Is this the Beginning of the End?

By Pogo, a Trail Mix Contributor

So the so-called president asked the DIRECTOR of the FBI to let the Flynn investigation go. Hmmm, would that constitute obstruction of justice … particularly if he fires the DIRECTOR of the FBI when he didn’t let it go?

And really, as the so-called president has to be thinking, “What the hell is a MemCon anyway?” And what the hell, who knew Comey kept notes?

 

Heheheheh. Drip, drip, drip.
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66 thoughts on “Is this the Beginning of the End?”

  1. To all the youngsters around here, post-Watergate era, suck all this in and try to absorb all the side distractions and background you can.  If we survive this disaster you can be assured sometime in the future a president will try to be a dictator and you will be asked what it is like to go through a serious impeachment and possible trial for treason.

  2. 2 happy thoughts:  that prez authority to declassify only helps him re criminal trial, not impeachment

    and

    how prescient of comey to not only make contemporaneous notes, but to share copies of same contemporaneously.

     

  3. Interesting parallel: as the current administration spirals down the City of New Orleans has been removing Confederate statues. Three are gone. The last one remaining? Robert E. Lee. History casts long shadows but ultimately sheds more light.

     

  4. As pissed as I was at Comey last July for his testimony to congress and again in October (or was it November) because I felt he was inappropriately interfering in the political process, I never accused him of lying.

    Jonathan Turley sez that trump’s action in hoping Comey could find a way to let the investigation and Flynn go doesn’t meet the elements of criminal obstruction of justice, BUT, that doesn’t mean trump can’t be impeached over those actions. Turley’s pretty good. I’m staying tuned.

  5. pogo, thanks for the uplifting thread topic.  happy thoughts of impeachment heard thru out the land and that impeachment smells just as sweet by any other name (frog-walked resignation for instance)

  6. Sturg, this was in this mornings mail:

    Richland Democratic Breakfast This Saturday- New Location
     
    Greetings Richland County Democrats:

    You are cordially invited to our May breakfast on this Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 9:00 am at the DafusKEYS Gullah Bistro located at 1710 Main Street, Columbia, SC 29201. The DafuskKEYS is located across from the Richland County Courthouse in downtown Columbia. The Breakfast Buffet with beverage is $12.00 (tax and tip are included). Menu items include: Shrimp and Grits, Sausage, Eggs, Pastries, Fresh Fruit, Juice & coffee.

    You don’t have to eat breakfast (or pay) to join us and listen to our featured speakers. The program will start at 9:15 a.m. Feel free to bring a friend!

  7. Trump said that he might release his tax returns after he is out of office. I’m not sure that I can wait a whole week!

  8. I saw the former Elsa Prince last night. I was gonna ask her what her kids were doing these days since we never hear much about them. 🙂

  9. Corey: “Trump said that he might release his tax returns after he is out of office. I’m not sure that I can wait a whole week!”

    Bravo Corey — that line is Colbert worthy

  10. Comey’s notes and emails played a part is the Shrub administration as well.  Too bad Pussyboy doesn’t care much about history

  11. If I were McMasters  this would be the time to leave  ..from today’s NYTimes
    Some of Mr. Trump’s senior advisers fear leaving him alone in meetings with foreign leaders out of concern he might speak out of turn. General McMaster, in particular, has tried to insert caveats or gentle corrections into conversations when he believes the president is straying off topic or onto boggy diplomatic ground.
    This has, at times, chafed the president, according to two officials with knowledge of the situation. Mr. Trump, who still openly laments having to dismiss Mr. Flynn, has complained that General McMaster talks too much in meetings, and the president has referred to him as “a pain,” according to one of the officials.
     

  12. Two thoughts to add:  McMaster is now taken to wearing ill-fitting suits instead of his impeccable dress uniform. There’s an old sense among the military that you should not bring dishonor to the uniform. I wonder if his sartorial choice is a matter of principle, in an atmosphere where principle is in drought stage?

    And, for those of you who are gleefully anticipating impeachment, I give you this thought: President Pence.

  13. Yeah keep Pussy Grabber around for awhile…until he can take the whole of Goopers with him

    I’d like to see Mitch McConnell get his –

  14. CajunJoe, agree Dems should consider Pence might be far more effective at moving the GOP agenda along. On the other hand, who knows what damage Trump might do. Politically, Dems might be better off with things as they are now.

  15. Yup… this is the beginning, IMO…  but the end is probably still a ways off.

    Craig…  Rick and I were discussing that very thing this morning.  Politically, it would be better for the Dems if Trump stayed awhile and continued to fuck-up…   but to what end would it mean for the country.

    I did watch Last Word last night.  Joy Reid said that Pence is up to his eyeballs in this too and shouldn’t be allowed to grab the reins if Trump goes down.  But then we’d have President Ryan.  Not good choices here.

  16. Just spent some time explaining Memcons to some folks on Facebook with the “Why didn’t he say something before?”.  I swear some of these people live in caves.

    For those asking why not revealed before now: Memcons are traditional police/FBI procedure in an investigation. They are not revealed but may be shared with others involved in the investigation. When additional data has been collected, they form the basis of what may be legal action. So no it is not unusual that Comey created it and then kept it under wraps until it was needed for subsequent events.

  17. Greetings from the desert. For those of you who lived through Watergate and the Nixon years, you and I can recall how long it took from the breakin to resignation: more than two years.  What I remember most is the sequence of events leading to the presidency of Gerald Ford. First, Spiro Agnew was brought down by a bribery case while still Governor of Maryland. Gerald Ford, Speaker of the House, was nominated and approved by the Senate to be Vice President. When Nixon resigned in America’s longest nightmare, Ford became President, without a single popular vote.

    Cajon said think about this: President Pence. God forbid!  Please, I mean it literally!  So, a major media investigation should commence causing a rift between Trump and Pence leading to a new Vice President prior to Trump resigning in the next year or so. Who would a new Vice President be?  I don’t know but I do know this person would have to come from the Senate as Democrats hold the balance of power in selecting the VP in the Senate.

    Or we will have President Pence!  God forbid!

     

  18. If we can get a Democratic House, then President Pence would have a natural check against his more witch hunting tendencies.

  19. If we (the USA) wait until after ’18 to dump trump, prez pence will be an unelected inheritor-in-chief without a VP – unless he picks a Dem. Unless . . . .

    What did pence know, and when did he know it ?

  20. Pogo: The beginning of the end, yes. But it will take a while for the end to get here. Eventually, I hope those at the top of his administration will be so tainted by the stink that they will bow out gracefully before they sink with the ship.

    Lots of familiar sounding rumblings. Not only Nixon, but media/entertainment as well. May be time to re-read or re-watch The Pelican Brief. No murders that I know of, except for several mysteriously dead Russians, but the covert manipulations are recognizable.

  21. From the Globe article Poobah linked –

    “But Senator Richard Burr, the Republican chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said, “The burden is on The New York Times” to produce the memo, although other media sources confirmed the contents of it.”

    Burr’s still drinking the Kool-ade  He has subpoena power to get the memo from Comey.  Dipshit.

  22. Granny,  I suspect there will be those who voluntarily go over the side and those who are forced to walk the plank.  I just hope drumpf is too stupid to understand that those he has fired aren’t going to take a figurative bullet for him.

  23. Heading to Southern Command this afternoon with David, celebrating Dad’s 90th birthday next week.

  24. EProf, the prospect of a president Pence makes my blood run cold.  He’s 2 steps to the right of trumpf and may be a lot smarter, or at least have a better idea of how to get things done in government.  Bad combination IMHO.

  25. The real reason this asshole has to go:

    Trump speech at Coast Guard Commencement: “No politician in history…has been treated worse or more unfairly”

  26. norm coleman to head the FBI ? Through 6 years as a senator, doggedly pursuing Kofi Anan, and inadvertently exonerating him, norm just could be the FBI chief that the deadbeat pussy grabber needs.

  27. To paraphrase Billy Joel with regard to the Trump supporters like Burr…and they will all go down together.

  28. Trump speech at Coast Guard Commencement: “No politician in history…has been treated worse or more unfairly”

    Deplorable to inject his own political failures into an address to the next wave of Coasties, but then after his appearance before the wall of agents killed in defense of the country to brag about the size of the crowd at the inauguration, why would we expect anything different?

  29. I think Hillary Clinton was treated pretty unfairly and John Kerry got a giant load of cheap shots

  30. The letter P was made to describe this POTUS:

    pathetic, paunchy, pasty, petulant, peevish, perverse, petty, pompous,

    A whole plethora of possible pejoratives.

  31. “No politician has been treated more unfairly.” It certainly is true that Mr. Trump was given a free ride during the Republican primaries. He was given uncounted hours of free air time and celebrity status.  He was allowed to get by without even disclosing his financial positions and interests. The press failed in its duty to test his temperament and knowledge. Had he been treated more ‘fairly’ he quite likely would not have gotten the nomination, nor been elected President. Now he is the subject of the herd mentality in the press, and perhaps some piling on. But what goes around comes around. And if one just looks at the facts, as we understand them, rather than the sometimes hysterical opinion, he has repeatedly crossed the lines that we expect to be respected in our essentially moderate democracy.

  32. Prat, pug, puke, paucity, peril, pricey, pander, popinjay, putz, pimple, poopy, Pandora, pretzel-tongue, plumed, punk, porcine, paralyzing, puffer, prideful, paramecium, perverted, pantywaist, prickly, prevaricate, puissant, and putin.

  33. Jamie & xr, you left out PISSANT.  i’d rather consider him as “an insignificant or contemptible person or thing”   rather than a  puissant which is defined as someone “having great power or influence”…..  the later scares me every time I have to think of it.

     

  34. puerile, pissant, prick, pretentious, pitiless, profane, pugnacious (but a pussy – in the cowardly sense of the word), pervert, posturing, preening – the list goes on…and on…and on

  35. cnn:

    Speaking at a press conference in Sochi, Russia, Putin dismissed allegations that Trump had shared top-secret security intelligence with Russian diplomats as “political schizophrenia.”

    “If the US administration finds it necessary, we are ready to provide the record of the conversation between Trump and Lavrov to the Senate and Congress,” Putin said.

    [….]
    At the press conference in Sochi, Putin made light of the allegations.
    “I think we need to come up with some sort of punishment for him, because he didn’t share this secret information, not with us, not with the special services. This is really not nice of him,” Putin joked, laughing with Lavrov, who was also at the conference.
    But he then took a more serious tone, accusing Americans of “rocking the internal political situation in the US under anti-Russian slogans.”
    “They either don’t understand that they are harming their country — which makes them just dumb — or they understand, which makes them dangerous and dirty.”

    maybe they’ll also throw in that tape of comey NOT telling drumpf he was under investigation and another tape re the loyalty question …all of which the twit tweeted about as a way of threatening comey.

  36. trump’s been treated much worse, much more unfairly than Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and Kennedy. Not so ?

    That’s just among US presidents. Now, going back to the Gracchi . . . .

  37. pogo, yes you did include pissant, true scholar that you are.

    how about adding putin puppet while we’re “p”ing on the putative prez.

  38. Flatus, Sturg — we’re overhead you at 38000 ft 536 kts

    David is reading Tab Hunter’s “Confidential” book while I am pestering him with flight info updates

  39. more on putie proposition from nytimes:
    “I think Putin gets personal pleasure from exploiting the vulnerable position Trump has found himself in,” said Valeriy Solovey, a professor at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations. “Putin feels superior and this flatters him.”

    But, he added, the main target of Mr. Putin’s intervention was domestic opinion, as has been the case with most moves by the Russian president that baffle and dismay foreigners.

    “This was a well prepared impromptu move,” Mr. Solovey said. “The goal is to demonstrate the superiority of the Russian political system, in which major decisions can be made swiftly and effectively. From the Russian point of view, what happens in Washington these days demonstrates the total inability of the U.S. president to make any decisions that are needed in this situation.”

  40. Carter Eskew has a piece at WaPo about Sen. Burr’s idiotic announcement that the NYT has the burden for producing Comey’s memo of his conversation with drumpf.

    That’s why it was so disappointing to read Burr’s comment yesterday in reaction to the latest reports that Comey may have a bombshell memo accusing the president of something akin to obstruction of justice. Burr said: “I think the burden is on The New York Times, if they’re reporting it and they’ve got somebody who’s got the document. They need to get the document and get it released.” Burr’s comment fails the test. The New York Times doesn’t have subpoena powers to compel document release, but Burr does. He should use it, quietly and judiciously whenever possible. This is your moment, Sen. Burr. People are watching, and democracy is counting on you. Maybe you were just tired and edgy yesterday, as the abyss you face reluctantly got a little deeper. That’s understandable. This whole thing is so ugly and unnecessary and such a product of one destructive man who is unfit for his office. But here we are; and here you are. Rise up.

     
    Indeed.  (And best of luck on that one).

    My response was: “You are exactly correct. Burr has subpoena power – the NYT not only has no such power, but why would they have the responsibility to produce a memo that folks close to Comey who have seen the memo did not provide to it? Hard to believe, but at least Jason Chaffetz has sent a letter to DoJ demanding that memo and the others that Comey may have related to his contacts with trump. It may not last, but for a moment at least Chaffetz appears to have grown a spine while Burr appears to have lost his.”

  41. Hi, Pat,

    I wrote pissant, but spellcheck added a U.  I mean, would I ever call the deadbeat pussy groper puissant ?

    Not on your life.

     

  42. patd, putin puppet – I like it.

    I’m not sure the use of pissant indicates anything scholarly.

  43. Sarah Posner’s piece at WaPo about donnie’s upcoming speech to the Islamic folks in Ridyah has this nugget in it:

    H.R. McMaster, who is also helping to write the speech*, told reporters that it will be “an inspiring but direct speech on the need to confront radical ideology and the president’s hopes for a peaceful vision of Islam to dominate across the world.” McMaster further promised that the speech will “unite the broader Muslim world against common enemies of all civilization” and “demonstrate America’s commitment to our Muslim partners.”

    * Along with Stephen F@cking Miller – (It’s not a Muslim ban, just a ban on people from Muslim countries, except Coptic Christians).

    So, really, try to wrap your mind around Donald Drumpf chief promoter of the Muslim ban trying to unite the broader Muslim world with a speech written by the architect of the Muslim ban.

  44. PINO -President In Name Only (not short for Pino Grigio, although that might help)

  45. A person benefiting from the idiocy of the floater is Pvt. Chelsea Manning.  All the haters are stuck in the background, their voices drowned by the tremendous noise of the idiot.  She has had to endure the hate of the military, forced to live in a male prison.  Suffering through the hate of so many.  Although extremely naive, she has served more time for a crime which others serve less who did the same or worse, she is wizened by the hell of confinement.

    I do not support or affirm her release of material, I do support her release for time served.  Again, a longer sentence than others have received for worse conduct.

    I also look forward to meeting a sister veteran.

     

  46. So Robert Mueller is appointed special counsel over the Russia mess. Rosenstein is still hedging his bets. Dick.

  47. Maybe the deadbeat pussy grabber could gain asylum in saudi Arabia, and then fly to Moscow to join snowden, and eventually, kim philby’s gang.
    Dosvedanya, komrad drumpfieff

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