Go Joe

Run for one term. Pick a young running mate.

Votedem.org List of 2020 Possibilities

  • Joe Biden, former Vice President
  • Cory Booker, New Jersey Senator
  • Julian Castro, former HUD Secretary
  • Andrew Cuomo, New York Governor
  • Eric Garcetti, Los Angeles Mayor
  • Kirsten Gillibrand, New York Senator
  • Kamala Harris, California Senator
  • Eric Holder, former Attorney General
  • John Hickenlooper, Colorado Governor
  • Amy Klobuchar, Minnesota Senator
  • Deval Patrick, former Massachusetts Governor
  • Bernie Sanders, Vermont Senator
  • Tom Steyer, Environmental and Trump Impeachment advocate
  • Elizabeth Warren, Massachusetts Senator
  • Oprah Winfrey, Media Entrepreneur

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87 thoughts on “Go Joe”

  1. the guardian:

    Marco Rubio: Parkland survivors ‘have done more in five weeks than has been done in 15 years’


    “They’ve done more in five weeks on gun violence than has been done in 15 years,” he said. “The parents have come together, all 17, even though they don’t always agree. They aren’t out there saying, ‘Don’t vote for anything unless we have everything’.”

    “The attitude of total victory — the idea that somehow some of us are going to come up here and get everything we want and just run over the other side — our system is just not set up for that,” Rubio said.
    “We’re creating unrealistic expectations and, in the process, nothing happens.”


  2. Dear Emma, Lauren and Rebecca,
    Thank you for your note and congratulations on the incredible work you and all of your fellow students are doing to make the country a safer place.
    It’s terrific that you’re editing the Guardian. It’s a stellar newspaper and they must feel honored to be working with you.
    Amal and I are 100% behind you and will be marching in DC on the 24th, but we both feel very strongly that this is your march. Your moment. Young people are taking it to the adults and that has been your most effective tool. The fact that no adults will speak on the stage in DC is a powerful message to the world that if we can’t do something about gun violence then you will. The issue is going to be this, anyone you ask would feel proud to be interviewed by you but it’s so much more effective if it’s young people.
    You could talk to a dozen kids like the young kids from Chicago and LA that Emma met with. You could take over the Guardian and make it tell the stories of children by children. It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity to point to this moment and say it belongs to you. You certainly should do what you want but that would be my hope for you.
    Amal and I stand behind you, in support of you, in gratitude to you.
    You make me proud of my country again.
    Thank you.
    All the best,

  3. boss, I don’t mean to ignore joe.  really love the guy, but this is not his moment in history. it’s theirs…. our future literally on the march. marching forward not backward.

  4. So,  just think what those young folks will do in 5 years when they are voting, and in 10 or 15 years when they hold office.


    Will Joe be running against Trumpsky, Pencesky, Lyin Ryan…?

  5. If anyone saw the live feed from Harvard this week, well, the Parklanders were just amazing.

    Fear not for our country, except that the old folks don’t cede power quickly enough.

  6. Love Joe… respect him much…  however, he will not get my vote in the NH primary.

    I want the Democratic nominee to be a new face and someone that younger people can get excited about and fully support.  I’m confident that someone will emerge.

  7. RR – I am with you.  Biden can be a great ambassador or he can be the guy who does not know when to quit.  Same with all the Dems over sixty-five.  I want to see our younger people. Although the younger Baby Boomers are not in that age group, I would like to see them helping put together teams to go through the beauty pageants for a couple years.

  8. Just no.


    though Biden has a good gift for gab and as Flatus pointed out can be impressive at times, he has consistently shown a level of cluelessness that has stopped any presidential run. Plagiarism , the Anita Hill hearing , an untold number of forgotten trip ups,  to this weeks silliness, they all demonstrate that he isn’t Presidential material. It is a  given if he is the democratic candidate he will do something stupid. He has for 40 years, there is no indication he has changed.




  9. I think we look to the Senate for too many of our presidential candidates. If you want fresh faces start looking where Democrats are accomplishing thinks out in the states and urban mayors. That is where someone is dealing with real issues that effect real people. Not in Washington and certainly not in the House or Senate. Unless you believe spending half your time making fund raising robo calls a valuable governing skill.


  10. here we go again. it must be Friday…. distraction day.  anything to keep us from focusing on the march, global catastrophe or salaciously titillating interviews by ex-girl friends


    Trump says he is ‘considering a veto’ of $1.3 trillion spending bill approved by Congress that would have staved off a shutdown

  11. The only thing that makes me think Joe might be a viable candidate is that he’s not THAT much older than SFB (4 years). One term would have him serving the equivalent to SFB’s 2nd term agewise – some would say that’s too old. It would pit 2 guys with badly covered bald spots against each other. Oh, the images.

  12. Patd, congrats to the ‘noles.  Impressive game. Glad I didn’t bet on a bracket – I’d be done.

  13. I think a strong message for Joe would be, “Give me one term to clean up Trump’s mess and repair relations around the world.” Doing that job quickly is not for a newbie on a steep learning curve. Biden’s age and experience could actually be an asset.

  14. If trumpty dumpty vetos that spending bill….  he can’t blame the shutdown on the Democrats.  It”ll be his and his alone.

    yeah… let’s nominate Biden and his running mate Tom Steyer/and or Bernie Sanders…  2 old white guys…  that’ll excite the hell outta the youngsters…

    ps… if you need the flaming tildes to understand my tone…  good luck with your life…

  15. While everyone still has their speakers plugged-in per Bink’s admonition last night, here’s a brilliant Mozart concerto for your delight.


  16. Decent weather for the march tomorrow, snow is gone and no rain: Partly cloudy. High 49F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph.

  17. And what time does SFB depart for Mar-s-Lago?  The March that should matter (assuming the twit doesn’t go to his NJ property for his weekly vacation) is the one in West Palm Beach. If he’s in Bedminster, Somerville is close by.  No one will be in DC to hide in their offices. That said, I hope the DC march is well attended – if any gets TV coverage it will be that one.

  18. Pogo…   😉

    and MSNBC has said they will be covering the DC march all day tomorrow.

    Craig… your comment about a newbie having too steep a learning curve to clean up the mess is a good point.  But that’s a risk I’m willing to take…   the Dems losing in 2020 is not.

  19. I like Hickenlooper, but he is from a pothead state and that is going to be a problem for some voters.

    Cuomo has his own problems.

    As much as we need someone with executive experience, I think we will be looking at Critter to fill both halves of the Dem ticket.

    If Occupy and MeToo and MarchForOurLives and DACA families (those born here who will be able to vote) and elders who want to safeguard SS/Medicare/Medicaid all team up in 2018 and 2020, there won’t be any way for anyone to steal the election.  No hanging chads/recounts/SOTUS rulings/russkies/FB.

    And, the MSM MUST do its job and give stories more than a 15-second soundbite. Seriously, STOP with the rehashing of cold case crimes and COVER WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW!

  20. I think that feller from Ohio would make an effective moderate Democrat and a good president

  21. Mitch Landrieu – I think he would be very good

    I think the list is lame not very imaginative and not very thoughtful and Oprah is not running.

  22. Let’s add the blue Power Ranger to the list.  Is that imaginative enough for you, crackers?

    I think it’s a realistic, early list.

    Who would you add, please? Oh, OK. Mitch. Well, yes he would be a Southerner who might win over the racist contingent shoring up Trumpsky.

  23. Something extra in your coffee this morning?   I don’t see any racist label that fits Landrieu in fact the opposite seems true.

  24. No joe
    He was perfect for Connor Lamb’s district   not too many others and his little reprisal of offering to take Trump out beside the woodshed was beyond tone deaf
    He’s avuncular, not presidential — ugh
    Oh yeah Mr. MBNA and his son Hunter’s payments make Ben Carson’s son look like a piker. Why not bring back bring back Jim Webb?
    He’s a mansplaining patronizing kind of guy and it gets him in trouble every time. Do you want a candidate who makes insulting jokes based on stereotypes and doesn’t understand why people are upset? Every mistake gets labeled “just a joke” and that’s how I feel about his attempts to become president.
    The election wasn’t lost to Democrats based on blue-collar economic issues and Joe Biden isn’t the right guy in any case.
    There is lots he can do to be helpful but as soon as he gets into the race, he will be toxic.

  25. too bad Jennifer Granholm former gov of mich was born in Canada otherwise she’d fit the experienced exec requirement.


    ducking when I write this, how ’bout George Clooney ?

    don’t laugh, he’s head and shoulders above the twit…..  but then that’s a pretty low bar isn’t it?

  26. If Bernie runs, I’ll be in jail for making sure he has broken body parts. (optional flaming tildes)

  27. I just don’t have enough knowledge about many of the local possibilities. The Ohioan that I admire is Kasich; at 65 he’s at the end of the reasonable age span as I see it. The Castro brothers received positive press last time around.

  28. The repubs running in 2020 who have a reasonable chance at getting nominated :

    1. ryan; 2. mapleleaf cruz; 3. kasich, 4. rubio; 5. corker; 6. r. scott . (I expect trump & pence shall be ineligible)

    Indies :

    1. Bernie; 2. flake.

  29. Maybe Deval Patrick and Klobuchar would be better, but Booker is a star, there is no doubt about it.

    Amy’s dad made a living as a sports writer, and Amy can talk hockey in ME, MI, and WI, basketball in NC, KY, and IN, and football in PA, OH, and TX. She could even yakk baseball diplomacy in Korea, Japan, and Cuba !

  30. x-r, why not klobuchar/ booker?   are we still not ready yet?  it’s been a hundred years now… too soon?

  31. XR

    I like Deval Patrick as well.  I think there needs to be a woman on the ticket and I don’t like either Harris or Gillibrand.

  32. more grist to grind in the Mueller mill

    ny times via msn:
    WASHINGTON — The political action committee founded by John R. Bolton, President Trump’s incoming national security adviser, was one of the earliest customers of Cambridge Analytica, which it hired specifically to develop psychological profiles of voters with data harvested from tens of millions of Facebook profiles, according to former Cambridge employees and company documents.
    Mr. Bolton’s political committee, known as The John Bolton Super PAC, first hired Cambridge in August 2014, months after the political data firm was founded and while it was still harvesting the Facebook data.
    In the two years that followed, Mr. Bolton’s super PAC spent nearly $1.2 million primarily for “survey research,” which is a term that campaigns use for polling, according to campaign finance records.
    But the contract between the political action committee and Cambridge, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times, offers more detail on just what Mr. Bolton was buying. The contract broadly describes the services to be delivered by Cambridge as “behavioral microtargeting with psychographic messaging.”
    To do that work, Cambridge used Facebook data, according to the documents and two former employees familiar with the work.
    “The data and modeling Bolton’s PAC received was derived from the Facebook data,” said Christopher Wylie, a data expert who was part of the team that founded Cambridge Analytica. “We definitely told them about how we were doing it. We talked about it in conference calls, in meetings.”
    Cambridge Analytica, which rose to prominence through its work with Mr. Trump’s 2016 election campaign, has found itself confronting a deepening crisis since reports this past weekend in The New York Times and The Observer of London that the firm had harvested the data from more than 50 million Facebook profiles in its bid to develop techniques for predicting the behavior of individual American voters.
    Cambridge’s so-called psychographic modeling techniques, which were built in part with the data harvested from Facebook, underpinned its work for Mr. Trump’s campaign in 2016, setting off a furious — and still unsettled — debate about whether the firm’s technology worked. The same techniques were also the focus of its work for Mr. Bolton’s super PAC.
    “The Bolton PAC was obsessed with how America was becoming limp wristed and spineless and it wanted research and messaging for national security issues,” Mr. Wylie said.
    “That really meant making people more militaristic in their worldview,” he added. “That’s what they said they wanted, anyway.”
    [….a lotta detail here…]
    Months later, the relationship between Cambridge and the Bolton PAC had grown so close that the firm was writing up talking points for Mr. Bolton. In an email dated Oct. 1, 2014, Cambridge staff outlined a few sentences that Mr. Bolton could use to describe the work the new firm was doing for his super PAC.
    “It’s not just about how much you spend. It’s also about how smart you spend,” the email advised Mr. Bolton to say.
    “One way we’re doing that is by enlisting an outside firm” — Cambridge Analytica — “to provide deepdive research into who makes up our audience of target voters,” it continued. “We are producing ads specifically designed for voters of a certain personality and demographic profile. So if you’re a young woman in New Hampshire with a specific kind of personality and a particular set of issues that you care about, our research allows us to connect with that voter in a way that truly resonates with her.”
    The subject line of the email: “Did Bannon come back to you on this?”

  33. Far-Right Furious After Trump Signs Trillion Dollar Spending Bill: ‘You’ll Be Impeached’

    “I looked very seriously at the veto. I was thinking about doing the veto,” he said. “But because of the incredible gains that we’ve been able to make for the military, that overrode any of our thinking.”
    “I say to Congress, I will never sign another bill like this again,” he added. “I’m not going to do it again. Nobody read it. It’s only hours old. Some people don’t even know what’s in it.”

    Follow Follow @AnnCoulter

    “ I will never sign another bill like this again”

    Yeah, because you’ll be impeached.

    10:42 AM – 23 Mar 2018


  34. don’t forget sally yates.  she also has had exec experience (a lot more than some of those senators named above).

    excerpt from wiki:
    She rose to First Assistant U.S. Attorney in 2002 and to Acting U.S. Attorney in 2004. In the U.S. Attorney’s office she held leadership positions under both Republican and Democratic administrations.[13]
    President Barack Obama nominated Yates to be U.S. Attorney in the Northern District of Georgia. She was confirmed by the Senate on March 10, 2010.[10] Yates was the first woman to hold that position in the Northern District of Georgia.[8] During her time as a U.S. Attorney, Yates was appointed by Attorney General Eric Holder to serve as Vice Chair of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee.[10]
    Deputy Attorney General[edit]

    On May 13, 2015, the United States Senate voted 84–12 (4 not voting) to confirm Yates as Deputy Attorney General of the United States, the second-highest-ranking position in the Justice Department;[15][16] during her confirmation hearing, when questioned by Senator Jeff Sessions if she would disobey a president’s unlawful orders, she responded that she would have an obligation to follow the law and the Constitution, and to give independent legal advice to the president.[17] She served under Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who took office shortly before Yates’s confirmation.[8][18]
    As Deputy Attorney General, Yates was responsible for the day-to-day operations of the Justice Department, which included approximately 113,000 employees. In 2015, she authored the policy, known as the “Yates memo”, prioritizing the prosecution of executives for corporate crimes.[19][20] During the final days of the Obama administration, she oversaw the review of 16,000 petitions for executive clemency, making recommendations to the President.[21]

    then she became actin ag, told the truth to the twit, stood up for the constitution and got fired for it


  35. I know people I won’t vote for….  but I’m waiting to see who actually throws their hat in the ring and what they have to say as they campaign before I decide about my vote.  But of course…  speculation is fun.

    ps…  Al Franken is the only old white guy I’d consider.

  36. Pat,

    I’d go for Klobuchar at the top, although her exec experience is limited to running the Hennepin County Attorney office.

    At 70 Christine Gregoire is not exactly the youth wave, either. Same with Shirley Franklin at 72. They were both excellent leaders.

  37. RR

    Al Franken is the reason I put Klobuchar on my ticket and rejected Gillibrand and Harris … Naked ambition offends me.  They all suffer from Potomac Fever, but a little modesty in the pursuit goes a long way.

  38. Sally Yates is certainly qualified.  Of course these days I’ll take anyone who can construct a grammatically correct and accurately spelled sentence.  Is the White House gardener available?

  39. The weather is messing with the DC eagle nests.  Fortunately, Liberty and Justice had two new chicks so they had a rough time keeping the little ones warm:


    Right now First Lady & Mr. P don’t have eggs and may have abandoned the arboretum nest for the year due to the heavy snow earlier in the week.


  40. BB, you want depressing?  I’ve got depressing.  From the Aaron Blake Wapo article the list came from:

    1. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders

    Another list; anotherBernie at the top. Until he signals he may not run or gets into real trouble, Sanders has the best chance. But that doesn’t mean he’s got great odds. Given that we could see 15 or even 20 serious candidates, I don’t see the front-runner having any more than a 20-25 percent chance of winning. And if things started today, that’s where I’d put Sanders.(Previous: 1)

    To me that is depressing. But Sally Yates – I like that idea. It would definitely put a little piss in SFB’s corn flakes (hmmm, but he might like that).

  41. I challenge that anyone can say anything about candidates at this point.  Any surveys are just showing name recognition.   No Bernie (No Joe either)

  42. crackers – I was sort of agreeing with you (that he is a good addition to the list) & also bring up the point that just because he’s a Southerner doesn’t mean he’ll win over the racists.  No coffee this morning, nothing “in” it.

  43. OMG, Mann Coulter is on the pro-impeachment side?  Somehow, it feels kinda icky now.  Way to ruin impeachment for me.

  44. I really want Eleanor Roosevelt and Barbara Jordan. Unfortunately, the public is prejudiced against them just because they are dead. People probably would object to an all female all dead ticket. sigh

  45. Simutaneously adorable and horrifying that you good people think that the fascists in power will allow another free and fair Presidential election.  They’d blow up the whole planet before they’d do that, and might, anyway, just because they can.  The entire federal government has been infiltrated and compromised.

  46. X-R

    Look at the popularity of the Walking Dead  I think you may be on to something

    That would be a great ticket

  47. Will SFB make a grab -https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062696199/can-it-happen-here

    cass sunstein

  48. Trump: “It’s very tough to beat a plane when you can’t see it.”

    Maybe that’s why he wants an invisible wall.  That damned thing will be impenetrable.

  49. With those hilarious jokes you should just make your own account and stop using your mom’s.

    I’m going to go clean your vomit off my eyeballs.  Have a good day, else!

  50. I’m glad that Biden met with parents and students from Parkland – and they appreciated meeting with him and his understanding of grief.

  51. So cool that the person who started the pussy hats also started the eye gloves for tomorrow’s march, letting politicians know that eyes of America are upon them.

  52. Yep, so obsessed and thrilled that I interacted instead of scrolling by the name, which is what I usually do.   Go in peace.

  53. Joe can run.

    if Joe can win, he wins; if Joe don’t win he loses……I still kind of somehow like him a lot.

  54. no joe
    maybe they can let him into the x president’s club there isn’t an x-vp club

  55. This is big: Citigroup is deciding how and to whom its customers sell firearms.

    Prayer vigil at National Cathedral right now.

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