So is it true Epstein introduced Melania to SFB.  I guess she was too old and big for him

  22. wapo:


    The death is sure to draw intense scrutiny of the Bureau of Prisons and the Metropolitan Correctional Center. The high-rise federal detention center in downtown Manhattan has a fearsome reputation; one inmate who spent time there and in Guantanamo Bay famously said Guantanamo Bay was “more pleasant” and “more relaxed.”

    The facility is no stranger to high-profile inmates. It recently housed notorious drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán while he was on trial in Brooklyn, and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has spent time there around court proceedings in New York — though records show he has since been moved to a different facility in Pennsylvania.


    The facility in New York also housed Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, who masterminded the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and Bernard Madoff, who ran the biggest Ponzi scheme in U.S. history.


  23. At our family farm, heating was generally by hi-tech fireplaces that generated warm air flow as well as the peaceful glow that comfort all within their surrounds. Cooking was generally by kerosene stove and lighting by kerosene lanterns. Wood for the stoves was often from the 25-acre apple orchard or the monstrous trees in the pasture when age would finally overcome them. As I’ve said before, there were no phones or electrical devices until well into the 50s. Pristine spring-water was captured directly into porcelain lined buckets. Rain water was ducted into large wooden vessels for washing needs. Outdoor privies were universally used.
    Might I say, it was all very rustic?

  24. Stephanie Rule is an idiot — the queen of the false equivalency  –in a discussion about Epstein someone brought up SFB’s close relationship and the moron Rule said — let’s not forget he was also friends with Bill Clinton — she sid she pointed it out to show she wasn’t partisan — but she is an idiot.  

  25. I envision the Trump “library”… He don’t reed so…no books. Maybe The Art of that he didn’t write.
    Gold color everywhere. Big TV screens with videos of him, all him, all day & Faux News and a McDonald’s stand upon entering.  In the ‘executive time’ room … big tv screen & a bed. Period.

  26. bink,

    the mooch,  when asked which candidate would trump fear the most, said someone younger as a contrast  and that dems “always do better when they go with someone below the age of 50” giving JFK, Clinton and Obama as examples.

  27. “Raise your hand if you believe that Epstein committed suicide.“ -tiptoe
    Why wouldn’t he?  His life was over.

    (Thanks, patd, for the clarification- the “mooch” makes a good point?)

  28. I remember hearing on the BBC World Service that wood-smoke from cooking-fires in the home is the #1 cause of lung-cancer, worldwide, although i can’t find that statistic online, right now.

  29. One of things about watching reruns such as The Mary Tyler Moore Show, is reminding myself that it was shot in the early to mid 1970’s.  The Vietnam War was still hot at the start of it.  Nixon and Watergate peaked during it.  The modern microprocessor was still being invented and the tools to make it too.  Cell phones did not exist. The computer era was still based on mainframes, although we did a lot of work with midi sized computers in field locations.  The digital telephone was replacing the analog phones.  Lighting was incandescent and fluorescent.  
        Women were breaking free of restraints, but those restraints were still strong.  One episode was focused on Mary not making the coffee.  I still find myself surprised that my wife and I were on the leading edge, me, I could not understand why she would not be equal to men.  She that she had to fight to be equal to her men c0-workers.

  30. No camera, no tape.  Very odd, wot?
    It’s quiet.  Too quiet. I don’t like it.
    —general Custer’s Arikari scout before taking it on the lam.

  31. You’ve got spunk.
    [Long pause while Mary gushes with modest gratitude.]
    I HATE spunk!
    —Lou Grant

  32. bink,   wapo had an article about that wood fire health problem back in 2015:

    About 3 billion of the world’s poorest people burn wood, charcoal or dung in smoky, open fires to cook their food and heat their homes. Millions die annually from lung and heart ailments caused by cooking with solid fuels, according to the World Health Organization.

    With that in mind, Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state, launched a public-private partnership called the Global Alliance for Clean Cookstoves in 2010. By creating a global market for “clean and efficient household cooking solutions,” the alliance would “save lives, improve livelihoods, empower women and protect the environment.” Providing poor women with clean cookstoves, Clinton said at the annual gathering of the Clinton Global Initiative in New York, “could be as transformative as bed nets or even vaccines,” which have saved tens of millions of lives.

    It hasn’t worked out that way, despite the best efforts of the alliance, which operates as a project of the U.N. Foundation in Washington.

    The alliance has accomplished a great deal, given its staff of a few dozen and a modest budget, about $10 million a year. It has focused attention on the problem of household air pollution; promoted international cookstove standards; attracted more than $413 million in government, foundation and corporate funding to the sector; and enlisted 1,300 partners, it says in a new five-year progress report. With actress Julia Roberts and chef José Andrés as its global ambassadors, the alliance has helped drive more than 28 million cookstoves into the field, well on its way to the target set by Clinton: 100 million by 2020.

    But “clean” is a nebulous term. Of those 28 million cookstoves, only 8.2 million — the ones that run on electricity or burn liquid fuels including liquefied petroleum gas (LPG), ethanol and biogas — meet the health guidelines for indoor emissions set by the WHO. The vast majority of the stoves burn wood, charcoal, animal dung or agricultural waste — and aren’t, therefore, nearly as healthy as promised. Although these cookstoves produce fewer emissions than open fires, burning biomass fuels in them still releases plenty of toxins. “As yet, no biomass stove in the world is clean enough to be truly health protective in household use,” says Kirk Smith, a professor of global environmental health at the University of California at Berkeley and the leading health researcher on cookstoves.


  33. wood smoke generally bad.  it’s against the law to build new homes with wood burning fireplaces in Sonoma County  you can have a pellet stove though.  Since we are off the grid (not even near it) and in a rural part of the county we can still use our woodstove   even on spare the air days –although we try not to

  34. Old joe is still running interference, if somehow it actually were to fall into his lap, he would take it. But it won’t. Warren is solid ground, pilgrim.

  35. Warren is saying all the right things for me.  I’ll vote for her in the primary, which means she’ll lose.?

  36. Let’s get into the Way Back Machine for some happier things to remember:

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    • Originally from:  1950s Do You Remember
      Mergatroyd! The other day a not so elderly (I say 75) lady said something to her son about driving a Jalopy; and he looked at her quizzically and said “What the heck is a Jalopy?” He never heard of the word jalopy! She knew she was old. But not that old. Well, I hope you are Hunky Dory after you read this and chuckle. So let’s illuminate some old expressions that have become obsolete because of the inexorable march of technology. Phrases like: Don’t touch that dial, Carbon copy, You sound like a broken record, and Hung out to dry. Back in the olden days we had a lot of moxie. We’d put on our best bib and tucker, to straighten up and fly right. Heavens to Betsy! Gee whillikers! Jumping Jehoshaphat! Holy moley! We were in like Flynn and living the life of Riley; and even a regular guy couldn’t accuse us of being a knucklehead, a nincompoop or a pill. Not for all the tea in China! Back in the olden days, life used to be swell, but when’s the last time anything was swell? Swell has gone the way of beehives, pageboys and the D.A.; of spats, knickers, fedoras, poodle skirts, saddle shoes, and pedal pushers. Oh, my aching back! Kilroy was here, but he isn’t anymore. We wake up from what surely has been just a short nap, and before we can say, “Well, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle!” Or, “This is a fine kettle of fish!” We discover that the words we grew up with, the words that seemed omnipresent, as oxygen, have vanished with scarcely a notice from our tongues and our pens and our keyboards. Poof, go the words of our youth, the words we’ve left behind. We blink, and they’re gone. Where have all those great phrases gone? Long gone: Pshaw, The milkman did it. Hey! It’s your nickel. Don’t forget to pull the chain. Knee high to a grasshopper. Well, Fiddlesticks! Going like sixty. I’ll see you in the funny papers. Don’t take any wooden nickels. Wake up and smell the roses. It turns out there are more of these lost words and expressions than Carter has little liver pills. This can be disturbing stuff! (Carter’s Little Liver Pills are gone too!) We of a certain age have been blessed to live in changeable times. For a child each new word is like a shiny toy, a toy that has no age. We at the other end of the chronological arc have the advantage of remembering there are words that once did not exist and there were words that once strutted their hour upon the earthly stage and now are heard no more, except in our collective memory. It’s one of the greatest advantages of aging. Leaves us to wonder where Superman will find a phone booth… See ya later, alligator! Oki-doki
  37. Ya gotta admit, burning large quantities of wood for heat is pretty darned primitive.
    The Oracle at Delphi could have just been no more than the place where they keep the fire going.

  38. Oh, man….you did NOT want to be on the cave-team who let the fire go out while all the guys were out hunting mastodons

  39. Lol, CC, good for you.  To my credit, I was Team Warren in 2016, but i’m Not sure she can out-dumb Trump in the GE.  All copies of that cringe-y beer-drinking video of hers need to be eradicated, also, and she can’t make tone-deaf gaffes like that going forward, at all.  The “Pacific-Islander” thing is a huge liability, too!

  40. The presidential debates.
    The democrats, by then, all of them, will have a patented “look” they will give as they face the level of stupidity to which this person can rise. 
    It’s going to be a great look.

  41. Hahaha, Liz Warren or Kamala Harris at some point walking over and offering him a hankie, you know, for his “sniffles”.

  42. Which sayings are the real deal ?
    Ya gotta stop and eat the roses.
    I felt like the toad beneath the harrow.
    I wish I could shimmy like my sister Kate.
    Use your charger plate.
    It’s a Duesie.
    Ya gotta plow your own furrow.
    He went doggo
    Beer by the bucket
    We flew the milk run.
    Give the milkman our order.
    It’s not your father’s Oldsmobile.

  43. Warren/Booker or Warren/Castro. If the ticket takes Texas, the rippers are doomed. 
    & I’m still not sure that trump will be the fascist nominee. He could have a stroke any day.

  44. I had a hurt leg so I bowed out of the super multi-cave mastodon hunt. Alls I had to do was make damn sure the fire didn’t go out. The women were all out foraging for rodents and stuff. So I got the fire all stoked and I see my bow and arrow over in the corner. I string her up and I’m plunking on it gettin some new sounds, when Thag, drummer for the next cave over, pokes his head in and says, “Umng,”. He finds a hollow log and as he just happened to have brought his “clubs” with him we began to wail. We wailed until the sun was going down. We looked up and everybody was coming back from the hunt carrying huge chunks of mastodon meat, and I thought, “Ohhhh SHIT.”
    Thag disappeared and there was no fire. We had to go to Thag’s cave and beg for fire.
    Mawg broke my bow and stuck me with a spear.

  45. I really liked Beto.  Still prefer Warren in the Senate.  Biden bores me.  Booker is a good man but not particularly exciting.  Castro might be okay for the Veep slot, but prefer him in the Cabinet. Still not sure about Harris.  

    Harris/Beto might work – Still thinking hard about all of them.

    None of them feel like either Hillary or Barrack and I really, really want someone to slap the hell out of the orange stain in the White House. 



  46. The birth of the stringed instrument. By the way, I remember Thag from the Far Side. You know some cool folks, Mr Sturgeone.

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