An Immigration Story!

Democratic presidential candidate, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton campaigns on Monday, Feb. 29, 2016 at the Lyman and Merrie Wood Museum of Springfield History in Springfield, Mass.

By GrannyMumanToog, a Trail Mix Contributor

This is Luis. On Friday, January 27, 2017 he’ll be 21 years old. He came to this country when he was 2 from the land of his birth, Mexico. He’s undocumented. His mother was a young widow with no chance for a future for herself and her son so like many thousands of others, she came to America seeking a better life. When her temp visa expired she began her life as an illegal immigrant.

She worked hard to provide a good life for Luis. At one point, the parents of her deceased husband asked her to send him back to Mexico for a vacation. They said they would pay for and arrange it. It seemed harmless, so she sent him. I don’t know how the arrangements were made, but once he was there they refused to send him back. His mother, in desperation, went back to Mexico and retrieved him. She then had to get across the border again. She tells a story about one of her crossings when she fell into the river and nearly drowned, like it’s about someone else. But she and Luis made it back to the U.S. and she moved to another state and started over.

There are jobs for illegal immigrants. All you have to do is be willing to work like a slave for people who don’t care about bending the law. She worked in a tourist heavy city at a Mexican restaurant. She worked 12-14 hour days, 6 days a week. She was very good and made excellent tips, which was her pay! But this is how she gave her son everything she could, including living in a nice apartment, in a good neighborhood. One of her brothers watched Luis when she worked. When she wasn’t at work, she devoted all of her time to her son.

After the death of her husband, she never thought she would remarry but she met a young man who ate at her restaurant. She spoke almost no English and he didn’t speak Spanish, but it was one of those “Their eyes met…” kind of things. Eventually, when Luis was 8 or 9 they were married. Most people think that if you marry an American you’re automatically a citizen. Maybe it was that way once, but not now.

After about a year they had a son, and Luis was thrilled to have a baby brother. They had gotten hooked up with an immigration lawyer but before anything could proceed the husband had to fix some problematic tax issues and he hired a friend of a friend who was supposed to know what he was doing, to work on it. After over a year and thousands of dollars, it was clear that he was not going to be of any help. Eventually the tax issue was resolved and then they had to spend a few thousand more dollars just to get her officially registered with immigration and put on a very long waiting list to even have her status looked into. Then the recession hit and they lost everything. So Luis and his mother, his new father and baby brother started over again.

Luis is an amazing young man. He’s never been in any trouble, got good grades in school and played football like your average American boy. He doesn’t smoke, drink or use drugs. Thanks to some immigration reforms by President Obama, he was able to get a drivers license and legally work, so he got an after school job when he was about 17. He did so well in high school that he graduated with one of the best scholarships his state offers to pay for college tuition. When he applied at his local community college, he discovered that his undocumented status meant that he couldn’t use the scholarship. He’s been paying his own way through school ever since, a few classes at a time. He also works full time and is now a supervisor at the company he went to work for in high school.

He’s very interested in politics and business. He followed this election closely and even got his little brother, and now little sister, involved in discussions. But of course, he couldn’t vote.

These are the people Donald Trump wants to round up. These are the people Donald Trump wants to keep out. These are the people Donald Trump calls criminals, rapists, terrorists and thieves. If he builds his wall, who will take all the menial, low paying jobs and work slave hours to make some rich person richer? These are the stories that nobody knows about, unless they take the trouble to find out!

I highly recommend a movie called Under the Same Moon. It came out in ’08 and it’s a beautiful story of an undocumented mother and her son. The story is told from both their points of view. The little boy is amazing. If you want to learn about it you can check IMDB here.

Funny but true: When the movie came out, Luis bought his mother the DVD for Christmas. On Christmas morning, when he opened his presents, he found the same DVD from his mother to him.

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70 thoughts on “An Immigration Story!”

  1. Holy Contract Labor!  Non-citizens are chattel to trump and well, so dirty and disgusting.   The border wall is causing severe angst here on the border where we have a wall, thank you and a bigger wall will not do a damn thing for the decent humans, like Luis, who area already here.  I can hear the hinges squeak on the US of AA closing its doors and just like Obama increased the very gun sales he was trying to stop?  trump will create more immigrants except Mexico is sick of taking our criminals, rapists and thieves.   China is a now a romantic suitor of Latin America and I can get my cheap stuff from Mexico now rather than Wallyworld.

    Expect a police state in the next years.   trump is treating the world like a Risk boardgame and that means Irkutsk is in play again.

    Nice post, GM.

     

  2. spicer’s lack of fashion sense and the death of MTM has caused me to wonder if trumpence could create a hologram of Ted Baxter to be press sec.   Otherwise, trump should put spicer in a pussy bow while at the podium.  It is the best fashion advice I can give!

  3. granny, wonderful story. thank you.

     

    travisc, welcome aboard. you ended your debut with “a lover of CAKE, tacos, and cats. Be gentle.”

    gentle shmentle,  anyone who lives with and still loves cats can take any attack imaginable out there.

  4. One last thought before the sun rises here…trump is creating a new societal class system.  Long gone is the romantic thought of the middle class of the baby boomers along with the titles of ‘working class’ or ‘elites’.  Now there is the ‘supporter class’ and ‘hillary lovers’ (perceived as ugly, American women).   Your worth as an American is in the class in which you reside.   You are either a supporter or not.

    trump’s claim of voter fraud?  Remember those state voter rolls that were hacked by the ruskies?  Evidence for the trump campaign to prove fraud in case he lost.  There was fraud, but by trumpence and it is easy to hack a few counties in swing states and leave no trail of hacking.  Easy to to with fobs, etc.  One day we should allow online voting…it could be more secure than watching thousands of machines.  Meanwhile, trump cannot turn his back on this evidence he was going to use anyway in case he was unsuccessful in winning the electoral college…or otherwise known in tech circles as voter cherry picking by kushners komputer kids  (kkk).

    It is very upsetting to have a mental disorder like trumps thrust upon the public…’sad’ as in trumps fav tweet ending, period.

  5. the hill:

    Paul’s plan comes the same week that two other Republican senators, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana and Susan Collins of Maine, introduced a different ObamaCare replacement, also with the hope of spurring their party to move forward on an alternative in addition to repealing the Affordable Care Act. That plan was more centrist, keeping ObamaCare’s taxes and letting states choose to keep the existing healthcare law if they wanted.

    Paul’s plan includes a tax credit of up to $5,000 per person to use as part of a Health Savings Account to pay for medical care. That tax credit appears to be larger than those offered in other Republican healthcare plans.

    The plan would abolish many of the central elements of ObamaCare, including the mandate that everyone has coverage. It would eliminate the minimum standards for which health services an insurance plan must cover, which Republicans argue would allow for cheaper, less comprehensive plans.

     

    yeah can get really cheap if by It would eliminate the minimum standards means they can take your money and run.

  6. patd.. thanks for the info, $5,000 is chump change in medical currency.  It might pay for your annual wellness exams, but no money left over for illness.   I think the dems did nail it with “Make America Sick Again.”   In 2013, I commented on the autopsy by repugs and that once they were back in power they would punish us for the Obama years…take away our insurance, keep the women bare footed and pregnant (no Planned Parenthood), punish us for smoking pot and hanging out with the LGBT crowd, immigrants and foreigners.  It is happening and again, I owe the trump supporters and hillary haters.  thank you for saving us from insanity of those nasty Clintons.   There is so much money being wasted by trumpence?  We could pay for an entire, single payer medical system.

  7. GrannyM….   most excellent post!  I think people like Luis appreciate our country and value our educational system more than born Americans.  I’m glad he’s here.

    davidb…   good to see you here.  I can still picture you with that “Even Jesus Hates the Yankees” shirt on…   🙂

    TravisC…   thanks for delurking…  and welcome to the blog.   Another cat lover…..   YES!

  8. As it seems, the floater is descending into his own world, an alternate universe which is a very dark and horrible place, quite different from reality.  He is actually attacking that world in our world and it is not going well.  The guy is quite, to borrow from a headline, Bonkers.  The question is when will the Republicans, big R people vs little r trumpians, take the reins of power away from the loon?

    Something to ponder.  What will happen with the guy finds out nothing really happens with a snap of his fingers?

    There was talk of “rage” when he saw his inauguration was really tiny and the protest really big. What rage will happen when he cannot get his way.  There are limits to what he can do, even in the executive branch.  Will he do a public melt down?  The clips from his interview last night show a man quite literally off in his own universe.  He had no clue what was really going on.

    It will be up to someone with power in the R group to go over and sit in one of the back rooms of the WH and have the “we have a new WH for you that is bigger than this little place.  It has a big desk just for you” talk and lead him to the limo and a ride up to Bethesda and a nice padded room.

  9. I’m going to have to narrow my reasons to attack Trump or I won’t have a life.  The man is decidedly a deeply injured soul who only feels human when being constantly petted by others.  As a result his actions are all motivated from a deep need for approval from a fawning crowd.  He doesn’t read and gets virtually all information from TV and hangers on.  This makes him the natural victim of the right wing nut jobs from places such as Faux Spews, National Enquirer, Breitbart, Drudge and every conspiracy story that comes down the pike.

    So what are the biggies for me.  (I’ll know they will be different for others, so you get to fight those fights.)

    Environment (Destroy that and it’s adios for all of us)
    Voter Suppression (If we don’t take back state houses in 2018, gerrymandering after 2020 census could destroy fair elections for the foreseeable future)
    Torn between Health Care & Immigration.  Have to think about this

    Given the GOP Congress in need of a willing signer for all their idiocy, I don’t hold out hope for an impeachment, but it could well be that his mental problems mean Trump is doing too much global damage and a 25th Amendment solution might be necessary.

     

     

  10. trumps tweet on Chelsea Manning — More

    Ungrateful TRAITOR Chelsea Manning, who should never have been released from prison, is now calling President Obama a weak leader. Terrible!

    Solitary confinement is one of the cruelest forms of punishment and Manning’s remark about Obama does show some introspection into the course of Obama’s presidency.  Obama was humane in commuting Manning’s sentence for eventual release in May.  Not much different than Bergdahl and the prisoner exchange.  Both military footballs from our warrior past.  trump is living in the past as his future is so dark…unlike Obama where the future was so bright?  We all needed sunglasses.

  11. bw, had a momentary vision of Dracula when you prefaced your comment with One last thought before the sun rises here.   that last thought made a lot of sense to me.  thoroughly agree with you that

    There was fraud, but by trumpence and it is easy to hack a few counties in swing states and leave no trail of hacking.  Easy to to with fobs, etc. …… trump cannot turn his back on this evidence he was going to use anyway in case he was unsuccessful in winning the electoral college…or otherwise know in tech circles as voter cherry picking by kushners komputer kids  (kkk).

    bet if a study could be done looking back at his statements made in the campaign of various charges of lies,  rigging polls, crimes, cheating etc one would find that very same day a story about to be released of him doing that which he charged others of.   ironically he alerted us to his own behavior (but the media failed to fully cover these exposures).  perhaps this is a compulsion on his part, a self-imposed mea culpa form of confessional to cleanse himself of his own sins.

  12. “…calling Obama weak. terrible”

    if I remember correctly, the dts called him stupid, ignorant, incompetent, worse president ever and a few other derogatory things…   even maybe weak, but not sure.

  13. trump brings applause humans and maybe even a laugh track to all of his publicity stunts.   He needs adulation and applause, constantly.  We are all paying for this!  Again, thank you trump supporters and hillary haters, now it is all about trump so we do not see he is robbing us blind while we watch his publicity stunt antics.  Magic and treachery…mirrors (mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest prez of all?) and smoke (once the smokestacks are built and emitting poisonous gasses into our breathing space).

    BTW, a science march is planned…pussyhats welcome.

  14. patd…usually criminals leave a clue, brag about their crime…trump and family are no different plus trump he has a big, unfiltered mouth.

  15. bw, thanks for that link on canned applause.  had a sneaky suspicion this was the case:

    the Trump team supposedly brought along a contingent of dozens loyal supporters who were seated in the first few rows to cheer his remarks — but the CIA’s workforce supposedly didn’t share in that cheering

    no doubt there were many stunned spook staffers and no doubt tho’ts of 25th amdt danced in their heads if not worse.

  16. Sadly, I believe there is fraud and vote rigging in all of our prez elections, but most humans still believe in the majority rule.  The electoral college used to match the popular vote in most elections of the past.  nixon claimed to be a victim of voter fraud in 1960 and decided to go full frontal on fraud in ’68 and ’72.  reagan was a cheater, too, in debategate  — famous thieves of the repug party.  For me?  Anything repug is a detriment to education and birth control….two important things in a woman’s life.

  17. Thanks Pat! I’ve just decided that “I can’t even!” with Trump. As Julia recently said to me, “Man…we are so (blanked), aren’t we?” I replied, “Yep.”

  18. business casual mitch announces Hilllary and schumer wanted a single payer system health care system and the repug populist mandate implores them to destroy obamacare.   dooming citizens every step of the way…throwing shade and establishing nuclear winter on the population.  To me the wrong party is in power…I feel like I have been fighting them my entire adult life and like a nightmare….they have forced their way onto the American people….political rape.

  19. David, It was nice seeing your comment in the last thread. I wish you would come around more often. Tell us, what about Craig really irritates you 🙂

  20. Welcome Travis

    I too like tacos another reason to be sad Clinton lost… I was looking forward to a taco truck on every corner

    I am partial to carnitas but  any pork product is fine with me..green chili…yum

  21. Great post Granny.

    Sonoma County is home to many undocumented folks.  It will be my friends and neighbors as well as people who work with me at the farmers market.   Their lives are here and they are as much a part of this community as any resident.  It would be a terrible blow to this county – if pres. Pussy Grabber goes ahead with his plans.

  22. For those who may have only seen the Women’s March anthem, here is the original by MILCK

    and as performed at the March

     

  23. interesting that olbermann’s  gq viewers average one million six hundred thousand now per commentary.  see around  7 minutes in at the above comment where he says this is more than what several of the other “news” shows enjoy.

    now that might be a thrown gauntlet across you know who’s face.  competition who has the bigger… audience.

    btw, sure hope media can cool down from attributing stock market record high to dts.  just makes his ego grow bigger and bigger.

  24. mashable: Private e-mails are back! But this time Hillary Clinton’s not involved.

    but kellyanne, jared, sean, steve and the big you-know-who are.  a tweeter asked: “when do hearings start?”

  25. If I Were Mayor de Blasio I would respond to Mr Trump’s move to cut-off federal funding to his city because it is a ‘sanctuary’ city by slicing all special police protections provided his Trump hotel residence. If Mr Trump demands to know why, it is because the citizens of NYC are providing their share of the funding to provide for the totally adequate housing facility in DC and the security that drapes said facility. He should move himself and his family forthwith to that facility aka the White House.

  26. Granny – Great story. I’ve been wondering lately if the difference between “us” and “them” boils down to this…”we” care about people while “they” don’t. I could describe that thought as simplistic, naïve, and without nuance, but sometimes it sure does ring true with these kinds of stories as evidence.
    Patd – But if you’re gentle with me, at least to start, I could be tempted into sharing my CAKE with you.
    RR – Cats have the innate power to let you know how ridiculous and unnecessary you might actually be in the grand scheme. After all, if they had thumbs they would open their own tuna cans.
    Jamie – I’m with you on narrowing the focus of my outrage. I could be outraged every day, and then paralyzed against taking any action. The one huge issue for me is equality of rights for marginalized groups. That’s followed by voter suppression and environment. And thanks for the plug on the old blog. Not sure if I’ll resurrect it or in what form if I do.
    Corey – You’ve got a great delivery. That helps me get it, because my snark meter malfunctions quite regularly.
    Craig – Thank you Sir! Wish I could take credit for delurk, but I’ve seen it around.
    Flatus – Time, motivation, and energy. I remember when I had more of those things. I might be on the rebound, so we’ll see. Thanks for the welcome.
    KGC – I’m a taco fiend from way back. Nothing too fancy…just a little slightly seasoned beef, some cheese, a bit of tomato, and a little sour cream. Yum.
     
    Thanks to all for the warm reception. Gotta get some work done now. Cheers!

  27. If Donald doesn’t build that wall, how will he keep folks from running away from him?  It’s meant to keep us in, right?

    Don needs to pay for the extra security himself if he wants to commute home on the weekends, too.

    Considering he hasn’t even been in office a full week, waiting until day 99 for another march seems like kind of a stretch.

    Welcome TravisC!

  28. Jamie, thanks for the alert. here’s excerpt from wapo:

    The State Department’s entire senior management team just resigned

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s job running the State Department just got considerably more difficult. The entire senior level of management officials resigned Wednesday, part of an ongoing mass exodus of senior foreign service officers who don’t want to stick around for the Trump era.

    Tillerson was actually inside the State Department’s headquarters in Foggy Bottom on Wednesday, taking meetings and getting the lay of the land. I reported Wednesday morning that the Trump team was narrowing its search for his No. 2, and that it was looking to replace the State Department’s long-serving undersecretary for management, Patrick Kennedy. Kennedy, who has been in that job for nine years, was actively involved in the transition and was angling to keep that job under Tillerson, three State Department officials told me.
    Then suddenly on Wednesday afternoon, Kennedy and three of his top officials resigned unexpectedly, four State Department officials confirmed. Assistant Secretary of State for Administration Joyce Anne Barr, Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Ambassador Gentry O. Smith, director of the Office of Foreign Missions, followed him out the door. All are career foreign service officers who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

    Kennedy will retire from the foreign service at the end of the month, officials said. The other officials could be given assignments elsewhere in the foreign service.

    In addition, Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security Gregory Starr retired Jan. 20, and the director of the Bureau of Overseas Building Operations, Lydia Muniz, departed the same day. That amounts to a near-complete housecleaning of all the senior officials that deal with managing the State Department, its overseas posts and its people.

    “It’s the single biggest simultaneous departure of institutional memory that anyone can remember, and that’s incredibly difficult to replicate,” said David Wade, who served as State Department chief of staff under Secretary of State John Kerry. “Department expertise in security, management, administrative and consular positions in particular are very difficult to replicate and particularly difficult to find in the private sector.”

     

  29. Thanks Flatus but I just got back from our Soviet Safeway, spaghetti with home made sauce tonight

  30. also at wapo:
    Scientists create a part-human, part-pig embryo — raising the possibility of interspecies organ transplants

    For the first time, scientists have grown an embryo that is part-pig, part-human.

    The experiment, described Thursday in the journal Cell, involves injecting human stem cells into the embryo of a pig, then implanting the embryo in the uterus of a sow and allowing it to grow. After four weeks, the stem cells had developed into the precursors of various tissue types, including heart, liver and neurons, and a small fraction of the developing pig was made up of human cells.

    The human-pig hybrid — dubbed a “chimera” for the mythical creature with a lion’s head, a goat’s body and a serpent’s tail — was “highly inefficient,” the researchers cautioned. But it’s the most successful human-animal chimera and a significant step toward the development of animal embryos with functioning human organs.

     

    okay, smart alecks, I know what you’re thinking; but no, that hasn’t been done before and it isn’t you-know-who.

  31. This sort of hybridization was anticipated by Cordwainer Smith. I recommend his SF novel Norstrilia.

  32. HEY ! DaveB, don’t go away. We don’t get to read your  comments nearly as often as we’d like to. Poke your way in more often this year.

  33. re pig-human hybrid, if successfully implanted and allowed to develop, this has the makings of an interesting debate question for the pro-life adherents.

  34. It strikes as being inevitable that at some point sentient pigs will be laid in a manger. Wise men and women will mimic whirling dervishes as they shriek:
    “What has God wrought?”

  35. ny times:
    Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Says Media Should ‘Keep Its Mouth Shut’
    On the telephone, Mr. Bannon spoke in blunt but calm tones, peppered with a dose of profanities, and humorously referred to himself at one point as “Darth Vader.” He said, with ironic relish, that Mr. Trump was elected by a surge of support from “the working class hobbits and deplorables.”
    The conversation was initiated by Mr. Bannon to offer praise for Mr. Spicer, who has been criticized this week for making false claims at the White House podium about the attendance of Mr. Trump’s inaugural crowd, for calling reporters dishonest and lecturing them about what stories to write and for failing to disavow Mr. Trump’s lie about widespread voter fraud in the election.
    Asked if he was concerned that Mr. Spicer had lost credibility with the news media, Mr. Bannon chortled. “Are you kidding me?” he said. “We think that’s a badge of honor. ‘Questioning his integrity’ — are you kidding me? The media has zero integrity, zero intelligence, and no hard work.”
    “You’re the opposition party,” Mr. Bannon said. “Not the Democratic Party. You’re the opposition party. The media’s the opposition party.”

  36. also at ny times:

    Felony Charges for Journalists Arrested at Inauguration Protests Raise Fears for Press Freedom
    At least six journalists were charged with felony rioting after they were arrested while covering the violent protests that took place just blocks from President Trump’s inauguration parade in Washington on Friday, according to police reports and court documents.
    The journalists were among 230 people detained in the anti-Trump demonstrations, during which protesters smashed the glass of commercial buildings and lit a limousine on fire.
    The charges against the journalists — Evan Engel, Alexander Rubinstein, Jack Keller, Matthew Hopard, Shay Horse and Aaron Cantu — have been denounced by organizations dedicated to press freedom. All of those arrested have denied participating in the violence.
    “These felony charges are bizarre and essentially unheard of when it comes to journalists here in America who were simply doing their job,” said Suzanne Nossel, the executive director of Pen America. “They weren’t even in the wrong place at the wrong time. They were in the right place.”

  37. The logic may be a bit strained, but here goes.  To force Mexico to pay for a wall it did not order there will be a 20% tax added to goods entering the U.S.  So, 20% is added to whatever is purchased from Mexico that Americans will have to pay for the goods.  A few goods are autos and auto parts.  Some parts are shipped to Mexico for building into autos, or for partial build and returned to the U.S.  Other parts maybe electronics.  The world of manufacturing is based on parts and construction or build in one or more countries.

    So an electronic board is built of parts created in many countries.  Some parts maybe be built in one or more countries.  A board or part may go country to country to country for parts or work added then returned to the first country for more work.  And, after several trips for parts and build it could be put into another electronic product or a larger part, like a car.  Which itself maybe the final result of multiple countries.

     

  38. Walmart prices will skyrocket

    Mexican Coca Cola will be through the roof

    Margaritaville might be foreclosed

  39. Thank you all for the kind thoughts!

    Dave & Travis: I’m always a day late and a dollar short but WELCOME or WELCOME BACK!

    BB: Alternate universe indeed! He had a giant photoshopped image of his inauguration created that he, supposedly, is hanging in the WH! If it’s true (he tweeted it so it must be gospel) it should be proof positive that the man is beyond narcissistic, he’s delusional and someone really needs to step up and relieve him of his duties! The white padded room would be a great start!

    Blonde Wino: I lost what little respect I still had for him when he supported trump. Of course after seeing his latest little rant, it makes sense. He also is incapable of stringing 2 coherent sentences together or knowing what he’s talking about! #Loser

    Corey: Perfect summation of the first 6 days for many of us. Thanks!

    Jamie: I have trouble thinking about narrowing my outrage. Me and mine will be directly affected by so many of his plans. The man is just all around evil, how do I channel that!?!

    Pat: You know I love my Keith 😉 …trump and his press ass lickers will have conniption fits when they see those numbers. Expect another week of whining about numbers now-Keith’s claiminauguration crowdpopular vote countCIA crowd plants. Well at least that will keep him away from the nukes! PS: Are; you sure he isn’t a hybrid?

     

     

  40. Thank you for reminding me what America is about, Granny. Stories. The people who inhabit its stories. The past several months have thrown a shroud over that.

    Hi, TravisC. Good to have another delurker.

    When I first began working in a newsroom, Mary Richards was my example of how to act and dress. Most days, I walked to and from work. Unlike Mary, I had no car, so my clothing had to be comfortable and take a beating. I wore tailored blouses with bows, vests, and slacks most of the time. Sometimes dresses in the Diane Von Furstenberg style. Mary was my guiding light, because I couldn’t dress like Woodward or Bernstein. Just wish I’d had a boss like Lou Grant.

    Mary Tyler Moore was perfect. Never have I read a bad word about her. Dick Van Dyke must be grief-stricken.

    On the topic of newsrooms and journalists, I see Bannon reared his  addled head. The man’s a lout. But I also found this piece by Jay Rosen, who delves into what this White House is about and how journalists must approach it. Chilling piece. What do you think? Is journalism not incredibly fun under Trump? Send the interns to the White House briefings and use them as cannon fodder while the veterans handle the corruption that’s taking place elsewhere.

    Send the interns

  41. If the price of produce goes up, maybe folks will stop with those useless, water-guzzling lawns & start vegetable gardens.

  42. BiB, Trump already distancing himself from 20 percent tax on Mexican imports. Now it’s a tax on people who GO to Mexico.

    Soon to be replaced with something else entirely.

     

  43. mrd’dog – That press link thing keeps popping up an authentication box here & there as I read comments. Weird.

    My company fired our manufacturing department & moved those jobs to Mexico about 10 years ago.  I wonder if they will impact us as product is shipped back to the US for distribution?

    Ross Perot was right. Clinton’s NAFTA sucked jobs out of the US. I wish I hadn’t voted for Bill Clinton.

    A physical wall is silly, but we should allow border patrol to do their jobs, require employers to follow hiring/documentation laws, and, anyone who wants to come here needs to so legally.  People are welcome, but the welcome mat is at the front door. The end.

  44. I wondered the same thing, Blue. Parts that we assemble are brought over from the places we own in Mexico.

  45. Is pressthink a new thing?

    so the buzz is Nieto 1 Drumpf O. Sounds right. And all the top career diplomats at State are canned? To be replaced by drumpfian dipshits?  Sorry to say it. Frigging moron. WTF have we done?

  46. The a$$hole thinks MX will pay for the wall by putting a 20% tax on incoming products? And German, Chinese, Indonesian…?  So his shitty ties will cost $120 instead of $100?  Exactly how are Mexico, Germany, China, Indonesia, etc. paying for anything? God damn what an idiot. 

  47. Think your wintertime tomatoes, melons, avocados, and lettuce are expensive now ? That 20c tax on a couple tomatoes shipped to your store generates a 40c jump in their sale price.

    Are we starting a trade war because he wanted his name on a gambling den/golf course in Cancun ?

    I mean, WTF???

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