Lets Make a Deal

By WhskyJack, a Trail Mix Contributor

So if that noise we hear is furniture breaking in the West Wing then it is time to make a deal and end this shutdown. For in the end politics is always the art of the deal and the Speaker was taking master classes in the art back when Donnie was putting on his playboy act and being bailed out by daddy.

First, it is time for Pelosi to ditch Chuck. She is after all the Speaker and he is basically nobody. (She should be nice about it. But still, Steny and Chuck, who are equals, should always be 3 steps behind her) The reason is she has to point out some basic truths that if delivered in front of other males would force Trump to get all macho. So a quiet, private, just the 2 of them meeting.

First, She says, “Donald you are bankrupt, You have been there before so you know what that means. In the interest of the country we will let you have a victory. You will get your 5 billion for barrier upgrade, you get your wall but not this year and it is going to cost you.”

Then tie it into a comprehensive package of border security and immigration reforms. Most details will have to be worked out like any other legislation, but should include adequate judges so any immigrant gets to have their case heard in 6 months, not the current yearslong wait. Port of entry upgrades so entry from Mexico is as painless as entry from Canada. Better worker programs, with ones that address issues in this hemisphere.

And since Trump can’t be trusted to keep his word any current legislation to open up the government needs to contain a poison pill to keep him honest.

Past this on to Nancy, I’m sure she will appreciate the advice.



30 thoughts on “Lets Make a Deal”

  1. jack, good idea.   viva Nancy!
    add in another angle she could suggest:  Venezuela.   didn’t the twit just endorse a take over (aka coup d’état)  by a legislative leader to replace an illegitimately elected president? 
    The Trump administration announced Wednesday that it would no longer recognize Nicolás Maduro as the legitimate president of Venezuela, instead offering its formal support for opposition leader Juan Guaidó, who was elected leader of the Venezuelan congress earlier this month.
    “The citizens of Venezuela have suffered for too long at the hands of the illegitimate Maduro regime,” President Trump said on Twitter.

  2. It is important to note that SFB does not acknowledge Speaker Pelosi’s position or title.  If he does state it I think is when he is finished and ready to walk.  Hopefully that happens very soon.

  3. We’re supposed to be doing it, and now Nancy Pelosi — or ‘Nancy,’ as I call her — she doesn’t want to hear the truth. And she doesn’t want, more importantly, the American people to hear the truth,” Trump said at a meeting with conservative leaders at the White House.

    Truth? What in the hell does he know about the truth? He wouldn’t know it if he got kicked in the ass by it. God knows it’s never gonna come out of his ugly puss.

  4. So SFB’s approval in the AP/NORC poll released today is at 34%.  Fake news?  I don’t think so. 
    And what about the lovely Lara Trump’s “little bit of pain” comment?  Whaddafuckingidiot. 

  5. abc news:
    Five former Homeland Security secretaries sent a letter to President Donald Trump and members of Congress Wednesday, on day 33 of the partial government shutdown, urging funding for the department.
    Former DHS secretaries Tom Ridge, Michael Chertoff, Janet Napolitano, Jeh Johnson and John Kelly, who is also the president’s former chief of staff, signed the letter.
    They wrote that Homeland Security is no different than the Defense Department in that they work hand in hand to keep the nation safe. The department is responsible for funding agencies like the U.S. Coast Guard, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and Customs and Border Protection.
    “While we are heartened to learn that communities, businesses and religious organizations around the country are providing assistance to DHS employees, this cannot and should not be the answer,” the secretaries wrote.
    The group said that the department risks losing talented men and women, but shouldn’t rely on charity from others. They also pointed out that members of the Coast Guard, by law, cannot quit or seek full-time, outside employment.
    “This is unconscionable,” they wrote.
    The Senate is scheduled to hold its first votes on bills to end the government shutdown since December when the budget first ran out without a compromise reached and federal doors began to close. But the proposals — one from Democrats and one from Republicans — were not expected to pass. The two sides remain at a political impasse.
    “We call on our elected leaders to restore the funding necessary to ensure our homeland remains safe and that the Department’s critical national security functions continue without compromise,” the secretaries wrote.

  6. so why are folks surprised about trump destroying the country?
    lest we forget who was considered the brains, ran the campaign and gave ample warning of what to expect from the twit.
    remember back in 2016 from daily beast:

    I met Steve Bannon—the executive director of Breitbart.com who’s now become the chief executive of the Trump campaign, replacing the newly resigned Paul Manafort—at a book party held in his Capitol Hill townhouse on Nov. 12, 2013. We were standing next to a picture of his daughter, a West Point graduate, who at the time was a lieutenant in the 101 Airborne Division serving in Iraq. The picture was notable because she was sitting on what was once Saddam Hussein’s gold throne with a machine gun on her lap. “I’m very proud of her,” Bannon said.
    Then we had a long talk about his approach to politics. He never called himself a “populist” or an “American nationalist,” as so many think of him today. “I’m a Leninist,” Bannon proudly proclaimed.
    Shocked, I asked him what he meant.
    “Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” Bannon was employing Lenin’s strategy for Tea Party populist goals. He included in that group the Republican and Democratic Parties, as well as the traditional conservative press.
    His goal was to bring down the entire establishment including the leaders of the Republican Party in Congress.
    Trump’s decision to take on Bannon indicates that he wants to wage his campaign along the lines laid down by him—that of destroying the Republican leadership and the Party as we know it. Trump’s behavior thus far has been compatible with Bannon’s belief in Leninist tactics. As the Bolshevik leader once said, “The art of any propagandist and agitator consists in his ability to find the best means of influencing any given audience, by presenting a definite truth, in such a way as to make it most convincing, most easy to digest, most graphic, and most strongly impressive.”
    Only one question remains. Knowing this, why do leaders like Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and others, who regularly condemn Trump’s statements but yet still endorse him, stick with such a self-defeating approach? They will only end up helping Bannon and company cast them into oblivion and finish their hostile take-over of the GOP.


  7. bannon also said just this last summer (obviously he still is in the loop or at least are in operation his goals to destroy the gov’t) :

    Washington (CNN)Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon predicts there will be another government shutdown in the near future.

    “I believe the government will actually shut down in the run-up to the election,” Bannon told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria, referring to the midterm elections in November.
    What could trigger it, according to Bannon, is a fight over the southern border wall.

    RELATED: Bannon: Rosenstein should be ordered to turn over documents on FBI source
    “The wall is not just totemic,” Bannon said. “The wall is absolutely central to his program.” 

    President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall was perhaps the biggest policy platform during his campaign for the presidency, but it has yet to materialize.
    “I believe that what he’s going to do is, as we come up on September 30, if that appropriations bill does not include spending to fully build his wall — not some $1.6 billion for prototypes, I mean to build the southern wall — I believe he will shut down the government,” Bannon added.


  8. intended or un-intended consequence for twit prolonging the shutdown?
    Mueller grand jury could start feeling the pinch of the government shutdown

  9. Jack… great post.
    Whenever I hear trump call Pelosi “Nancy”, I think of another Nancy that sang these word:
    These boots are made for walking
    And that’s just what they’ll do
    One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you

  10. “dude, I know that it’s driving you crazy that a woman turned you down but this is the point in life when you’ve got to learn no means no. there’ll be no grabbing this podium until Nancy is good and ready”

  11. By all means give Trump his five billion for a wall. Then remind him that the House rules demand all legislation be paid for. Included in the bill will be language that recindes all the Paul Ryan era tax cuts. Deal done.

  12. Kick in $5 B!LL!ON for the wall, if trump resigns first. The Apprentice can sign the papers for him.

  13. Re bannonism/leninism :
    lenin did not bring things crashing down in order to let Leftist anarchists or Social Revolutionaries rebuild democratically. He did it to re-establish autocracy, with a red czar ruling a nation of serf-powered grand estates called soviets.  Apparently, bannon admitted that his aim was to establish an autocracy in the US, with the czar ruling over vast soviets called corporations. How does this differ from putinism ?

  14. Impeach the fucker before he destroys us all.

    No more deals. Put him on a one-way flight to Moscow and let’s be done with this nonsense.

  15. *Meuller steps out into a barren, charred, post-apocalyptic landscape*

    ”Ok guys, I’m done with my report!  Guys?  Guys??  Hello?!”

  16. bink, an even faster way might be for that same coalition of UK, Canada, Brazil and Argentina (with E.U. countries sorta on-board by calling only for a second election)   that has endorsed a legislative leader to replace an illegitimately elected president to do the same here.   in this case, china probably would agree even though they with Russia don’t in the Venezuela coup d’état.

  17. Sure, patd- why not?  Our destiny is already being decided by foreign-state actors, might as well make it official!

  18. Non-Latin American countries should stay out of the Venezuela mess. Preferably, it should be handled by South Americans with the rest of us minding our own business. China must be kept out and the Australians to mind their own business.

  19. atta boy, mark. 
    from wapo:
    With the partial federal shutdown having entered its second month and no resolution in sight, a Democratic senator is introducing a bill that he says would prevent such crises in the future.
    The name of the bill: the Stop STUPIDITY Act.
    The measure, introduced Tuesday by Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), would automatically keep all of the federal government running in the case of a future funding standoff — with the exceptions of the legislative branch and the Executive Office of the President.
    “The Stop STUPIDITY Act takes the aggressive but necessary step of forcing the president and Congress to do the jobs they were elected to do,” Warner said in a statement. “Workers, business owners and tax payers are currently paying the price of D.C. gridlock and my legislation will put an end to that.”
    The full name of Warner’s measure is the “Stop Shutdowns Transferring Unnecessary Pain and Inflicting Damage in the Coming Years Act” — a moniker that, some astute Congress watchers pointed out, actually results in the acronym “Stop STUPIDITCY Act.”
    Over the years, as members of Congress have tangled over keeping the federal government funded, lawmakers of both parties have sometimes sought to withhold congressional pay in the event of a shutdown.
    But the constitutionality of doing so remains a matter of debate, and such measures have been largely symbolic in nature.
    In 2011, the Senate unanimously passed a bill stating that neither members of Congress nor the president would receive their basic pay during any government shutdown of longer than 24 hours.
    When House Democrats sought to introduce their version of the legislation, however, Republicans surprised them by revealing that the Obama administration had notified them that attempting to dock lawmakers’ pay was “patently unconstitutional.”
    Republicans argued that a separate GOP-authored measure was constitutional because it would just temporarily withhold pay rather than eliminate it.

  20. … meanwhile, Wall Street analysts are warning that the recent slowdown in US news production could begin to effect international news markets.
    CBS and ABC both report using more pre-made Christmas and New Year stories, using stock footage, than in recent years. “One has to go back to January of 1980 to see story production this low,” reports Maxine Ringer of Bloomberg. 
    In the foreign markets analysts have seen a sharp uptick in heart-warming, ‘pre-told’ stories at both the Agence France and BBC news factories. Martin Angell of Media Scores warns that the increase in reindeer and snowman images in European media markets is mimicking the trend begun in the US. “It looks like we may be in for a dire news shortage if governments don’t intervene promptly.”

  21. With 8 billion people on the planet, news organizations are struggling to make enough news to fill the global need. Many organizations have made switch to cheap ‘filler’ stories. Many others, like Fox and Breitbart, have been producing hot, highly-flavored, nutrition-less articles, commonly called fake news. Glenn Grussgott of Big Tales claims that such strategies are neither new nor necessarily bad. “On the nineteenth century they were often called ‘yarns,’ and without them the European news services would have been unable to lure people to horrible empty places like the American Midwest and Southwest.” But can the lightweight frothy stories of today build strong nations and hemispheres as they once did ? Dr Marsha Lanson is doubtful. “A steady diet of stories about lottery winners, reunions with long lost relatives, and dog rescues starves the brain of vital nutrients. In periods of real news shortages such as this, entire societies may actually regress, as happened in the Eisenhower years.”

  22. I would prefer the media not use the term ” surrender” when talking about SFB not pursuing the SotU address in the House.  Someone very powerful had to have hit him upside the head with a two by four and got his attention long enough to make him understand he is not a dictator and Speaker Pelosi would not allow him in her House.  He took the path that would eventually let him talk in the House and be on TV.

  23. X-R – very apt description.  There are hints that SFB is planning on giving in on all the government budget plans and then declare a national emergency and send the military in to build the damned barrier.

  24. WaPo sez:
    The first bill the Senate defeated was a proposal from Trump to reopen the government through Sept. 30 while spending $5.7 billion to erect more than 200 miles of new border walls. Trump’s plan also would clamp down on asylum seekers and provide temporary deportation relief to about 1 million unauthorized immigrants whose protections Trump previously had sought to end.
    The vote was 50 to 47, short of the 60 votes needed to advance. Conservative Republican Sens. Mike Lee (Utah) and Tom Cotton (Ark.) voted with the majority of Democrats against the plan, saying that it didn’t offer the immigration changes needed, while Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) joined Republicans in supporting it.
    The second vote was on a short-term spending bill from Democrats that would have reopened the government through Feb. 8 without any additional wall money, to allow for negotiations on border security with the government open. Both bills contained billions of dollars for hurricane and wildfire disaster relief, although the figure in the Democratic bill was higher, partly because it included aid to Puerto Rico that Trump has opposed.
    The vote on the Democrats’ bill was 52 to 44, also short of 60, with Republican Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), and Mitt Romney (Utah) defying Trump to join all Democrats in voting in favor.

    So,  the losing Dem bill got more votes than the losing pugn bill. 

    And of course Joe Manchin votes for both bills. ??? C’mon, Joe, grow a pair as big as Nancy’s. 

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