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How fitting. To lie in state is the least we can do. There is a certain sadness to it that I am at a loss to explain.
Yes Jace. His passing is profound.
So who in the cabinet (or residence) told SFB not to be the ass he always is regarding GHWB’s death and arrangements. Please god tell me he isn’t speaking at the service.
I wrote a long and wonderful farewell to Lt. j.g. Bush (for those who served I prefer to tell the world their rank). Unfortunately, it went off into the bit bucket somewhere.
President Bush I was probably a decent man, I am ignoring his time as CIA head and when as president he could have done something about HIV/AIDS, as it was evident it was infecting people who were not just “gay”. His death does represent the last of the generations born early in the 20th century. A group who knew the pain of WWI and WWII. His dedication to public service was very good. He could have gone off into business or some other venture.
He liked public service. Many describe his enjoyment of competition. Politics is a contact sport and competition is the name of the game.
R.I.P. Lt. j.g. Bush
Pence spoke at the rotunda ceremony. Trump will have to sit through the cathedral and be ignored as much as possible.
Known so far: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/george-h-w-bushs-funeral-eulogies-from-george-w-bush-jon-meacham-others
I have a special affinity for the Lincoln Catafalque. Took my lunch there where it resides under the Rotunda many days while a Senate page.
I was glad when Clinton was elected, but I never had any animus towards HW except for two things. In order to run with Reagan, he changed his position on abortion and then setting up Cheney to become VP under W.
Now it is just sad that the WW II presidents only have Carter yet to go. He seems to have been a genuinely decent man and the GOP has gone severely downhill since he left office.
I was tired of the Regan years shortly after they started. I remember thinking that HW was a nice down to earth change after the glitz and hype . Looking back on it he was probably what the country needed at the time. Always wondered if he could have bested Clinton in a head to head match up, but the presence of The nut job Perrott made it impossible to know.
FL Sen. Bob Graham showed me the cantafalque. We lunched together there many times.
There’s a plaque outside the Catafalque listing all it bore since Lincoln. Another must now be added.
This is a week to pretend Trump doesn’t exist.
All SFb has to do is sit down and stfu. I don’t even want to see him standing with former presidents as his presence will only serve to diminish a sacred and honored tradition. There are men that are fit to be called President of the United States. H W was among them. Trump is not and never will be.
I wish 43 would swallow his chewing gum before going out in public
I remember seeing a picture– probably taken by someone from Matthew Brady’s shop–of the Lincoln catafalque, and reading about how four Union generals (or maybe one admiral; David Farragut a possibility) stood at attention at the four corners, with Grant at the head. Sad and beautiful image.
Did the catafalque not have to be repaired for JFK, though? Or am I confused as usual?
Someone must have hit SFB upside the head and told him what is going to happen this week. I cannot imagine him willingly making Wednesday a day of mourning and shutting the government down for the day. As mentioned many times, how is he going to make 41’s week into his own?
bbronc, probably fart during the eulogies. even without activating one, he will be a big stink just by being there.
Baker re GHWB:
“Really, a beautiful man…. Some will say, ‘Well, he was too soft to be president. He wasn’t tough enough …’ He was plenty tough. But he was thoughtful, and he was kind and he was considerate. He was lovely.”
George H.W. Bush makes his last journey to Washington
The public viewing in the Rotunda will continue Tuesday and will end at 7 a.m. Wednesday.
A funeral is scheduled for 11 a.m. Wednesday at Washington National Cathedral, as the Bush family requested.
After a departure ceremony at 10 a.m. at the Capitol, the former president’s body will be taken to the cathedral via motorcade that will move along streets including Constitution Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue, Massachusetts Avenue and Wisconsin Avenue.
The state funeral — based on the burial rite in the Episcopal Church’s Book of Common Prayer — will be led by the Rev. Michael Curry, presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church, the cathedral said.
Also participating will be the Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde, Episcopal Bishop of Washington; the Rev. Randy Hollerith, dean of Washington National Cathedral; and the Rev. Russell Levenson Jr., rector of St. Martin’s Episcopal Church in Houston.
Bush is to be eulogized by his son George W. Bush, as well as former Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney, former senator Alan Simpson and historian Jon Meacham, according to CNN.
The cathedral also hosted the state funerals of Ford in 2007, Reagan in 2004 and Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1969.
The cathedral also hosted the official burial service for Woodrow Wilson in 1924.
On Wednesday, Washington, D.C.’s National Cathedral will be filled with dignitaries for George H.W. Bush’s state funeral. Sunday though, the congregation heard from Bush biographer Jon Meacham, who was a guest preacher for a pre-planned event that took on additional meaning.Meacham opened his sermon with the same prayer Bush opened his inaugural address with on January 20, 1989. “There is but one just use of power and it is to serve people,” Bush said that day, and Meacham repeated it this morning.Meacham closed by telling the congregants, “Very few human beings could have written that prayer as well.”
Here is the full text of Bush’s Inaugural Prayer:
Heavenly father, we bow our heads and thank you for your love.
Make us strong to do your work, willing to heed and hear your will and write on our heart these words: use power to help people.
For we are given power not to advance our own purposes, nor to make a great show in the world, nor a name.
There is but one just use of power and it is to serve people.
Help us remember, Lord,
“For we are given power not to advance our own purposes, nor to make a great show in the world, nor a name. There is but one just use of power and it is to serve people.”
If he was so kind and gentle how could he stand to be around Lee Atwater?
I love Eternal Father, Strong to Save, and I am not religious. I heard it from time to time in church and at funerals – Gerald Ford’s and Ronald Reagan’s are the most clear recollections I have of it (pretty sure I didn’t listen to or watch the telecast of Nixon’s funeral) but first came to appreciate it when I watched Crimson Tide then again in Titanic. My dad was in the Navy in the waning days of WWII – never saw combat from what I can tell, but was a gunner on some sort of Navy plane, or at least that is what I remember being told when I was a kid, and being a sailor of sorts during the 80s, it struck a chord for me.
I used to hear that in the little church I attended 5 days a week, 9 months a year for 4 years, when I was a teen. Taught me that I must be Jewish but I always really dug the music.
Sturg, you bring up the preverbial “elephant”, and also there was Roger Ailes. I covered the 1988 campaign and consider it to be the beginning of our current nasty politics. Heck, I wrote a book about it. So far I’ve not seen anyone interview Michael Dukakis this week. Bet he’s got a different view about Bush’s “decency”.
Most of the faculty were WWII vets, some of them with some really heavy duty stuff in Europe and the South Pacific. There were a few “Major Burns” in the group, but mostly vets who had been thru the grinder. A unique experience, all in all.
I remember watching Bush, Ailes and Atwater violate ground rules for debate prep in California, staying in the room when Dukakis came in, laughing at him like silly school girls. Dukakis was so rattled. It was so below the line, really disgusting.
Lee Atwater……Columbia SC……
he had high hopes but he came to a bad end.
He got above his raisin’
Atwater ultimately apologized for his nasty politics. Don’t think Bush ever did.
The Willi Horton ad was the ultimate in low life attack ads. After that everything was fair game. Ailes and Atwater both deserve special places in hell for their work.
Always loved the Navy Hymn.
I think that the revisionists are probably already at work. One term presidents don’t usually fare very well historically speaking. Given the nasty and divisive nature of the current political climate I suspect that HW may do a little better.
And don’t forget that W used his daddy’s retreads in his administrations.
ps… I still hate Dick Cheney…
I second that. Cheney was a miscreant of the first order. I was sorry to hear that he was in attendance. No amount of scorn is adequate for that no good son of a bitch.
The apology was just part of his raisin’ coming back when he got sick, but it was too late.
The other thing that always concerned me was H.W. putting Dan Quayle a heartbeat away from the presidency. Not one of his best decisions. Talk about a deer in the headlights.
They all found out that what goes around comes around. Apologies or no.
no matter what sins of commission or omission by GHWB, he’s now an angel in comparison to DJT.
so are all the other predecessor pres. even dubya & tricky dicky.
that bar by which they’re measured seems to have sunk into the muck
It’s often said that if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.
At the end of his life, Sully the service dog was President George H.W. Bush’s. The yellow Labrador Retriever visited the president’s remains in the Capitol rotunda Tuesday alongside other people in wheelchairs that benefited from the Americans With Disabilities Act that Bush signed in 1990.
John Miller, the president and CEO of America’s VetDogs, said the Bush family contacted Walter Reed National Military Medical Center after the late president’s wife of 73 years, Barbara, died in April. America’s VetDogs chose Sully in part for his calm temperament.
“After Mrs. Bush’s death, general companionship was a big part of Sully’s job,” Miller said in a phone interview. “One of the things that I think was important to the president was the rest command, where Sully would rest his head on the president’s lap.”
Sully is 2 years old. He was named for retired airline pilot Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger III, who became famous for landing a damaged passenger jet on the Hudson River in 2009, saving everyone aboard.
Sully the dog achieved worldwide fame after a Bush family spokesman tweeted a photo of Sully laying by Bush’s flag-draped casket with the caption: “Mission completed.”
The pup traveled to Washington with the funeral retinue. And on Tuesday morning, officials issued a two-minute warning for Sully’s arrival in the Rotunda. Sully padded in, his leash held by Valerie Cramer, America’s VetDogs service dog program manager.
At her command, he lay down — and threw a glance over his shoulder at the photographers scrambling to get his photo. He didn’t seem fazed. Cramer then led him around the casket to sit among the others. After a few minutes, the procession headed out.
Sully is headed back to America’s VetDogs in Smithtown, New York, where he was born and trained, Miller said. Then he’ll go for training at Walter Reed to help brace, retrieve and otherwise help the veterans getting care there. Sully will be working with two dogs already in service at the veterans hospital, Sgt. Dillon and Sgt. Truman.
The dogs provided by America’s VetDogs are provided free of charge for a service that can cost upward of $50,000 to breed, train and place them, Miller said.
speaking of service dogs, remember this?
[from startribune in 2011]
Luis Carlos Montalvan, a former Army captain who inspired Sen. Al Franken’s first bill providing service dogs for disabled veterans, appeared on “The Late Show with David Letterman” Wednesday with his dog Tuesday.
Montalvan went on Letterman to promote his new book: “Until Tuesday: A Wounded Warrior and the Golden Retriever who Saved Him.” The book, a New York Times bestseller, tells the story of Montalvan’s struggle with post-traumatic stress disorder and how his service dog helped him cope with the illness.
Montalvan was the impetus behind Franken’s first piece of legislation as a senator in 2009, after the two had met months earlier at President Obama’s inauguration.
Franken’s bill, which passed as part of the 2010 defense authorization bill, created a pilot program for about 200 disabled military veterans to get service dogs. Franken spokesman Ed Shelleby said the dogs are starting to be paired with veterans this month.
[and later in 2017 on cnn]
For eight years, Senator Al Franken (D-MN) has been fighting for funding on a legislative bill that would provide more service dogs to veterans, especially those suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. CNN’s Jake Tapper reports.
I’ve been wracking my brain, trying to think of something good to write about ghwbush, and finally came up with, he’s dead.
Remember, saddam is worse than hitler ? So, first he covered for saddam’s use of poison gas, then he invited the base turd to conquer Kuwait, and then he allowed saddam to gas civilians in the north and south.
Compared to these moves, buddying up to ailes, atwater, and murdoch is small spuds.
Looks like trump’s trade deal with China is a bust… ~~~ aren’t we all tired of winning yet~~~
Dow Plunges 799 Points on Trade, Slowdown Fears
Poobah sez, “Atwater ultimately apologized for his nasty politics…” In 1979 the Hon. George Corley Wallace apologized to black churches for being a segregationist and said his stand in the schoolhouse door (it was actually the door to Foster Auditorium) was wrong and asked for the forgiveness of what he had referred to as the “black bloc” when he ran for Gov. in 1970 (Jimmy Carter called it one of the most racist campaigns he had ever seen). Three years later he ran for Gov and was elected and despite my skepticism of his sincerity about his reformation as a born again racial liberal, he was the first person to have two black people on a cabinet in Alabama. Ironically, althogh he preached segregation until his last run for guv, he established an extensive Jr. College system in AL to make higher education more accessible to the poorer citizens of AL, and on balance had (some) policies that didn’t match the rhetoric. Maybe Atwater was genuine in his apology, too, but I’m doubly skeptical of deathbed conversions if you know what I mean.
Atwater’s apology has about as much credence as SFB and Cheney apologizing for the ten deferments they have between them. Just doesn’t pass the smell test.
I just love it when the stock market slaps SFB in the face. I guess the art of the deal was lost on the Chinese.
You kinda have to love the irony of this. When it’s dem emails it’s a witch hunt. Now that it’s gop emails I suppose that it will be a serious issue. What I find interesting is how hard republicans sat on this to keep it from getting out.
The VA did a “study” regarding service dogs for PTSD and made the grand decision that service dogs do not help PTSD vets. As my VA shrink put it, ” your dog did more in six months than I did in six years”, which is nice, but my shrink did a hell of a lot to get me going again. Every day my dog is doing things for me which has been super good. This morning is an example, I was getting a little irritated in a meeting, I was not saying anything, yet my dog realized something was not good and came over to distract me and get me to refocus. In other ways her training has made my life livable.
Why would the VA not want to supply service dogs for PTSD? A guess is at $30K per dog and only maybe a million vets who could use a service dog.
Ok, I was watching Dateline White House and was reminded of one very good thing that came out of the GHWB administration- and I am dead serious- he signed The Americans with Disabilities Act into law. My sincere gratitude to him for that.
LBJ got Medicare and civil rights.
People are strange.
I am no fan of the either President Bush. In mitigation for GHWB, his enlisting in the Navy straight out of HS unbeknownst to his Mommy and Daddy, then his heading straight for combat by-way-of pilot training, forces me to be proud of him.
Clinton got TriCare-for-Life for aging military retirees and their spouses.
BB, if that’s the VAs assessment shame on them. That is a pittance. 3/4 of One submarine.
Pogo, it’s only $30,000M=$30B. That’s pocket change.
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