Even Sadder Than Having A Racist President Is How Many Americans Like It

Washington Post — President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal:

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said.

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107 thoughts on “Even Sadder Than Having A Racist President Is How Many Americans Like It”

  1. he campaigned as the last hope…no one should be surprised

    and no matter what excuses are offered up this is why people voted for him

  2. Vicente Fox on twitter:

    “Your mouth is the foulest shithole in the world. With what authority do you proclaim who’s welcome in America and who’s not. America’s greatness is built on diversity, or have you forgotten your immigrant background, Donald?”

  3. SFB’s problem is that he’s incapable of decency. His deplorable supporters love it, and the fact that 1/3 of the US thinks that way is much more disturbing than the (known) fact that our SFB “president” thinks that way. Vicente, give him hell.

  4. Frank Luntz on twitter:

    43% of immigrants from “shithole” African countries have a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 33% of the overall American population.

    “Nigerian-Americans, for instance, have a median household income well above the American average.”

    https://t.co/Vmk3vkOLyd

  5. Frank LUNTZ?  What’s happened with him? On one occasion he states something that sounds like facts, not filtered through a Repug filter. He’s slipping.

  6. So I guess SFB’s shithole is above his (fat) neck instead of below his (grotesquely fat) waist.

    Sorry for the repeated negativity, but goddammit. I’m pissed and embarrassed by “president” SFB.

  7. That plays right into his base.  Why are folks coming here and doing better than  ‘actual’ Americans?

    It was the follow-up line that was very biting; it left no doubt that he wasn’t just talking about poor folks, but about people of color.    He wants folks from Norway to come here.  Why would they?  They have universal healthcare and are supported in their secondary education.  As do folks from Denmark, but if he’s looking for racists, he’s more likely to find them there.

    Not that I would want to equate anyone with Donny, nor give him a pass, but is this a senior moment like Helen had?

     

  8. shithead-in-chief. He’ll be lucky if the OAS doesn’t sue him for $1TR!LL!ON$ for harming the reputation of their individual members in the market place.

    He casts dishonor upon the office and the nation. Lock him up.

  9. So, am I to believe that there’s a plethora of people in Norway in line to immigrate to the United States?  Haven’t hear that one yet.

  10. Just hoping it was senioritis and would, somehow, help to send him on a permanent golfing vacation, at the very least.

  11. I see actor James Franco has “allegedly” been coercing actresses into doing nude scenes for little pay and has been accused by others of inappropriate sexual behavior. I am not surprised. Years ago, he went on David Letterman and started reminiscing about his younger days, and he was all nostalgic about days when he threw eggs at people’s houses. He was laughing, not sorry. I haven’t been a fan since then.

  12. Ally Sheedy insinuated Franco was guilty of something.

    On a brighter note, Sam Rockwell is on SNL this week.

    Mesmerized by the Tonya/Nancy thing after all these years.

  13. Millions of Norwegians are desperate to flee from good health care. They can’t come here because so many Blacks, who should be happy to stay with their free market health care, are jamming US immigration corridors.

  14. Norway, along with the other northern European countries, are taking in refugees. The very same people SFB hates as a racist bigot.

    Racism has been one of the underlying problems in the U.S. since the first European settlers.  Very large changes, acceptance of others is increasing, have occurred during the last fifty years.  But, there is a solid percentage, greedy old perverts and Dems too, who cannot get over skin color.

    One of the memories I have of disconnect in regards to race happened about fifty-five years ago in Canada.  Our family enjoyed camping, often in Canada.  We were sitting around our campfire when a very British voice greeted my parents.  American, Canadian and British accents are very different from each other so it was easy to identify British.  As the adults were talking we youngsters played, not looking around.  The next day I heard the voice again and saw the man.  A fairly large black man with a British voice.  Being from America I had never seen anything like the man.  That is when I learned a lesson.  My world had expanded and my racist family members put in the rear of the room.

  15. front page from bbronc link

    are there any twit hotels/golf resorts/properties in the countries he just derided? and any of his recent exec orders exploiting or making the so-called holes worse?

  16. “Something this big, something this generational, something this profound could not have been done without exquisite presidential leadership,”   suck-up ryan praising pging, pedophilia, shitholish, tower trash.

  17. trump is shape-shifting trying to find his spirit animal, a racist pig.  Med exam on board today for the aging potus.  I wonder if his statins have protected him from mcdonalds or if he really has mayo pushing through his veins.  dotard-ville has taken over the WH.

  18. Well … at least he didn’t say basket of deplorables or binders full of women …  or 47% … or bitter/clinging to guns & religion … or … or … or … 😮

    And as we awake he is still President. With a government full of enablers. Remember & vote out both Republicans & Democrats who collaborate.

     

     

     

  19. Trevor Noah: ‘As someone from South Shithole, I’m offended Mr. President’

    In comments that seemed ripped right from a late-night comedy sketch, President Trump ignited the news cycle Thursday when The Washington Post reported he had referred to Haiti, El Salvador and African nations as “shithole countries” and expressed a preference for immigrants from Norway in talks with lawmakers.

    On Thursday night, late-night comedy hosts were eager to weigh in.

    “Guys,” “Daily Show” host Trevor Noah said. “I don’t know how to break this to you, but I think the president might be racist. Hear me out, I know I sound crazy.”

    Noah, who is from South Africa, used his own nationality as a springboard. “Personally, as someone from South Shithole, I’m offended Mr. President,” the host said. “Because not only does he think brown countries are shitholes, he thinks, what, we’re never going to know what he said? I mean don’t get me wrong, it might take a few weeks, but once the news donkey reaches our village, we’ll be so mad.”

    Jordan Klepper, host of Comedy Central’s “The Opposition,” also dove in on Trump’s slight. “Yup, now that’s how you speak truth to powerlessness,” he said.

    Klepper continued: “I know what you’re thinking: what do Norwegians have that Haitians and Africans don’t? It’s simple. They’re all white-knuckle enthusiasts about making America great again.”

    Stephen Colbert used the opening monologue of “The Late Show” to address the “packet of international crazy sauce [Trump] squirted out today.”

    “Sir,” Colbert said. “They are not shithole countries. For one, Donald Trump isn’t their president.”

    Jimmy Kimmel devoted the most time to Trump’s comments on Thursday night. “Before I share what he actually said,” Kimmel told his audience. “I want you to keep in mind this is an actual quote from the actual President of the United States.”

    Kimmel then played news reports of the comments. “Listen, I’m sure the fact that the counties he described as “shitholes” are mostly populated by people of color and the immigrants he wants from Norway are not is a coincidence,” the host said. “Because if it wasn’t, it would mean we voted for a racist, like a real one. And we’d have to get pitchforks and chase him out of the White House.”

    The host had one parting shot: “So anyway, thanks Vlad Putin,” Kimmel said. “You really got us good.”

     

  20. TX Gov, Gregg Abbot, was to have been in an MLK parade despite his record.   Folks were starting a boycott the parade movement.  Poof, just like that the new story is that the “Toyota N TX MLK Parade” was off because it couldn’t get permits due to lack of security, etc.

  21. Donny is a slumlord.  Yes, compared to Scandinavian countries, these are the slums & Norwegians don’t wanna go slumming.

  22. @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

    The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used. What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made – a big setback for DACA!

    4:28 AM – 12 Jan 2018

  23. Regarding SFB’s decision to skip the working visit/ribbon cutting at the new US Embassy in London, I dub him  Chickenshithead.

  24. “…this was not the language used”

    so what language was it?  racist pig latin?

    can’t imagine what other word sounds like sh*thole…. or if those same sounds make up a kinder but just as tough word in another language

  25. pogo, given he was to face big protests and no red carpet or visits to forbidden places or rides on fancy golden wheels, not surprised he played his blame-Obama card.

  26. Phew…  I guess I dodged a bullet.  Seeing how my parents came from Canada and are white…  they can sleep in peace in their graves knowing they didn’t come here from a shithole country.

    My conservatives friends on Facebook are desperately trying to change the subject…  good luck, but I don’t think it’s working…

  27. still searching for a “-gate” substitute.  maybe use famous but disastrous battles?

    trumpageddon

    trumperloo

    littletrumpbighorn aka trumpslaststand

     

    so far my favorite is bid’s “donnybroke”… good play on donnybrook, a scene of uproar and disorder

  28. the hill: Durbin fires back at Trump denial: ‘He said those hateful things, and he said them repeatedly’
    Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) fired back at President Trump for denying that he called Haiti and African countries “shithole countries,” saying Trump’s denials are “not true.”
    “In the course of his comments, [Trump] said things that were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Durbin told reporters on Friday. “I cannot believe in this history of the White House, in that Oval Office, any president has ever spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday.”
    Durbin was one of several lawmakers in the meeting during which Trump referred to Haiti and African nations as “shithole countries,” according to The Washington Post.
    [….]
    Durbin told reporters that Trump’s comments as reported by the Post were accurate.
    “You’ve seen the comments in the press,” Durbin said. “I’ve not seen one of them that’s inaccurate. To no surprise, the president started tweeting this morning, denying that he used those words. It is not true. He said these hate-filled things, and he said them repeatedly.”
    Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) were also present in the meeting and were surprised by Trump’s remarks, the Post reported.
    Durbin told reporters that Graham “spoke up” when Trump made the remark and praised him for his “political courage.”
    “My colleague [Graham] spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said,” Durbin said, according to MSNBC. “For him to confront the president as he did, literally sitting next to him, took extraordinary political courage and I respect him for it.”
    […..continues…]

     

  29. wapo:

    ‘Countries that are dirty like toilets,’ and other ways Trump’s profanity was translated abroad

    [….]

    Alex Segura, Washington correspondent for EFE, tweeted about the debate with his editors over how to translate “the pearl of the day from Trump.” Other options they considered for the phrase? “S‑‑‑ty countries,” “unclean countries,” and “pigsties,” he said.

    […]

    These cleaned-up versions fail to give foreign news consumers the full picture, which can prove problematic. Understanding the president’s remarks is, after all, essential to readers worldwide — his words could lead to life-altering policies and decisions for people all over.

    The two words from which “shithole” are formed are not that difficult to translate individually, according to linguist Juliane House, the former president of the International Association for Translation and Intercultural Studies.

    Most languages have some equivalent for the first part of the combination — or at least some profane variation of a word for excrement. “It’s a bodily function,” said House, who is a professor at the University of Hamburg.

    Hole, by itself, is also easy enough.

    But what happens when you put those two words together? Is it an adjective or a noun? And how does one use it in a sentence to describe certain countries?

    Even then, House said, “that doesn’t really mean that this gets through.”

    Editors from various news organizations need to approve the wording for publication. In many cultures, discussing excrement and using profanity — even when quoting the most powerful man in the world — may be a serious taboo. Depending on the political or moral leanings of a news organization, editors may choose to clean up the expletive.

    “Translation is never neutral, so ideology comes in, and probably pressure from above,” House said.

    Some foreign news outlets took an easier approach — to disregard the “hole.”

    Most French media went with the phrase “pays de merde,” which essentially means “s‑‑‑ty countries.”

    […]

    “Things have evolved: one year ago, maybe journalists would have developed or justified their choice of French swearwords for translating the American president; now it seems taken for granted that he uses a vocabulary that does not fit with the function” of the presidency, Viennot wrote in an email to The Post. “Vulgar is the new normal.”

    In Finnish, one translation of the phrase was “persläpimaat,” which literally means “a‑‑hole countries.”

    In Swahili, Trump’s phrase would likely be translated into “Bongo land,” a term used to describe poor or uncivilized places, Jan Blommaert, a Belgian linguistic anthropologist, told The Post. It’s a phrase considered disparaging by many. The phrase “Bongo Bongo Land” was actually banned for its members by the UK Independence Party in 2013 after a member of European Parliament used it to describe countries receiving government aid.

    Some of the oddest translations of Trump’s latest crudity showed up in Asian news outlets.

    Taiwan’s Central News Agency went with “niao bu sheng dan de guo jia,” or 鳥不生蛋的國家, meaning “countries where birds don’t lay eggs,” as Quartz pointed out. Japan’s Sankei used  便所のように汚い国, or “Benjo no yō ni kitanai kuni,” meaning “countries that are dirty like toilets.”

    As Anna Fifield, Tokyo bureau chief for The Washington Post, noted, South Korean media had to spell out the word in English.

    In Germany, a common translation was “drecksloch,” which conveys a garbage dump.

    “We used that a lot back when he called the White House a dump (simpler times!), but it doesn’t work for countries,” one German interpreter argued on Twitter.

    Reached by a reporter early Friday, House, the linguist in Hamburg, said she hadn’t read Trump’s original words in English yet — only the translation in a German daily.

    “Is it dirthole?” she asked.

    Close, but not quite.

  30. Toilets are relatively clean.

    a shithole is a hole one digs into which they defecate.   Once defecated into,  the defecation just stays there until the next defecation covers it. Maybe a little dirt cover?  (Just fills up faster)  Anyway a shithole really really smells bad…….you want it way far away from the campsite, and hopefully, down wind.

  31. I learned that during the 2 months I was a Boy Scout.

    I stuck it out long enough to go on the big camping trip up to the Great Smokey Mountains on the Davidson River.

  32. We went into the nearest town one day and there was a Native American in front of this one store in what was, I suppose, Cherokee Chief’s garb, complete with sears khaki pants and Bass moccasins, and he was shaking a maracas and every now and then he would beat on this little Tom-Tom with a fancy mallet.  So I slides over to take a picture of the Native American, and every time I’d get in front to snap the photo, the chief would turn away…….after a while I’m thinking, what the hell?  Turns out of course the chief took a donation for every photo. So I just waited until some folks with money got him turned right and took the photo……he kinda smiled at me for a second there.

  33. bbronc, okay, here’s twit on committing treason… not him of course.

    business insider:

    President Donald Trump said during an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Thursday that Peter Strzok, the FBI counterintelligence agent who was ousted from special counsel Robert Mueller’s team last July, committed treason. 

    “A man is tweeting to his lover that if [former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton] loses, we’ll essentially do the insurance policy,” Trump said. “We’ll go to phase two and we’ll get this guy out of office.”

    “This is the FBI we’re talking about — that is treason,” he continued. “That is a treasonous act. What he tweeted to his lover is a treasonous act.”

    [….]

    The Journal reported in December that the “insurance policy” Strzok mentioned was in reference to his belief that the FBI needed to continue digging into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow to tilt the election in his favor. 

    Strzok was removed from Mueller’s team after it emerged that he had exchanged the texts about Clinton and Trump with Page, and the inspector general is now examining the messages for any evidence of bias.

    [….continues….]

  34. I am on tenterhooks thinking of Mr Mueller every minute of every day. This Cult .45 smudge is depressing.

  35. from cnn

    Trump: I don’t want Republicans to shut down Russia investigations

    President Donald Trump told The Wall Street Journal on Thursday that he was not calling for Republicans in Congress to shut down investigations into possible collusion between Russians and his 2016 campaign when he tweeted on Wednesday that Republicans “should finally take control.”
    Trump said his message to congressional Republicans, while perceived as a call to end the investigations into collusion, was nothing more than him asking his party to “be tough.”
    “The single greatest Witch Hunt in American history continues. There was no collusion, everybody including the Dems knows there was no collusion, & yet on and on it goes. Russia & the world is laughing at the stupidity they are witnessing,” Trump tweeted. “Republicans should finally take control!”
    “I just want them to be tough, be strong,” Trump said in the interview. “I also think that primary collusion, because there was no collusion on our side, the collusion was on the Democrat side with the Russians.”
    [….continues…]

  36. I hope this once and for all puts to rest the idea that he is anything but a racist and the people who voted for him are as well.  They may have other complaints but they believe all their problems stem from people who are not white

  37. about Franco — Seth Meyers was in a difficult spot the other night, had Franco on, opened the interview trying to be tough but Franco gave a bunch of non-answers, basically refused to talk about the claims — so Seth gave up and moved on to the usual silly stuff. Don’t think he would have let off a politician like that.

  38. Mr Cracker is shocked and appalled.  Not me – this isn’t even the worst thing he has said

  39. Not surprised but Trump defenders saying it’s what his base thinks is pathetic. Even if that’s correct, that doesn’t make it right.

  40. In fact, it makes it all the more wrong.  He should be providing leadership not encouraging chauvinistic racist attitudes

  41. maybe the rallygoers think this way but i’m willing to bet there are plenty who voted for him who don’t — like those who voted for him and Obama. Trumpsters might be gloating he energized the base but I’ll take the bet it was a net loss, for this and all the other crazy stuff he says and does.

  42. The ancestors of many in his base probably came from Ireland, which was once a poor, s-hole county.

    patD – IDK what else sounds like that.  Ship’s hull?

  43. Scratch a Trump  voter find a racist….as for the Obama-Trump voter  some people are just contrarians

    Obama Trump Voter = Amarosa

    Trump is doing this for Tom Cotton who has said — people in big cities don’t see the bad impact of immigration – only cheaper nannies but in rural Ark. immigration is stretching local resources- failing to point out why the resources are thin

    Cotton is a terrible person – probably related to the Hucksterbees

  44. Maybe Donny meant to yell out like nazi (was he raising his arm straight ahead of him?)  & it came out s-hole instead of…I’ll phrase it like this, seek help.

     

  45. oh my god Sen Tom Cotton Moron-Ark said he doesn’t recall Trump saying that

    the slogan of Grand Old Perverts — I don’t recall

  46. bid & kgc, that’s it!  an ocd moment maybe…. those involuntary “sieg heils” just keep bubbling up.  that’s perhaps why he tucks his arms tightly to his chest so much.  wondered about that strange body language, even tho’t they had him in an invisible constraint; but now it all makes sense.   dr strangetwit.

    “sieg heil” does sound somewhat like “shithole” if mumbled, sneered with a slur just so no one notices.

  47. reuters:

    Many Norwegians rejected on Friday a suggestion by U.S. President Donald Trump that they would be more welcome to move to the United States than immigrants from “shithole countries” such as Haiti or African nations.

    The Nordic country, one of the richest in the world by GDP per capita, was last year named the happiest nation on the planet and is known for a cradle-to-grave welfare state funded in part by large reserves of oil and natural gas.

    [….]

    “On behalf of Norway: Thanks, but no thanks,” tweeted Torbjoern Saetre, a politician representing Norway’s Conservative Party in a municipality near Oslo.

    Others condemned the U.S. president’s comments as inappropriate or racist.

    “We are not coming. Cheers from Norway,” one woman wrote.

    While hundreds of thousands of Norwegians emigrated to the U.S. in the 19th century, just 502 out of a population of 5.3 million people moved there in 2016, down 59 from the previous year, according to Statistics Norway.

    “Will there be more now?” the statistics agency asked in a tweet.

    Government officials, seeking to deflect attention, turned down a chance to comment. “We respectfully decline the opportunity,” one government official said when contacted by Reuters.

    […]

    Christian Christensen, an American professor of journalism at Stockholm University in neighboring Sweden, tweeted:

    “Of course people from #Norway would love to move to a country where people are far more likely to be shot, live in poverty, get no healthcare because they’re poor, get no paid parental leave or subsidized daycare and see fewer women in political power. #Shithole”

  48. also from reuters;

    U.S. Ambassador to Panama John Feeley, a career diplomat and former Marine Corps helicopter pilot, has resigned, saying he no longer felt able to serve President Donald Trump.

    Feeley’s departure had been communicated to State Department officials on Dec. 27 and was not a response to Trump’s alleged use of the word “shithole” to describe Haiti and African countries at a meeting on Thursday, U.S. officials said.

    Trump denies using the term.

    Feeley, one of the department’s Latin America specialists and among its senior most officers, made clear that he had come to a place where he no longer felt able to serve under Trump.

    “As a junior foreign service officer, I signed an oath to serve faithfully the president and his administration in an apolitical fashion, even when I might not agree with certain policies,” Feeley said, according to an excerpt of a resignation letter read to Reuters on Friday.

    “My instructors made clear that if I believed I could not do that, I would be honor bound to resign. That time has come.”

    A State Department spokeswoman confirmed Feeley’s departure, saying that he “has informed the White House, the Department of State, and the Government of Panama of his decision to retire for personal reasons, as of March 9 of this year.”

    Speaking to reporters, Under Secretary of State Steve Goldstein said he was aware of Feeley’s planned departure on Thursday morning, before Trump’s alleged use of the vulgar term, and said the ambassador was leaving for “personal reasons.”

    “Everyone has a line that they will not cross,” “Goldstein told reporters at the State Department. “If the ambassador feels that he can no longer serve … then he has made the right decision for himself and we respect that.”

    […continues…]

  49. Mueller Move Could Signal He’s Looking at Conspiracy Charges for Hacking

    A recent hire for Special Counsel Robert Mueller‘s Russia probe could shed some light on where the investigation is going. Ryan K. Dickey reportedly joined the team in November, according to a statement from a Mueller spokesperson on Thursday.

    Dickey has served in the Justice Department’s Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section, and was on the team that prosecuted and convicted Romanian hacker Marcel Lehel Lazar, aka Guccifer.

    With Dickey now part of Mueller’s office, that could indicate that the probe is looking at cyber-related activities.  University of Georgia law professor Page Pate said this may be a sign that Mueller is looking at possible conspiracy charges related to Russian hacking, should there be evidence that Donald Trump‘s campaign had knowledge of Russian cyber-attacks when they happened.

    If Mueller’s team can detect evidence that connects Russian hacks to Trump’s campaign, that could be a breakthrough for the investigation. Alternatively, they could also be looking into Russian-backed social media ads that contained charged political messages

     

  50. Just when the WH staff thought they pulled one off with his “looking presidential” bipartisan conference, he turns around and shows he cannot be controlled.  SFB is his own moron.

  51. Regarding Snotter tom cotton’s recollection, and with apologies to Garcia Lorka,

    His head is made of shit,

    Therefore he cannot hear.

  52. I was bawn and bred in two briar patches……I was raise up and grew up with many racists……..but they don’t think they’re racists, they just think they don’t like black people and Jews……..and Yankees……and lib-tards……….. and many of their neighbors……and Catholics……and are totally opposed to any sex which don’t appear in a country song.

  53. nbcnews:

    [….]

    @HillaryClinton

    The anniversary of the devastating earthquake 8 years ago is a day to remember the tragedy, honor the resilient people of Haiti, & affirm America’s commitment to helping our neighbors. Instead, we‘re subjected to Trump’s ignorant, racist views of anyone who doesn’t look like him.

    2:14 PM – Jan 12, 2018

    Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said Friday that he heard Trump repeatedly refer to African countries as “shitholes” at a meeting they both attended the day before.Trump said “things which were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Durbin told reporters.

    “The most disheartening thing to me is my belief that that was the first time words that hateful had been spoken in the Oval Office of the White House,” Durbin added. “I think back at presidents throughout history and I cannot imagine a moment where a president sunk to that depth. That’s what breaks my heart.”

    Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle expressed outrage over Trump’s remarks.

    Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, wrote in a tweet that the president’s comments “could hurt” bipartisan immigration reform efforts, while Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said respecting the dignity of others “is the essence of American patriotism.”

    “People from everywhere have made American great. Our immigration policy should reflect that truth, and our elected officials, including our President, should respect it,” he added.

    Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., tweeted that the comments were “abhorrent and repulsive,” while Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., called the comments “appalling.”

    “It’s not enough to just respond with anger,” Sanders wrote on Twitter. “We have to build a political movement in this country which says that that is not who we are and we will not tolerate that type of moral inadequacy.”

    “The president’s expressed desire to see more immigrants from countries like Norway must be called out for what it is: an effort to set this country back generations by promoting a homogenous, white society,” Sen. Diane Feinstein, D.-Calif., said in a statement.

    Not everyone jumped to condemn the president, however.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., offered muted pushback, saying the reported remarks were “very unfortunate.”

    [….continues….]

  54. …and are totally opposed to any sex which don’t appear in a country song or that don’t involve them doing it themselves.

  55. Is our President fit to take this oath? Kumcho took it, Alice took it and so did Susan; each of my family members embraced it as key part of their lives. Donald Trump, you can’t hold a candle to any of these immigrants.
    Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

    Oath

    “I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”

  56. I don’t do oaths, but I could take that one standing on my ear if I wanted to take one.

    Has to do with the Code of The Sturgeone.

  57. Sturg, I was in uniform when Kumcho took it and then again when the kids did. On both occasions, it was my privilege to stand and repeat the oath along with them.

  58. There once was The code of Sturgeone

    which held that one must never be Pho-nay
    [unless absolutely necessary]

    One must shovel shit with glee,  as one does his doo-tee

    and Holden Caulfield notwithstanding, always be look for the Poe-nay.

     

  59. Repug is like libtard……..just obfuscation…….those guys are not nazis or repugs or rethugs or fascists or corporatists…….they’re just plain old garden variety republicans.

  60. Mr Flatus, events like those oath-takings must have been a strain on the buttons over your heart.

    The deadbeat is working hard to shove me into the camp that believes he is the worst president ever. I hated nixon and w as one hates zika and yellow fever mosquitos. But, I loathe trump as one loathes the lamprey eel.

     

  61. The lamprey has no choice but to be the best lamprey he can be……the bloated one actually can make choices…….if he wasnt a fat nazi bigot he might make a decent one.

  62. In case you have not noticed, SFB floated out a bomb to try and cover up all the hell he is getting from the world.  Only it is a dud.  Only $130K to buy off a porn star he (might have been) playing with – after he married the current immigrant.

  63. wall street journal via msn:

    A lawyer for President Donald Trump arranged a $130,000 payment to a former adult-film star a month before the 2016 election as part of an agreement that precluded her from publicly discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Michael Cohen, who spent nearly a decade as a top attorney at the Trump Organization, arranged payment to the woman, Stephanie Clifford, in October 2016 after her lawyer negotiated the nondisclosure agreement with Mr. Cohen, these people said.

    Ms. Clifford, whose stage name is Stormy Daniels, has privately alleged the encounter with Mr. Trump took place after they met at a July 2006 celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, these people said. Mr. Trump married Melania Trump in 2005.

    Mr. Trump faced other allegations during his campaign of inappropriate behavior with women, and vehemently denied them. In this matter, there is no allegation of a nonconsensual interaction.

    “These are old, recycled reports, which were published and strongly denied prior to the election,” a White House official said, responding to the allegation of a sexual encounter involving Mr. Trump and Ms. Clifford. The official declined to respond to questions about an agreement with Ms. Clifford. It isn’t known whether Mr. Trump was aware of any agreement or payment involving her.

    In a statement, Mr. Cohen didn’t address the $130,000 payment but said of the alleged sexual encounter that “President Trump once again vehemently denies any such occurrence as has Ms. Daniels.”

    Mr. Cohen added in the statement, addressed to The Wall Street Journal: “This is now the second time that you are raising outlandish allegations against my client. You have attempted to perpetuate this false narrative for over a year; a narrative that has been consistently denied by all parties since at least 2011.”

    The Journal previously reported that Ms. Clifford, 38 years old, had been in talks with ABC’s “Good Morning America” in the fall of 2016 about an appearance to discuss Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the matter. In that article, the Journal reported the company that owns the National Enquirer agreed to pay $150,000 to a former Playboy centerfold model three months before the election for her story of an affair a decade earlier with the Republican presidential nominee, which the tabloid newspaper didn’t publish. The company said she was paid to write fitness columns and appear on magazine covers.

    [….]

    Another adult-film star, Jessica Drake, later alleged in an October 2016 news conference that Mr. Trump kissed her and two other women without permission in a hotel suite after the same 2006 golf event.

    “I did not sign [a nondisclosure agreement], nor have I received any money for coming forward,” Ms. Drake said this week in an emailed statement. “I spoke out because it was the right thing to do.”

    A White House official responded to questions about Ms. Drake by referring to a previous statement by the Trump campaign, which called her account “totally false and ridiculous.”

  64. patD -A lot of that Norwegian wealth is from off-shore drilling.  (How do you say drill-baby-drill in Norwegian?) Their govt uses the wealth to provide lots of bennies, though.

  65. Mr Sturgeone,

    If dinosaurs could decide to be birds, then the lamprey can choose to be a newt. If trump chooses to, he can be a newt, too.

  66. Maybe that’s how we get universal healthcare.  We tell Donny it’s the only way to get folks from non-s-hole countries to move here.

    Yes, Sturg, lots of bennies for everyone there.

  67. If a lamprey had free will, he, or she, might conceivably evolve in the blink of an eye, like we primates did…..but I think the lamprey, due primarily to his or her environment, is fully locked into a pre-determined scheme of some sort to keep the lampreys down.

  68. It’s raining in old Caroline…….certainly am glad, at my age, not to be in a boat on the creek……..

  69. There’s a song in that…….for someone enterprising enough to write it……..

    It’s Raining in Old Caroline.

    there’s thousands of bucks lying there for somebody……..lol

  70. Bloomberg:

    Questions About Possible Mueller Interview

    Lawyers for President Donald Trump are expected to continue talks next week with Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his team about an interview with the president, despite comments from Trump suggesting an interview is unlikely.

    The lawyers may speak by phone with Mueller’s team as early as next Tuesday and are continuing an exchange over logistics, said a person briefed on the situation. Working out those details could take several weeks and a series of additional phone calls, the person said.

    [….continues….]

  71. Kind of on the order of rainy night in Georgia even though Brooke Benton is not around to sing it……..

  72. I can almost hear a barbershop quartet doing that old favorite……It’s Raining in Old Caroline…….

    The Buffalo Bills, maybe….

  73. Thanks for your posts, I will line them up first come first serve. It’s not that I’m lazy. I just want more voices here than mine.

  74. My Weekend Picks :

    Falcons (dammit, by 1),

    Patriots (blowout),

    Steelers (another squeaker), and

    Vikings by 6.

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