Debate Night, Part 2

Starts at 9pm ET on NBC.

Tonight: Michael Bennet, senator from Colorado •Joe Biden, former vice-president •Pete Buttigieg, mayor of South Bend, Indiana •Kirsten Gillibrand, senator from New York •Kamala Harris, senator from California •John Hickenlooper, former governor of Colorado •Bernie Sanders, senator from Vermont •Eric Swalwell, representative from California •Marianne Williamson, activist •Andrew Yang, tech entrepreneur

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78 thoughts on “Debate Night, Part 2”

  1. Mr. C is a Bernie guy but he likes Elizabeth Warren and he thinks she did the best
    he thought Julian Castro did well
     

  2. Tulsi Gabard???? what is wrong with people  she sucks not to mention the cult mentality

  3. oh yea  people who read the Drudge report -ack ack ack
    Watching the opining on the debate I think Gov Insley did well.
     

  4. Another thing I appreciated about last night was Ohio Senator Tim Ryan saying that if Democrats don’t go back to being the party of working class people, all the plans being discussed would amount to nothing.   I don’t think he’ll be in the race much longer…   but, IMO, he did hit the nail on the head with that statement.

  5. wapo breaking news:

    Trump asks lawyers if census can be delayed, calls Supreme Court decision on citizenship question ‘totally ridiculous’

    In a tweet, the president questioned whether the constitutionally mandated census could be delayed “no matter how long.”

     

    The Supreme Court had put on hold the Trump administration’s plan to add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census, saying it had provided a “contrived” reason for wanting the information.
    This is a developing story. It will be updated.

     

  6. My Prime issue. The Statue of Liberty and what she has stood for all these decades. Quite simply, don ‘t let Trump manipulate the Supremes into holding Ms Liberty down as he mounts and penetrates her.

  7. Looking forward to seeing how Harris handles herself.  Biden just bores me silly, but he is acceptable as a candidate otherwise.  Yang is worth listening to even if he doesn’t stand a chance of nomination.  I still haven’t forgiven Gillibrand for leading the Al Franken kangaroo court, but would vote for her if I had to.  

  8. pogo,  all is not lost in some states. take heart with this from charlotte observer:

    Updated with developments on June 27, 2019.

     

    North Carolina’s nationally watched gerrymandering lawsuit won’t change the political landscape for the 2020 elections and beyond, after a U.S. Supreme Court decision Thursday.

     

    But another case might.

    [….]

    The fight against partisan gerrymandering in North Carolina is not over yet. Common Cause v. Lewis, contesting the 2017 state House and Senate districts, goes to court on July 15.

     

    This case, too, recently made national news, after computer files belonging to a deceased Republican strategist, Thomas B. Hofeller, were turned over to the challengers in the case.

     

    While the Republicans lost six seats in the state Senate and 10 seats in the state House in the “blue wave” of 2018, ending their supermajorities in both chambers, they still maintained a majority in both.

     

    Republican legislators unsuccessfully tried to move the case to federal court, saying in a news release that they did not want the case to be heard in North Carolina because they thought the judges there may be too liberal to give them a fair trial. The state Supreme Court currently leans heavily Democratic; the appointment of Mark Davis to the court gave Democrats a 6-1 majority. In contrast, the U.S. Supreme Court has a majority of conservative-leaning justices.

     

    This case will go to trial in Wake County Superior Court, where the plaintiffs will ask for partisan gerrymandering to be ruled unconstitutional under the North Carolina Constitution.

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  9. Pat, it lacks the complicit justices holding the weeping Ms Liberty to the ground. In enos’ good cartoon, SFB looks like a young teen masturbating; he needs to be an adult embarked on a cruel assault.

  10. meanwhile, from the daily beast

    Paul Manafort appeared Thursday afternoon in Manhattan criminal court, the first time he’s appeared in public since being sent to prison in March. 

    Manafort, 69, looked haggard as he pleaded not-guilty to mortgage fraud charges—dressed in navy blue scrubs with white sneakers and his gray hair long and mussed. 

    As he walked with a slight limp into the courtroom, flanked by U.S. Marshals, Manafort barely reacted as someone in the crowd yelled “traitor.” 

    “Not guilty,” he said into the court microphone, sitting down and handcuffed while the rest of his counsel stood. Todd Blanche, his lawyer, told the Judge Maxwell Wiley his client wished to waive his right for pre-trial proceedings. 

    [….]

    Manafort was recently transferred from federal prison in Pennsylvania to the Manhattan Correctional Center. Prosecutors wanted Manafort to transported to New York’s Rikers island, where most federal inmates facing state charges are held. Instead, the Justice Department told the Bureau of Prisons they were concerned about his “health and personal safety” and argued “the arrangement will not have any impact on his state proceedings.” 

    Manhattan Correctional Center, which houses about 800 inmates, has been home high-profile inmates like mob boss John Gotti and Bernie Madoff, who was convicted of orchestrating the biggest Ponzi scheme in history. The federal correctional center is also currently home to El Capo, notorious Mexican drug kingpin. 

    Manafort is expected back in Manhattan criminal court on Oct. 9.

  11. Yes, that’s closer. We also need visual evidence of The New Colossus plaque being carried away from the statue’s base.
    p.s. You work so hard for the greater good

  12. Klobuchar/Castro would make a nice team, but we’d prolly get more votes with at a token Protestant white male in the token spot. 
     

  13. Klobuchar has the midwest votes even in Trump districts.  You could be brave and go all female with Harris/Klobuchar or vice versa or all ethnic with Castro/Harris or vice versa.  

  14. MSNBC just brought up the damage done to Gillibrand because of Franken and whether she could recover from the anger she stirred up with her harsh necktie party demands.

     

  15. Politics tends to make me angry so I take refuge in David Hume.  If it was true more than 300 years ago and we survived, we will probably make it through again.

    Nothing appears more surprising to those who consider human affairs than the easiness with which the many are governed by the few.

    Where men are the most sure and arrogant, there they are commonly the most mistaken.

    This avidity alone, of acquiring goods and possessions for ourselves and our nearest friends, is insatiable, perpetual, universal, and dire.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  16. Hi – not gone, just not online a lot right now.  Busy life and long days means falling asleep in the blogger/vlogger recliner sometime around eight. If you want to see a “friendly” jellyfish take a look at the video I have up on my YouTube channel Buena Ventura Life.
     
    Harris/Klobuchar is a hard hitting.  I think the humour that Klobuchar spreads would be similar to what Biden did almost a generation ago under Obama.

  17. I have no interest in seeing Gabbard, Yang, Bernie, Williamson, Bennett, De Blasio, or Gilliland win the nominations. I’d tolerate Biden pretty well, about the same as Hickenlooper, Ryan, O’Rourke, Delaney, and Buttigieg.
    I’d prefer Klobuchar, Harris, Swalwell, Booker, Inslee, Warren, or Castro – in no particular order. 
    I think Harris and Swalwell would be a huge winner. The same goes for Warren or Klobuchar and Castro.
    America will not elect a man that they know is a rapist and a russian tool. “Anyone who hates dogs and babies” may be a funny joke line*, but it could kill this raging gangster’s presidential campaign.
    *Leo Rosten, 1939 Friars Club reference to W.C. Fields

  18. Mr Rosten also wrote a great detective novel with a Yiddish glossary in back
    SILKIE, book of the month.
    One of my favorite writer-guys…… 

  19. Can’t imagine who plans to end their campaign after last night and have no idea who has money to keep going and who doesn’t. 

  20. Just keept this one going.  I hope some strangers drop in.  Can we put up a sign that the natives are friendly?  

  21. Damn, I missed joe attacking SFB?  Will have to watch the 1st 30 minutes.  When I engaged Bernie! Was standing there sputtering. Nothing new there. Of the 10 minutes of this I’ve seen, give me Kamala. 

  22. Don’t know Craig.  Biden just feels “there”.  That isn’t enough to be either nominated or elected.  

  23. As I mentioned above:  Boring.  Once the primaries start it could get him nominated, but limping into the finish is not exactly a winning plan.  Kamala now taking him on and she is young and dynamic. 

     

     

  24. More workable format might be group of 5 candidates for 1 hour rather than 10 candidates for 2 hours. 10 people flatly too many.

  25. As a single mother during the “bussing” era in CA, I was opposed to bussing because I wanted to be able to get to my kids in an emergency.  The original Kansas City bussing case had to do with being bussed past a white neighborhood school to get to a black one. No child should be on a freeway for an hour instead of making their local school equal to one where they are being sent. 

     

  26. LOL, so it was move aside Grandpa night and some weren’t even polite about it. Bet the first thing Biden has to do after this is change his depends. Got the crap beat out of him I hear.
    Jack

  27. I think the torch may very well have been passed tonight. That will help last night candidates too. Hey time to break out your nasty woman T shirt. Prediction, if Kamala is the candidate there will be no presidential debates. Donnie boy won’t want to be in the same state as Harris let alone the same room.
    Kick ass lady, came to win.
    Jack

  28. Agree Jack. I was rooting for Uncle Joe but giving up. Primary calendar with California earlier than ever, plus if South Carolina blacks go for Kamala and she survives Iowa, NH this cake is baked. She put it in the oven tonight.

  29. I missed a bit of it, but what I saw was Kamala holding court. I like it. Bernie was  up there licking the tip of his little half pencil, making some notes on his little spiral notebook and holding up his hand, well, his finger, asking for either time to talk or permission to go to the bathroom. His time is past. Joe may be in the same boat. 

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