You called her a liar and defended the man. How is that an incentive for victims to speak up?

If “forceful” denials are all it takes then Trump and Roy Moore are completely innocent.

Craig Crawford

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  1. BTW, Happy Indigenous Peoples Day!

    By now, you probably know Christopher Columbus didn’t discover America. He wasn’t even the first European to do it.

    Somehow, the 15th-century Italian explorer still got his own national holiday. But more cities and states are scrapping Columbus Day to honor the people who were here first — and who suffered greatly after Columbus’ arrival.
    ust this year, at least a dozen US cities — including San Francisco and Cincinnati — decided to stop observing Columbus Day and will instead celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day on Monday.
    For Joe Curtatone, the mayor of Somerville, Massachusetts, the decision was easy.
    “Columbus Day is a relic of an outdated and oversimplified version of history,” the mayor wrote when announcing the decision last month.
    “This issue is a lot like the Confederate flag for southerners. As an Italian-American it feels good that there is an official holiday that is nominally about us. We are proud of our heritage. Yet the specifics of this holiday run so deep into human suffering that we need to shift our pride elsewhere.”
    Dozens of other cities and entire states, including Minnesota, Alaska, Vermont and Oregon, have also replaced Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day. Hawaii celebrates Discoverers’ Day on the second Monday of October. And South Dakota celebrates Native American Day.

    So what did Columbus really do?

    He wasn’t the first to discover the New World, the term generally used to refer to the modern-day Americas. Indigenous people had been living there for centuries by the time Columbus arrived in 1492.
    He wasn’t the first European in the New World, either. Leif Eriksson and the Vikings beat him to it five centuries earlier. …..


  2. Sam Stein:  Who is Taylor Swift?

    Howard Dean replies:  not to be catty, Sam, but she has 83 million followers.

    Sturgeone replies to HD and SS:     83 million and one.

  3. Susan Collins tried to be McCain and failed.  McCain would dance around and take his time to vote, saying many things which were “moderate” and then vote mostly conservative R, but he would get his ask to change bills.  Collins never put an ask on Kavie or McConnell or even the waiter at the restaurant.  She just played the media to get her ego stroked.

    No more I think. She played her hand and it was a loser.  She has never been on the cusp of greatness, usually more of the “woman vote” for the greedy old perverts.  No more.  She is now just another one of the gop.

    Happy Native American Day.  John “the Indian” Nanticoke on my Mother’s side and unknown Lake Superior Chippewa on my father’s side (unknown at least for now).

  4. craig, you still in florida?  looks like rain’s acomin’ your way as well as toward flatus & co.

  5. Notice to Florida panhandle folks: God loves you……He’s just being “mysterious” right now.

  6. Yes, PatD, at Southern Command and we’re doing some light prep, plus getting a few trees near the house trimmed back. Models show just periphery rain here, not much wind, but these Gulf storms have a way of shocking us, sometimes suddenly heading east when no one predicted it.

  7. Craig…  I think what Collins meant with that statement is that she hopes more women will report their attack right after the incident.

    To be in my crafts organization…  the League of NH Craftsmen…  one must live in NH or within 10 miles from the border.  Because we border Maine, there is a number of Mainers in the organization.  I’m friends with most of them on Facebook.  They are hopping mad and are encouraging all their FB friends to make a donation to the defeat Susan Collins fund.  On this Columbus Day I will join them.

  8. RR, why? So one of the most powerful women in Washington can concoct a reason to ignore them?Collins is delusional if she thinks that’s the legacy of what she did.

  9. 60 minutes segment last night really good:
    Senators Heitkamp and Collins – friends who disagreed about Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination
    One voted no and one voted yes, but both put their political futures in jeopardy

    [….this part in particular was revealing….]
    Scott Pelley: Your decision is not going to play well back home in Maine.
    Sen. Susan Collins: That is likely true. I did not try to weigh a political calculus to this decision. It’s too important for that. I just had to do what I think is right.
    Scott Pelley: A website went up over these last couple of weeks collecting funds for whoever your opponent may be in 2020. And the deal was that if you voted for Kavanaugh, then the credit card pledges would be processed. If you voted against Kavanaugh they wouldn’t process the credit card numbers and something over $2 million was raised.
    Sen. Susan Collins: This is a classic quid pro quo as defined in our bribery laws. They are asking me to perform an official act and if I do not do what they want, $2 million plus is going to go to my opponent. I think that if our politics has come to the point where people are trying to buy votes and buy positions, then we are in a very sad place.

    Collins doesn’t face reelection for two years, but Democrat Heitkamp’s situation is much more perilous. She’s up for reelection now. And in August, Judge Kavanaugh’s support in North Dakota was running 60 percent.
    Scott Pelley: At this moment, about four weeks before the election, you are running behind your Republican challenger in North Dakota. A political consultant would’ve told you that voting for Kavanaugh would’ve been better for you.
    Sen. Heidi Heitkamp: Yeah, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. I think that the politically expedient vote here was a, a yes vote.
    Scott Pelley: Why not then?
    Sen. Heidi Heitkamp: Because this isn’t about politics. This is about a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court. This is about a responsibility that we have as leaders, a responsibility that we have to exercise the judgment that we were sent here to exercise. I have too much respect for the institution of the Supreme Court. And I’m not gonna be the person who, um, makes a decision based on whether I get six more years in Washington DC. I’m going to make the decision based on what I think about the institutions.
    Scott Pelley: That may make you rare in the Senate.


  10. — and it was in McCaslin’s eyes too, he had only to look at McCaslin’s eyes and it was there, that summer twilight seven years ago, almost a week after they had returned from the camp before he discovered that Sam Fathers had told McCaslin: an old bear, fierce and ruthless not just to stay alive but ruthless with the fierce pride of liberty and freedom, jealous and proud enough of liberty and freedom to see it threatened not with fear not even alarm but almost with joy, seeming deliberately to put it into jeopardy in order to savor it and keep his old strong bones and flesh supple and quick to defend and preserve it; an old man, son of a Negro slave and an Indian king, inheritor on the one hand of the long chronicle of a people who had learned humility through suffering and learned pride through the endurance which survived the suffering, and on the other side the chronicle of a people even longer in the land than the first, yet who now existed there only in the solitary brotherhood of an old and childless Negro’s alien blood and the wild and invincible spirit of an old bear; a boy who wished to learn humility and pride in order to become skillful and worthy in the woods but found himself becoming so skillful so fast that he feared he would never become worthy because he had not learned humility and pride though he had tried, until one day an old man who could not have defined either led him as though by the hand to where an old bear and a little mongrel dog showed him that, by possessing one thing other, he would possess them both; and a little dog, nameless and mongrel and many-fathered, grown yet weighing less than six pounds, who couldn’t be dangerous because there was nothing anywhere much smaller, not fierce because that would have been called just noise, not humble because it was already too near the ground to genuflect, and not proud because it would not have been close enough for anyone to discern what was casting that shadow, and which didn’t even know it was not going to heaven since they had already decided it had no immortal soul, so that all it could be was brave even though they would probably call that too just noise. “And you didn’t shoot,” McCaslin said. “How close were you?”

    “I don’t know,” he said. “There was a big wood tick just inside his off hind leg. I saw that. But I didn’t have the gun then.
    —Wm Faulkner, “The Bear”

  11. RR, should have added Good For You getting into the fray. That was my last time getting hoodwinked by Collins, wasn’t all that surprised by her vote but the speech was Trumpian prevarication with a whisper.

  12. New WaPo poll: In 69 House battleground districts that are overwhelmingly held by Republicans, Dems lead overall by 50-46. In 2016, these same districts favored GOP by 15 points.

    “Among those who cite judicial nominations as extremely important, 50 percent are backing the Democrat in their district and 47 percent are backing the Republican.”

    No evidence here Kavanaugh is helping GOP. Maybe in the Senate races.

  13. Miami herald: 
    Hurricane Michael: A hellish October surprise in races for Florida governor, Senate?
    “This storm will be life-threatening,” Scott said during a briefing Sunday evening in Tallahassee. “And extremely dangerous.”
    It will, at the very least, be campaign-changing.

    With the storm approaching, Scott issued a state of emergency Sunday for 26 counties and began calling mayors and sheriffs. Gillum played out his Sunday schedule, attending a South Florida fundraiser with billionaire Michael Bloomberg before flying back home. Gillum said on Twitter that he canceled events early in the week in South Florida but did not speak to the press following a late afternoon event in Pembroke Pines with Bloomberg and Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
    Meanwhile, his campaign said it was sending out orders to suspend TV ads from Pensacola to Gainesville, and supporters pressured GOP nominee Ron DeSantis to do the same. In particular, the Republican Party of Florida was urged to take down ads blaming Gillum for the city’s rejection of help from Florida Power & Light utility crews following Hurricane Hermine in 2016 — the source of a Gillum-Scott spat during extended power outages that affected up to 100,000 customers.
    “The fabric of our state is made stronger by the way Floridians unite in these moments,” Democratic Congressman Charlie Crist, who served four years as a Republican Florida governor, tweeted Sunday. “Rather than ripping us apart with his negative campaign, Ron DeSantis should unite with the rest of Florida, take down his false attack ads, and help those facing down this coming storm.”
    The facts behind the Hermine dispute are complicated. Tallahassee’s utilities director made the call not to immediately accept FPL’s offer, in part because he deemed the city to have the resources it needed to address its problems. Gillum participated in meetings coordinating the response to the storm, but as the city’s weak mayor has no official administrative duties.
    Even so, Gillum is the face of the city. The situation is a good example of how volatile a hurricane can be for a politician and illustrates the baggage that already exists as Michael approaches.
    With the bad blood from Hermine still simmering, Gillum and Scott got on the phone Sunday afternoon at about 2:30 p.m. to discuss preparations for Michael, with Gillum’s staff saying he reached out to the governor…..
    As for DeSantis’ campaign, press secretary Dave Vasquez issued a statement praising Scott’s leadership during past hurricanes and saying that Panhandle campaign staff had been redirected to focus on helping their communities ahead of the storm.
    “We will continue to monitor the storm and will determine how the campaign can be of the most help to those preparing for the storm and will be impacted in the coming days,” Vasquez said.

  14. Craig…  Methinks it’s not just Collins legacy… it’s the entire gop’s legacy.  The excuse they all are hiding behind is that they believe Dr. Ford was sexually attacked as a teenager.  But it was so long ago that her memory is faulty and she didn’t report the attack at the time… so she has no proof it was actually Kavanaugh.

    Yup…  they are delusional to think that will save them in the upcoming mid-terms and beyond.

  15. I caught Collins’ interview with Chuck yesterday – as Poobah pointed out it was as senseless as any Trump interview trying to explain (in his case) his political contortions.  I listen to their respective word salads and wonder if they even listen to their own nonsense.  Glad this was your last time to be drawn in by Susan, Poobah.  At this point I hope we’re all old enough to know better.

    I went to Larry Sabato’s site after seeing  it mentioned here yesterday.  I’ve liked Sabato from the time I was in law school in Richmond and they would interview him on the local stations. He’s smarter than the average bear.

    And finally… Lindseay Graham plans to travel around and campaign for repug candidates because he is pissed about the treatment Kavanope got in the confirmation process?  The same Lindsey Graham that Trump said he knew nothing about 2 years ago – other than that he had asked for a campaign donation?  That Lindsey Graham?

  16. Lindsay Graham R-carpet salesman

    he’s about the same size as Noregard  maybe IMPOTUS thinks that people won’t notice the change


    Susan Collins  liar loser and ewww she believes Trump over Dr Ford   that should tell you everything you need to know about her   she is disgusting

  17. from the diary of Christopher Columbus (describing the natives):

    They … brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks’ bells. They willingly traded everything they owned… . They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features…. They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane… . They would make fine servants…. With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.

  18. First of all  it should have been called Queen Isabella Day – she hocked her jewels to pay for the trip

    and wasn’t Columbus actually Portuguese and ick based on the entry Craig posted — what a creep

  19. “With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”

    Columbus? are you sure, craig, that wasn’t mcmyrtle who said that?

  20. Winds of Change….
    please forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

    In three days, most people in The United States of America will have this message.
    This is one idea that really should be passed around.
    *Congressional Reform Act of 2013
    1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they’re out of office.
    2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
    3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
    4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
    5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
    6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
    7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 12/31/13. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.
    Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Don’t you think it’s time?
    If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just delete.

  21. So Trump voters if you aren’t stupid what is your problem  –

    this is pretty good

    For those I know who voted for Trump, this might explain some things: “Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?” The serious answer. Sigh; we do sometimes fall into that rhetorical trap, out of frustration, but if we were to be 100% honest with you we would admit that we find quite a few people on our own side stupid as well, mostly people who have boiled all the complicated issues into slogans and really don’t comprehend what they’re saying. I think you guys probably look at the dumber of your compatriots and think, “Jesus, this guy’s barely rubbing his brain cells together, but at least he can wave a sign.” No, this is what we really think about Trump supporters, the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don’t. That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought “Fine.” That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, “Okay.” That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, “No problem.” That when he made up stories about seeing muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, “Not an issue.” That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn’t care, you chirped, “He sure knows me.” That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, “That’s cool!” That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. That when you heard him brag that he doesn’t read books, you said, “Well, who has time?” That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn’t commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, “That makes sense.” That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, “Yes!” That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man’s coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, “What a great guy!” That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, “Thumbs up!” That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, “That’s the way I want my President to be.” That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they’re supposed to be regulating and you have said, “What a genius!” That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, “That’s smart!” That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, “That makes sense.” That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, “falling in love” with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, “That’s statesmanship!” That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. What you don’t get, Trump supporters in 2018, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it’s also…hear me…charitable. Because if you’re NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are *less* flattering.

  22. KGC, it’s been reported that

    Warren Buffett email a hoax: Plain Dealing:
    Warren Buffett is not asking you to forward emails to your friends. Really.Associated Press 
    If you’re busily trying to spread the gospel according to Warren Buffett, please stop.
    The “Pass It Forward!!”or “Winds of Change” chain email that claims to be from Buffett is a hoax.
    “He would never send out a chain email,” said his personal assistant at Berkshire Hathaway, Debbie Bosanek. “He doesn’t have his own email account.”
    The email, which misspells Buffett’s name, begins: “Winds of Change … Warren Buffet (sic) is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.”
    It contains a list of seven “reforms” for Congress — some of which are based on whack-a-doodle claims that have been debunked by political fact-checkers, including the myth that members of Congress draw pay after they leave office and the false claim that members of Congress are exempt from the Affordable Healthcare Act.
    Bosanek says as far as the folks at Berkshire Hathaway can tell, the email began after Buffett made an off-the-cuff remark during a TV interview a few years ago. It has morphed into something less recognizable over time.
    “It was not a serious proposal,” Bosanek says.
    Buffett’s name gets slapped on a lot of things he has nothing to do with. Politi-Fact’s archives are filled with Buffett-inspired myths. Likewise, a home-flipping seminar that passed through Cleveland a few years ago flashed a picture of Buffett on the big screen to trick people into thinking he had somehow endorsed the scheme.
    And as a rule of thumb, most emails that urge you to forward messages to all your friends are hoaxes.
    If you receive the “Pass It Forward!!” email, pass it into the junk folder.


  23. I took out Buffet’s name

    the ideas are not wack a doodle and members of congress get pensions so they do get money after leaving office and a lot of other perks  and they are not exempt from ACA  but
    What health insurance does Congress have?
    Instead, they choose a gold-level Obamacare policy and receive federal subsidies that cover 72 percent of the cost of the premiums. In short, Snopes reports that members of Congress and staff “pay approximately 28 percent of their annual healthcare premiums through pre-tax payroll deductions.”Jul 25, 2017 close enough to free

    I don’t know about you but I pay 100% of my healthcare premiums including medicare coverage–which I have paid into since I was 16 —49 years worth

  24. the ideas are not dangerous or false only the use of Buffett’s name is wrong if he is not associated with these ideas

    and the only trolls we have here are Republican concern trolls

  25. there is some kind of time warp here  why is my response to pat listed above the comment posted by patd

  26. kgc, not arguing with you on the issue, but with the elections so close a lot of hoaxes are popping up all over the place and just wanted to warn you that there might be dangerous links in them.  we’re being bombarded by trolls & bots from Russia along with the garbage thrown at us by the usual dirty-tricksters.

  27. in the meantime, the world is coming to an end and we’re all going to die!!!   except, of course, the cockroaches.


    from the guardian:

    We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN

  28. “… with the will of the majority brazenly thwarted by the most unrepresentative body in the democratic world.”

    Mr Crawford, quoting Joan Walsh, 9:45am

    Thinking back to what I heard on a CNN panel last week: four Supreme Court Justices have been appointed by two Presidents who lost the popular voter. A crisis of legitimacy. Odds are President Trump may have more chances.

    Also thinking about the election in Brazil, where the frontrunner is a President Trump mini me, right down to the FAKE NEWS!! defense ( which, to their credit, Brazilians have created websites to combat, but it is still up to the voters to access.) There will be a run off, but the mainstream candidate is very unpopular due to that Party’s shenanigans.

    The news out of Romania is bizarre. The vote to make marriage legal only between a man & a woman was called because too few voters showed up. Doesn’t change the current laws or attitudes, but What If We Held An Election And No One Showed Up?

  29. Ok, let’s talk about Columbus – I like his Circle  and who doesn’t love a parade – aside from that?  OK, it took some stones to do what he did.  I doubt that he knew much about the Norse guys finding Newfoundland – internet service and Wikipedia were notoriously slow and unreliable in the 15th century.  But they did know the world was round – they just had little idea that there were island chains and a continent or two between Europe and Asia and had no idea how far they’d have to go before they hit land or got consumed by monsters – well they “knew” how far it would be to Japan, but they were off by a factor of about 5 1/2  – luckily for them they were wrong and ran into the Bahamas.  If he’d been right about what was between the Canaries and Japan, with his wildly incorrect estimate of the earth’s size he and his merry men would have succumbed to dying of thirst, starvation and scurvy somewhere in the middle of the Pacific.  He did step foot on America – South and Central – but he missed North America.  He was all over tourist destinations – Jamaica, Cuba (the southern side – so he came pretty close to making his way to Key West – and wouldn’t that have been a blast?) and on his 4th voyage he visited the Yucatan – musta missed Cancun though because I never read anything about him mentioning the tourists there.  And cut the guy a break – as explorers went and subjugating native types, he was strictly bush league.  And they didn’t care so much about that stuff back then. He had the Catholic Church in his corner, so subjugating for the good of the Church would not have been frowned upon – as was evidenced by the Conquistadors. Hell, Cortez and Pizarro raised that stuff to an art.  Anyway, he had a long and painful 14 years before he succumbed to complications from the illnesses (gout – arthritis, influenza) he picked up on his first voyage, so you might say Karma eventually killed him.  (My sincerest thanks to Wiki for most of the nuggets contained herein).  I’d love to see the Drunk History version of the life of Chris.

  30. KC – I had that time warp thing happen last week when I had a response to one of patd’s comments post ahead of the comment.  I figured I musta been typing at the speed of light or sumpin.

  31. Mr Crawford, are your Media friends afraid of their future due to the continued bullying of this administration or emboldened? It must wear one down to keep hitting your head against a brick wall & knowing you are the eternal boogeyman punching bag. Goodness, these people were kept in pens at rallies.

  32. Is there a karma cosmic thread that ties the Catholic Church abuse crimes & the awakening of abuse crimes within the general population? A coincidence is too much of a coincidence. The monolithic needs but a crack to expose the weaknesses.


    So many of the atrocities against native populations were based on religion, as continues today.



  33. KC – I had that time warp thing happen last week when I had a response to one of patd’s comments   Pogo

    Must be something to do with Patd  🙂

  34. CNN playing a montage of Republican Senators using the term “Rock Bottom” concerning Supreme Court nominations. Oh my. Deflect, deflect, deflect, game, set, match.

    A favorite line from I, Claudius was when Caligula gave the guards the password for the night: Bottoms up.

  35. KC, Columbus was Italian.  But he did marry a Portuguese woman and live in Lisbon for  while. [Testing time warp]

  36. I thought they did some DNA testing on his bones and he was Portuguese  oh no another myth blown

    So Pogo how did you become so informed on Chris and I think it is wrong to have his holiday not on the right day — which everyone knows is 10/12

  37. Columbus?  First I ever heard of him was when a kid I knew recited:

    In fourteen-ninety-two

    columbus sailed the ocean blue

    he sailed so fast that he tore his ass

    in fourteen-ninety-two.

  38. Attention all 15-year olds, have the courage to report when you’ve been attacked immediately, even though you are shell-shocked. -Susan Collins

    Geez!  She is the just the worst.. except for the rest of the GOOPERZ.

  39. Pogo…  I’m with you.  What good does it do to look back on history with 21st century eyes.  To me that’s akin to saying we should edit Huckleberry Finn because it was racist.  And yes… the winners get to tell the story….  so.

    I’m also someone who thinks that people are people…  no matter their ethnicity.  That means some are good and some aren’t.  Putting an entire race of people…  such as Native Americans…  up on a pedestal isn’t reality.

  40. crackers- I love it!  I would add that neither you, your spouse, your children, grandchildren l, nor your children’s  spouses, can make a big pile of cash as a lobbyist for 20 years after you leave office.

  41. RR

    Wait wait.  I think it is important that history be fact based.  Too often the truth is buried is someone’s pr myth.

    A great example of that is the Custer Story – his wife was his postmortem pr agent

    Not acknowledging that what we thought was the history is actually some pr guy’s late night imaginings  won’t help us going forward.  The people who benefit from the false version won’t change and the people who are hurt will continue to be damaged.

  42. sj – Do you think, if TV journalists were worth their salt, they could do a better job of explaining what is going on to the American public?

    I hear the latest air or traffic fatality, a bit of major weather crisis news, and, blips of political stuff in the evening news.

    Instead of a 1-hour, crime re-enactment, why not spend an hour on the week’s political news?  But, no talking heads, just the facts.

    And, please, don’t waste it by giving Melania (I’m just here as a distraction) Trump air time.  Her husband tried to cut funding for what she is now trying to USE as her spokesmodel platform.   Shame on ABC if they don’t use the time to also shine a light on the rest of the story.

    Of course, it’s more than TV journalists not being very good at their jobs; those who run the news departments and the networks are also complicit in giving Trump cover.  Air time is money.

  43. KGC…  I agree that too often the truth is buried under someone’s pr stuff.  It’s much easier to go back as far as Custer and learn some of the buried facts.  But to go back as far as Columbus…   not so much.   You can look at his voyages from several different perspectives and still not be able to ascertain the entire truth.  But then…  IMO, that’s why history is so fascinating.

    Just look at how hard Christians try to prove the existence of Jesus.  There’s actually nothing definitive.  But don’t try to tell that to those that believe.

  44. blueINdallas,

    A free Press is integral to democracy. I’m afraid that good competent people considering journalism will see what today’s Press is going through & choose other career choices, just as we see excellent people choosing not to run for public office because of the toxicity.

    You’re correct; news business is business which = $$$. But it is fickle in that this business does not care the ideology as long as the money is waiting to be made.


  45. RR

    I’m with you

    If the facts are truly obscure I think all people are asking for is that all stories be represented equally.  

    In my years of public education I since have come to realize that I may have a fairly factual outline about history but I am missing enough of the essential facts to know that the conclusions are often incorrect

    I realized I had a completely false impression of Harry Truman until I read the biography by David McCollough so much had been left out in stories about Truman

  46. Sturg…   I LOVE Gore Vidal also.  Since you are such of lover of stuff about the Roman Empire, I highly recommend his novel “Julian”.  I found a used copy in paperback that was almost falling apart at a local church fair.  It’s one of the best novels I’ve ever read about ancient Rome.

  47. I had a period there where I read every novel about Rome I could lay me hands on….there’s a bunch of them…….another which sticks to Ya is JUDAS, MY BROTHER, by Frank Yerby

  48. This novel touches on only two issues which, in a certain sense, might be called controversial: whether any man truly has the right to believe fanciful and childish nonsense; and whether any organization has the right to impose, by almost imperial fiat, belief in things that simply are not so. To me, irrationality is dangerous; perhaps the most dangerous force stalking through the world today. This novel, then, is one man’s plea for an ecumenicism broad enough to include reasonable men; and his effort to defend his modest intellect from intolerable insult.
    —Frank Yerby

  49. pogo & KGC,  no mystery and no time-shifting involved.  in both cases it was a matter of going back to edit and clarify the comments.  you both were responding to the originals which jumped ahead due to rewrites.

    I think

  50. KC, my primary memory refresher on ol’ Chris is Wikipedia – I linked the article.  I learned a lot of that stuff back in the day when I took European History, but forgot most of it.  The maps of his 4 trips are pretty fascinating.  He came oh, so close to finding FL – who knows, if he had he mighta succeeded where Ponce de Leon failed and we could have asked him about. Wiki didn’t mention the DNA exam of his bones, but here’s an article about it from Forbes. Fascinating stuff – comparing the bones of his son to a Portuguese nobleman – wonder what’s taking so long? I don’t suppose Ferdinand was the offspring of Chris’ Portuguese wife rather than his Spanish mistress – he did have sons with each, and you know how easy it is to confuse one kid for another.

  51. cnn:
    Michael, now a Category 1 hurricane slashing Cuba, is forecast to be a “dangerous major hurricane” when it smacks the US Gulf Coast on Wednesday, the National Hurricane Center said.
    The forecast indicates Michael may be a Category 3 hurricane — with winds from 111 to 129 mph — when it strikes.
    “Life-threatening storm surge is possible along portions of the Florida Gulf Coast regardless of the storm’s exact track or intensity,” the center said. “Well-built framed homes may incur major damage or removal of roof decking and gable ends. Many trees will be snapped or uprooted, blocking numerous roads. Electricity and water will be unavailable for several days to weeks after the storm passes.”
    Floridians scurried to prepare after Gov. Rick Scott declared a state of emergency for 26 counties.

  52. wonder what will be effect on early voting (and even on election day) of all the expected rainfall, flooding and resulting damage in the next couple of weeks.  several states are in Michael’s path.

    from sciencedirect abstract excerpt:

    Does rainfall during the Election Day reduce voter turnout? Previous research shows that in the US one inch of rain reduces turnout with about one percentage point.

  53. I’ve come oh so close to buying a home in the FL panhandle or on the AL coast a few times over the years.  Mrs. P stopped me more than once because of her fear of getting blown away by a hurricane there.  For a little Italian girl from Cleveland she ain’t so dumb.

  54. pogo, should be some real buys there after Michael blows thru…    lotsa luck on trying to get insurance.

    not to be schadenfreud-y about it, but isn’t the huckster’s new mansion in the storm’s pathway?

  55. My bad – I thought patd meant the con man. Huckleberry’s home is dead in the middle of the zone of confidence for the track.  Shame, ain’t it?  At a minimum I hope it washes every single grain of sand on the beach in front of his mansion away right to the base of  his retaining walls. If I believed in a sentient and meddling god I’d say it’s god getting back at him for being such a selfish lying hypocrite.

  56. (D) announced on Monday that the limousine failed an inspection last month and, moreover, the driver lacked the proper commercial license that would have permitted him to drive the vehicle. But there is a bigger issue: The dismal safety record of stretch limousines overall is no secret. If you are wondering why the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is investigating the deaths in Schoharie, you can thank Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.). After a limo crash on Long Island’s North Fork killed four women in 2015, the senator called for the industry to be better regulated. The federal agency agreed to collect data on future limousine crashes. It’s a start, but we need to do much more.

  57. Did Hope Hicks suddenly become a highly-experienced, communications specialist, capable of such an important-sounding position…or is Faux Noise doing a favor for Donny?  She has poor taste in men, all the way around.

  58. Tomorrow is the last day to register to vote in TX.

    Watcha think about early voting?  Does that tip either side’s hand as far as voter turnout goes?  Maybe push the other side to show up?


    I believe Ed VB is from that area of NY, right?

  59. Dottir’s cabin is a tad down the road from Scoharie……they just went by the site on their way back from Rochester.

  60. Pete Sessions, who is one reason Pence was here today, said that “this is a cultural war.”   ~Hmmmm, wonder what he meant by “cultural.”~

  61. You see a lot of rented limos in the Catskills……I’d like to know how it happened. It sounds so far like pilot error, but details aren’t out that I’ve seen.

  62. I think anything that makes it easier to vote  helps the

    The limo accident sounds horrible — bad intersection, bad driver, bad limo company, and apparently limo with problems

  63. Why, Susan Collins, do you believe that Dr. Ford was mistaken about the identity of her attacker?   Because it’s more convenient for you?   If you believe she was attacked, why do you disbelieve the rest of her story?  You awaful, awful woman, why?

  64. As a GOP, Collins is duty bound to not believe Dr Ford.  As a woman, Collins must soften calling Dr Ford a liar by attacking her memory function. As a human, well, as a human she’s all you can expect of a GOP woman.      Confirm the so obviously impaired creep and walk away with the gelt.  No…..she totally believed Dr Ford, it just didnt matter.

    Like Jack said.

  65. The light down at the end of the tunnel is that Mueller knows how to keep it all away from the Supreme Court.

  66. Shit for brains is doing his ceremonial swearing in of cava not. I think I’m going to puke. What a goddamn lying sack of shit. Where is that goddamn swear jar?

  67. Anyone else noticed that when Ruth Bader Ginsburg was standing up she stumbled & Clarence Thomas immediately reached over & put his arm around her?

    This ceremony is a victory for the Cheney Bush crowd.

  68. Mentioning the politicians who helped him, including Manchin. What now to expect from future nominees?


  69. I will continue to heed the message of Matthew ….

    Didn’t John F Kennedy spend a day in West Virginia telling voters he would not be beholden to the religious?

    Would’ve been funny if someone yelled out Praise to Allah!

    Oy vey.


  70. I think people should move from Kavanaugh for the time being    Let the asshole in chief rant and rave on his own  I think it just incites Democrats and his voters will follow him to hell the ones that are left that is

    the media is spoiling for a fight since their failed reporting is part of the problem they cannot be counted on to do a good job. It’s not fake news it’s irrelevant and stupid news

    Case in point I just heard some ;loser reporter for politico say the Democrats are not mobilizing on this issue they are licking their wounds now that is fake news on so many levels It’s not hard to see why Trump is so easily able to discredit the media

  71. SJ, that was  when the word democrat was not a dirty word in West Virginia And relatively speaking West Virginia weren’t the fucking idiots they are today.

  72. KC,  I agree. That fight is over. If Democrats win the house they have only the ability to do investigations and to file articles of impeachment. Those articles of impeachment would fall to the 51-49 split in the Senate that we will see after the elections. Why whip up the Republican base up for them?

  73. Pogo

    I’m confused about the senate races.  Initially the concern was over red state democrats – now it looks like we could win Texas and lose New Jersey

  74. I had a talk yesterday with a wonderful young lady, 56-yo, who told me that she was raped 40-years ago by the assistant director of a government Youth Conservation Corps Program summer-long work camp in Central-Nevada. She was too scared/embarrassed/out in the woodlands, to report it. Fuck Kavanaugh, Fuck Trump.

  75. It might be out there, but I haven’t visited a single site that prognosticates this shit that has predicted that the Democrats would win the Senate. Not 538, not RCP, not Cook, not Sabato. And there is zero chance, and that might be overstating it, that there are any Republicans in the Senate who will come to their fucking senses and would vote in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary against any Republican who is being investigated and impeached.

    I didn’t see the idiotic swearing and when I posted initially- I was listening to it on Sirius. I’ve been watching it for the last few minutes. Oh my fucking God. What a bunch of horseshit. I hope Air Force One perishes in a fireball with SFB on board.

    And Cava nope has the same goddamn one and a half inch black binder to read out of. Jesus fucking Christ. A generation or more of jurisprudence that will be fucked up by this goddamn asshole and his goddamn asshole’s nominee to SCROTUS.

    FUCK them and the Collins and Manchin they rode in on.

  76. home county of the hucksterbee mansion:


    WALTON COUNTY, FLA. (WEAR-TV) — The National Hurricane Center has issued a Hurricane Warning and Storm Surge Warning for Walton County. Hurricane Michael, currently a Category 1 storm, is expected to impact Walton County beginning at 8:00 p.m. on Tuesday, October 9th.
    Hurricane Michael is expected to make landfall as a Category 3 Major Hurricane
    The issuance of this Mandatory Evacuation Order is as follows:
    Issued when an imminent threat to life exists and individuals MUST evacuate in accordance with the instructions of local officials. During these unsafe conditions, Public Safety officials will not risk lives to respond to emergency calls in the affected areas. When conditions improve, response times could be severely delayed due to an inability to access the mandatory evacuation area. These delays could last for hours or days. Utilities, including electricity, water, and phone service, could be damaged and unavailable for extended periods of time. If you do not evacuate, prepare to be self-sufficient for up to 72-hours or more.

  77. hey, mike,

    Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.

    Ezekiel 13:13

  78. Flatus, thanks. You seldom swear here and I get the impression that you don’t routinely swear in your daily life (fuck ‘em I say). Hearing such strong language from you lands with a great deal of impact.

  79. That’s it. I’ve had enough. I ain’t killing myself but I’m mad as hell and I can’t take it anymore. I’m not going to throw the tv out the window – what’s it going to hit, the shrubs 6” below the window sill?    I’ll just retire to something even more mindless than politics (if I can find something, anything more mindless than politics). Suggestions?

  80. Pogo, her disclosure came after she read the Journal article from Saturday. As a Senior NCO, the words come easily when appropriate.

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