Trail Mix Presidential Poll – Part I

I am requesting your picks for our first Trail Mix Presidential Poll of the year 2019

Who do you support for president in 2020 ?

Republicans : Trump, Kasich, Weld, other (please name)

Democrats : Biden, Warren, Brown, Klobuchar, Booker, Castro, Harris, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Buttigieg, O’Rourke, other (please name)

Independents : Sanders, Schultz, other (please name)

[My top 5 are in order of preference : 1. Brown, T2. Booker, T2. Klobuchar, 4. Biden, and 5. Castro]

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45 thoughts on “Trail Mix Presidential Poll – Part I”

  1. At this early point in the presidential season I am going with:

    Klobuchar
    Harris
    Booker
    Bennet (still deciding, but is a media favorite for some reason)
    ?

    The rest of the cohort are just not what I want.

  2. I like Klobuchar, Harris, Castro, Beto and S. Brown (the last 2 haven’t announced yet).

    Rick and I are leaving on our annual winter vacation up north.  Rick will ski and I will read and give the hot tub lots of action.  Pogo…  I’ll wave to your friends in Campton on the way up and say a prayer for you while in Lahouts.  I’ll post from up there from time to time.

     

     

  3. I’m hoping for a dark horse candidate at the last moment to gallop in from out of nowhere, to run a swift decisive race in primaries without harm to any of the other candidates, to energize voters across party lines, and to overwhelm the media by taking all positive light away from the twit.

    although all of the announced senators are presidential material, I would rather for now they concentrate on the problems before the country and work harder in their senatorial posts where they can really accomplish a lot more good.

  4. Not locked down yet, but as of now:

    Klobuchar, Castro, Harris, Booker and toss in S. Brown should he declare.

     

  5. from aaron blake at wapo thursday:

    Over the course of his testimony on Wednesday, Michael Cohen said many troubling things about President Trump. He said he was a racist. He said he was a cheat. He accused Trump of committing a number of felonies.

     

    But as far as the future of the United States is concerned, he arguably saved the worst for last. In his closing statement — so late that many probably missed it — he said this: “Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, that there will never be a peaceful transition of power, and this is why I agreed to appear before you today.”

     

    This is a prospect that has been floated before. In fact, as a political journalist, I can tell you it’s probably the question I get asked the most. And here was a man who knows Trump very well suggesting it’s a concern that is warranted.

    It’s 100 percent speculation, yes, but it’s not completely baseless. Remember toward the end of the 2016 election when everyone, including, apparently, Trump, thought he was about to lose? Trump spent weeks alleging voter fraud among voters who hadn’t even cast ballots. He even suggested if he lost, there could be no other explanation.

     

    In light of this, critics pressed him to promise to accept the results of the election. He declined, even using it to provoke further.

     

    “Ladies and gentlemen, I want to make a major announcement today,” he said Oct. 20, 2016, in Ohio. “I would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters, and to all of the people of the United States, that I will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election . . . “

     

    He paused for effect.

    “. . . If I win.”

     

    It bears emphasizing that Trump said he was reserving the right to challenge the results through the legal system, and only if it wasn’t “a clear election result.” But this is the president who has waged an effort to undermine judges who decide things he doesn’t like. And he’s alleged a vast conspiracy among law enforcement to take him down. If the voters vote him out in part based upon that evidence — or if that process itself leads to impeachment and removal from office — is the guy who said this is a “witch hunt” just going to walk away and accept that verdict?

    […]

    But the potentially ominous part of this isn’t about the (very low) odds of success; it’s what would happen in the meantime. If Trump won’t leave, and his base feels aggrieved, what if he stirs a popular uprising of some sort? Things could get messy, even as he would probably never hold power.

    […]

    Cohen isn’t a constitutional scholar, nor is he a political expert, so he can’t know how unlikely this would be to succeed. It’s also possible he was saying this for effect after a long day of testimony. But lots of people were eager to believe the things he was saying Wednesday for the very reason that he knows Trump better than all but a handful of people. His view of Trump’s character on this point would seem difficult to totally discount.

     

    It’s easy to dismiss Trump’s attacks on elections and the investigations of his presidency as Trump merely being provocative and trying to play a political game. Cohen seems to think there is more at work here.

  6. “Isn’t it true that President Trump misled at best or, at worst, lied under oath [in a Fort Lauderdale case deposition]?” Rep. Harley Rouda (D-CA) asked Cohen.

    ADVERTISING

    “Yes,” Cohen answered without hesitation.

     

  7. bink,  Pelosi?

    that wouldn’t take an election  and who knows, things happen.

    it has been said “god works in mysterious ways”

  8. Yup, Patd- Pelosi.  A proven leader, and a better candidate than any of the pretenders mentioned, above.

     

    My question is: what are the chances that she’d declare?  0%?  10%? Dumb question?

  9. Democrats try to field the most competent, potentially-transformative leader possible.

     

    Republicans field whatever schmuck can get elected so they can ram their shitty policies down the American people’s throats.

     

    Here i am, choking.

  10. AMY

    Sherrod Brown

    no to Joe the worst possible pick

    Goops Bill Weld -he will give SFB the fat ass golfing president a very hard time but with good humor I think he could make real dent in SFB’s armor

  11. No to Joe don’t be fooled  he is the weakest and will be as he was in the past a horrible candidate Mr. MBNA and all the banks he protected banks not consumers

    He is the candidate of old white men the last gasp of holding on to power. Terrible candidate and he would be a terrible president.

  12. Bernie sounds good – he is hitting the highlights  but basically  income equality especially when the rich have all the benefits and are not paying taxes

    He just said — hey you rich guy your free ride is over (slightly paraphrased)

    He was good and in some ways I wish I could support him but I cannot.

  13. X-R

    I agree but Weld is very appealing and may give strength to more moderate goops to just say no to the current creepiness of the Republican Party

  14. x-r

    I responded to you before you posted  — I am apparently a mind reader

  15. Ms Cracker,

    Never trump repub : Mr Weld, every thoughtful republican is behind you.

    Mr Weld : That won’t get me a single delegate.

    [Apologies to Adlai Stevenson]

  16. Thanks for the Harper’s article about Biden, linked above, KGC.

    A damning criticism of Biden’s legislative and executive record, I don’t see how a single Democrat could support his candidacy for POTUS, after reading it.

  17. Mr Bink, I don’t know why Ms Pelosi would want to be demoted. A skillful Speaker can be more powerful than a president, and she has the necessary skill. In my admittedly arrogant opinion she is the best Speaker of the House since John McCormack. Round it up to the best speaker in 50 years.

  18. …because I’m sick of incompetent Presidents and the damage they cause, xrep!  That’s why!

    (I’m taking her ego and resumé out of the discussion, for my purposes)

  19. Nothing i have ever heard from Bernie makes me believe he is an intelligent person. Honestly, i think he’s a dullard, i wouldn’t even let him borrow my car- i think he’s that stupid.

    His supporters are even dumber and as uninformed as the day is long.

  20. I think if  Nancy P became president by default — she would be good.  But I agree with X-Rep  why would she want to be president when she is so successful as speaker  better for her and us

  21. The Republicans at CPAC are unbelievable  they all think that SFB style is the way to go– Some loon just called AOC a watermelon — green on the outside   – RED RED RED on the inside  omg  they are all going down is the same boat

  22. kgc, wonder what they mean when they say “RED RED RED on the inside” since the term being a “red” used to mean someone in cahoots with Russia.

    their leader is the cahoot in chief as regards Russia. 

  23. KC, we’ll agree to disagree on Biden. Won’t matter, he’s not gonna win the moms anyway and I’ll vote for whoever does.

    Mark my words. Bernie’s going to fuck up the nominating process and detract from Dem success against SFB.

  24. Bernie is a problem  I know a lot of his supporters around here and they have no sense of humor about him

  25. No Bernie no way. Last I heard he wasn’t even a Democrat much less a good candidate. As much as anyone he is responsible for Trump. In the end it may be best for all other viable candidates to ignore him.

  26. speaking of Bernie and Russia, has there been any more info reported than what was in those mueller indictment filings about Russian efforts to tip scale for him in 2016?  are they helping again (maybe some of the $$ that poured in on announcement day)?

    see usatoday  feb 2018:

    A 37-page indictment resulting from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation shows that Russian nationals and businesses also worked to boost the campaigns of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Green party nominee Jill Stein in an effort to damage Democrat Hillary Clinton.

     

    and see 2017 politico story:

    Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein was the beneficiary of at least one of the Russian-bought political ads on Facebook that federal government officials suspect were intended to influence the 2016 election.

     

    Other advertisements paid for by shadowy Russian buyers criticized Hillary Clinton and promoted Donald Trump. Some backed Bernie Sanders and his platform even after his presidential campaign had ended, according to a person with knowledge of the ads.

     

  27. pogo, did you see this?

    cnn via msn

    An anti-Muslim poster associating US Rep. Ilhan Omar with the September 11 attacks appeared Friday at a Republican-sponsored public gathering at the West Virginia statehouse, creating a firestorm of controversy that apparently led one official to resign.

    The poster, featuring pictures of Omar and the terror attacks in a fashion of an Internet meme, was displayed behind a table during WVGOP Day at the Capitol, an event in which the West Virginia Republican Party had invited the public to the Capitol’s upper rotunda.

    The state GOP denounced the sign, saying that an exhibitor had put it up without its knowledge and that it demanded its removal.

    Omar, a Minnesota Democrat who became one of the first two Muslim women to be elected to Congress last year, branded it as “the GOP’s anti-Muslim display.”

    “No wonder why I am on the ‘Hitlist’ of a domestic terrorist and ‘Assassinate Ilhan Omar’ is written on my local gas stations,” the Somali-American posted to Twitter on Friday. “Look no further, the GOP’s anti-Muslim display likening me to a terrorist rocks in state capitols and no one is condemning them!”

    Her mention of a hit list refers to recent news in which a US Coast Guard officer was accused of writing a hit list of prominent Democrats and journalists. Court documents say the congresswoman was named on that list.

    Friday’s incidents came as Omar has come under criticism from members of both parties for suggesting that pro-Israel groups effectively buy off politicians and push allegiance to a foreign country.

    The poster created tumult at the Capitol in Charleston, some 750 miles away from Omar’s Minneapolis-area congressional district.

    A woman who was exhibiting literature at a table in the rotunda during the WVGOP Day at the Capitol put up the poster, CNN affiliate WCHS reported. The exhibitor’s name wasn’t immediately available.

    With images and text, the display suggested that Omar’s election is proof that Americans have forgotten the September 11 attacks.

    The poster’s top picture was of the World Trade Center’s twin towers engulfed in smoke and flames, topped with the words, ” ‘Never forget’ — you said.”

    The bottom picture was of Omar, accompanied by the words, “I am the proof — you have forgotten.”

    Arguments ensued in the rotunda over the poster, involving even lawmakers who were in the building for a House session, WCHS reported.

    [continues]

  28. Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party.  He might join, but there is no guarantee.

    Interesting (maybe) day at CPAC, hate mongers heaven, is that SFB went off on a couple of hours rant.  Hitler did the same.  Not really comparing a dictator wannabe with a real dictator, but just saying.

  29. bbronc, prolonged ranting seems to be major part of the dictatorial persona –  Mussolini, Castro, Adolph, et al

     

    [Bernie?]

  30. “Red” refers to Communism, patd, and contemporary Russia is a capitalist-kleptocracy, not a communist state.  The same could be said about the United States.

    Not surprising Republicans would use the racially-loaded “watermelon” imagery to serve as a double-entendre.  They think they’re so clever.  We get it- you’re racists.

    Don’t underestimate the danger posed by potential Trump authoritarianism.  If he doesn’t achieve his goal of becoming king, he’ll serve as the blueprint for the one that does, just like Caesar provided a model for Augustus.

  31. Patd,  yes, that was on REPUBLICAN DAY at the state capital. I think SFB had the largest margin of victory in WV than in any other stare, and people here hate Muslims and Hispanics- except those Hispanics who work in Mexican restaurants and st King’s New York Pizza. I mean they really hate them. This was not surprising.

  32. So, some imbecile, no doubt from a red state, called Rep. Ihan red on the inside. Also no doubt, he meant that she’s a secret ripuplican. The aggregate iq of cpac must be below zero.

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